Eastmall's Indulgence Review

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I have had my Indulgence for over a few months now and have not had any issues with it. I have to admit though for what ever reason when I do use it, I prefer the 18350 battery set up over the 18650 set up. I seem to get a harder hit from the 18350, I do use a copper hot spring on both, not the std spring that came with the unit.

Jimi, Where did you get the copper hot spring?
 

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1) No, you can only charge one battery at a time in the supplied charger.
2) Yes they will fit (tightly). I've not tried it - it would fry any of my atomisers. You'd need a pretty high resistance atty (well over 5 ohms I'd say) to make that usable.
3) Anything's possible. I don't know of a simple drop in resistor mod though. 6v with a 4.2 ohm atomiser should work quite nicely though (similar wattage to an LR atty at 3.7v).
 

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I have had one since April or May this year (has been used every day as main PV). It still WORKS fine, but it looks really battered. I did have periods where I thought it was dying off, but normally cleaning it thoroughly seemed to help (I've been spraying contact cleaner into the switch and working it which seemed to help on one occasion). I found the blue 18650 battery supplied with it is not great. Other 18650's seem to perform better (they need to be extended with magnets). The 18350's work fine.

The finish as you can see is not very good. This hasn't been dropped or carried in a pocket with coins, this is just from general (heavy) use. This was a titanium one. Originally the three parts matched but now they are all a different colour. Where the horizontal strips of coating or whatever it is comes off, underneath is a dull grey colour (primer possibly?). But it works, came with a load of bits and pieces and adaptors and for that reason I can't complain too much considering the price paid.

Papa, is your 18650 battery the 3000mah as specified on the Eatmall site? What do you mean about it being not great?
The outter coating, is it a thin layer under a primer paint? Do you think a fine steelwool would clean it up? I wonder whats under the primer? Maybe it can be painted?
I wonder if 2 CR123 (3v) batteries can be used in the 18650 tube with a 5v regulator. Heard that 6v makes the juice taste burned.
 

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Papa, is your 18650 battery the 3000mah as specified on the Eatmall site? What do you mean about it being not great?
The outter coating, is it a thin layer under a primer paint? Do you think a fine steelwool would clean it up? I wonder whats under the primer? Maybe it can be painted?
I wonder if 2 CR123 (3v) batteries can be used in the 18650 tube with a 5v regulator. Heard that 6v makes the juice taste burned.

Yes its that one. I mean it doesn't take long after a charge before it feels like its putting out less power. It also cuts out when using my LR306's, none of the others do. Perhaps I got a bad one? I've had better results with the cheap *fire batteries, and I have a couple of higher performance IMR batteries coming soon.

Yes maybe one day I'll try and take the coating off. Yes you can use 2 x RCR123's in the 18650 tube, although you will need to extend them or use a longer spring (I've got some 'rare earth magnets' which are useful battery extenders