E-Turbo ..my new invention....

[Bertrand]

Yep the torch route is deffo the biggest rip off i have seen in years but people seem to be rather blind to it!

Costs around USD 150.

Estimate of parts costs:

torch 16
atomizerx2 20
batteries 5
charger 5
aluminium, etc 5
ecig battery 15
fluid 5
carts 5
switch 3
SUBTOTAL 79
(plus shipping)

So with shipping that leaves less than USD60 labour.

How little is your time worth, even if you do have the skills and tools on hand?

Besides, you're rewarding innovation, and not just stealing the design.

 

[TropicalBob]

Oooo, let's not go this route. Trog himself has said here that a fair price is what the market will pay. Ebay established that price in the most democratic fashion -- bidding. Let Trog get his due as buyers see fit.

 

[sixstring]

Oooo, let's not go this route. Trog himself has said here that a fair price is what the market will pay. Ebay established that price in the most democratic fashion -- bidding. Let Trog get his due as buyers see fit.

Amen. it's about perceived value and whatever the market will bear.

In the USA, there's gonna be a certain chic value to owning something "made in england" - regardless of where most of the parts are sourced from. Plus, from all indications it just works better - sort of like Marshall amps for us guitar playing types.

 

[ted26]

Costs around USD 150.

Estimate of parts costs:

torch 16
atomizerx2 20
batteries 5
charger 5
aluminium, etc 5
ecig battery 15
fluid 5
carts 5
switch 3
SUBTOTAL 79
(plus shipping)

So with shipping that leaves less than USD60 labour.

How little is your time worth, even if you do have the skills and tools on hand?

Besides, you're rewarding innovation, and not just stealing the design.

my statement was hasty and wrong the "torch" is a good product and it isn't for me to state on its value.....

My mouth sometimes leads my brain

 

[Kate]

If people will pay the price then it's reasonably priced for them. $150 has not been a problem mentioned in any of the reviews so far.

If your product does what you say Dr Loi you could charge us a lot more than $60, it would be well worth it from your description. If I were you I'd go for quality rather than quantity, make sure it works well and is put together properly and charge a lot for it. Don't try to pump out loads of inferior cheaper models that will break easily, there's already loads of that sort of stuff on the market.

 

[Bertrand]

Having only used it this morning, I will vouch for it anyway. As others have mentioned, it's well thought out, provides plenty of vapour, doesn't look like a cigarette, has done away with the totally underpowered battery issue, etc. Anyway, I didn't intend to hijack this thread; I just wanted to correct the perception that it's particularly expensive.

 

[SMILIN]

I agree with Kate, quality vs quantity, we esmokers NEED quality devices, that work, plain, and simple. I would love the 1st production model, since I am not a trial member.

Godspeed, my friend.

 

[Fedor]

Ah did i ruffle your feathers. And you think i should grow up he he,
if you had not noticed before we all share opinions on here and thats what mine is, sorry you dont like it but just look at the comments on here.....you seem to be a minority.
The price is fine but you wont be needing one of Doc' gizmo's seeing how your batteries and atomisers last so long. As for sarcasm!!!! read between the lines if you wish.

Like you i stated my opinion....nuff said.

Opinions and taking a shot at the opinions of others has a difference. You were the one who did not like my opinion and not the other way round. I know I am a minority but how much lesser am i entitled to give an opinion because of that? If everyone just says the same thing, whats the point of a forum? Suddenly you decide if i need the e-turbo or not? I buy many things that i feel is overpriced. Its my decision and mine alone. I'm cool with the good doc as I'm sure he is with me. You still need to grow up. Nuff said from me too.

 

[edisme518123]

Come on kids, let's stop our bickering...

BTW Fedor... don't you think it may be just a tad offensive to be asking for a lower price considering that the doc isn't going to obtain any profit out of this. All of the proceeds will be going into his furthered research and the benefit of underprivileged workers in his area. I find it especially offensive that you are already asking for a lowered price without even a complete knowledge of the product. You have no idea what it costs to manufacture this product, nor do you know even what the finished product will look like or the state of it's build quality.

Think of it this way: All of the money you send out goes directly to a charitable cause in which will directly benefit yourself in the future... and you get a cool gadget for your donation. Does that make it seem more worth the price to you?

There's also a difference between a statement and an opinion:
Statement: The price is too high.
Opinion: I believe that the price is too high.

It may be your opinion that in your belief the price is too high but that by no means would warrant the doc to lower the price. It simply will mean that you will not get to own one. Discussion ended.

 

[jimldk]

how long is the cable going to be in the production model doc...and will it be retractable or would that be unfeasible?

Finalising on that length issue..I actually tailor made each one for my trial subjects here...and the retractable type is already on the way...problems with the wires though..too thin , can burn out...

I still don't understand how a battery pack, no matter how sophisticated, can revive a dead atomizer can someone enlighten me please

Hi eyespy,..It can revive poor performing atomiser but dead ones only some after using the diagnostic feature (accidental discovery) on the E-turbo can be revived, the real dead ones stays dead,sorry..still finding a way to repair the atomisers...if there is a will, there is a way...

great jimldk! its getting close to the final! did you also think about adapter to fix atomizer directly? avoiding the cable ;-)

Working on that model now but it will be cylindrical like Troq Screwdriver but with multiadaptors built in...wait for that Ok?..gots lots of Experiment going on now....


And finally to all my dear dear forummers, please don't quarrel/fight ....it saddens me too...I want this to be good to all and I also wants the price to be reasonable for all...not beyond the reach of most people...please bear with me and each other, all your inputs are valuable to me and I really take it all in....with all my heart and I wish all the goodness that can be derived from this project will pass to all of you ......you all will be able to help a lot of people out there and this forum has already done so to a lot of people around the world.

Peace to all my e-smokers brothers and sisters of this forum...

 

[Fedor]

Come on kids, let's stop our bickering...

BTW Fedor... don't you think it may be just a tad offensive to be asking for a lower price considering that the doc isn't going to obtain any profit out of this. All of the proceeds will be going into his furthered research and the benefit of underprivileged workers in his area. I find it especially offensive that you are already asking for a lowered price without even a complete knowledge of the product. You have no idea what it costs to manufacture this product, nor do you know even what the finished product will look like or the state of it's build quality.

Think of it this way: All of the money you send out goes directly to a charitable cause in which will directly benefit yourself in the future... and you get a cool gadget for your donation. Does that make it seem more worth the price to you?

There's also a difference between a statement and an opinion:
Statement: The price is too high.
Opinion: I believe that the price is too high.

It may be your opinion that in your belief the price is too high but that by no means would warrant the doc to lower the price. It simply will mean that you will not get to own one. Discussion ended.

I thought u said to stop the bickering? Why and how did i offend you? I gave my "opinion" and the doc was ok with it and even gave an explanation that it could be lowered and it was a good piece of info for me. Read what i said carefully. I said " I think the price is to high" so it is an opinion. When i asked for a discount, i already said it was partially a joke. Again, read what i actually said before making statements like this.

Not that it is of any relevance to what the central issue is about but the doc never mentioned that he is not gonna make any profit at all. He is pledging some of the funds and part of it will fund his research. Don't you read anything? Of course, its perfectly normal to make profits and this is just to correct what you said and not to take anything away from the doc.

By all means, convince me that the price is reasonable. With all the comments floating around...I'm slowly beginning to be convinced. Why do you feel the need to be offended and to hammer me?

Why should the doc be warranted to lower the price just because of my opinion? That was never what i meant. I only posted about 10 words with a big LOL at the end of it. You are interpreting it like the da vinci code....

Again, what makes you think you get to decide if i get to own one? I did not see the doc get offended. I did not see him banning me from purchasing. The doc and i had some very enjoyable (at least for me) conversations in the past and i've even decided to visit him the next time i'm in Malaysia.

Sorry, doc....don't mean to go off topic on your thread....

 

[jimldk]

Fedor, Edisme.......I am not in any way offended by what fedor jokingly requested...I know fedor well enough.......I am very pleased to see all of you putting your valuable thoughts for all to read and greatly appreciated all your ideas and thoughts......

put the squabbles to rest..and Fedor , you don't need to apologise to me...you did no harm....and please do drop by Malaysia....I will gladly receive all of you with open arms...

OK guys ..peace huh?....you all did not realised that you have been doing charity all this time in this great forum..your ideas and replies and posting invaluable info for all the users around the world....It's the thoughts that count as they say.....I thank you all.....NOW, I gotta to do the video....keep putting that off due to heavy work schedule....

Cheers......

 

[tribalmasters]

Hi Doc! Pleeease don't take away the wire option, I like it just the way it is!! It will be lightweight for use in front of the computer!!

 

[jimldk]

Hi Doc! Pleeease don't take away the wire option, I like it just the way it is!! It will be lightweight for use in front of the computer!!

There are many options to choose Tribalmaster(only colors choice is somehow still limited to ease production cost)..wires will still be there..I still have not show the full range of accessories yet...wired or not wired ...many choices for varied taste as you can say...I will post later pics of new "jack" version of atomisers....and of course retractable cables too for some..

 

[jimldk]

The shorter direct jacks for penstyle and mini(Npro) and retractable cable type (still under experimental stage...wires too thin , does not transmitted enough power to the jacked atomisers).....any more ideas guys/gals??

 

[nicowolf]

Dr. Loi,

Your device is really an inspiration. The cost sounds fair for the aggravation you have dealt with and the aggravation you are saving us. This device seems like a prosthesis for the crippled atomizer and the overwrought muscles of the batteries. For this I am truly grateful.

Let me know when you have finished this project as I have great ideas for an atomizer rebuild - you've done such a wonderful job with our power problems. I am thinking something along the lines of a vapor-powered motorcycle that I can ride to work as I get my nic fix from the exhaust fumes. Or maybe a miniaturized IV rig to steadily drip liquid onto our revived atomizers. You have inspired the dreamer in me. Now I want it all.

 

[cucurucho]

Looks like some very nice work there, Dr Loi. And sounds like a very reasonable price.

Are you making an adapter for the Gamucci Micro atomiser? I think that's what I e-gar is a rebrand of. Although I doubt that my e-gar's atomiser will still be working by the time your remarkable invention is ready, and I will hopefully have bought a 901b or Kissbox by then.

Do you have a mailing list for notifying people when the e-turbo will be available to purchase?

 

[jimldk]

Dr. Loi,

Your device is really an inspiration. The cost sounds fair for the aggravation you have dealt with and the aggravation you are saving us. This device seems like a prosthesis for the crippled atomizer and the overwrought muscles of the batteries. For this I am truly grateful.

Let me know when you have finished this project as I have great ideas for an atomizer rebuild - you've done such a wonderful job with our power problems. I am thinking something along the lines of a vapor-powered motorcycle that I can ride to work as I get my nic fix from the exhaust fumes. Or maybe a miniaturized IV rig to steadily drip liquid onto our revived atomizers. You have inspired the dreamer in me. Now I want it all.

Hi nicowolf,....hehe, you got some crazy idea but I have already have rebuilt atomiser(still primitive though) like an upside down/dip-in atomiser instead of our drip-on type of atomiser...problems only with the containment though..perhaps we can share the design....???

Thanks anyway for your views and support...still long way to go..and don't stop dreaming bud...our dreams makes us humans after all...

Looks like some very nice work there, Dr Loi. And sounds like a very reasonable price.

Are you making an adapter for the Gamucci Micro atomiser? I think that's what I e-gar is a rebrand of. Although I doubt that my e-gar's atomiser will still be working by the time your remarkable invention is ready, and I will hopefully have bought a 901b or Kissbox by then.

Do you have a mailing list for notifying people when the e-turbo will be available to purchase?

Hi cucurucho...mailing list?...what that?...sorry, not entirely IT savvy...can't even make a video to put up here yet..hope someone can pm me what to do (the video)...

Thanks for your comments.Will look up Gamucci Micro and see whether any sharing connectors available or not...

Leaford also ask for Loong Totem V9..still no samples of those types...buying some soon....I will of course list down types of atomiser compatible with this Co-Device....

Hope patience prevailed and I will update soon,..the week is up and my Beta-Testers will report in by next 2 days....hope for the best.....For the record, I have personally revive back 59 atomiser of penstyle, 34 of Mini/NPro...5 failed confirm dead atomiser and post mortem done on those 5 atomiser are truly dead with main core breakdown...E-Turbo X1 can detect a good or dead atomiser just by connecting to it's adapter..It has a Diagnostic Feature built in....so to save time whether the atomiser worth the time saving or not...neat feature which I really liked..save me tons of time trying to revive them...

 

[jimldk]

Here are pics of E-Turbo X2 wireless..with adapters made for NPRO and Penstyle..as well as DSE 901(not in pic).....a bit bulky at the moment but the ease of use is there...

Hope you all will like it....model casing is open for suggestion...

 

[tribalmasters]

Wow I love the jack design! Great for easy storage of the atomisers! I like the one with the wire best, dunno why it just looks more pleasing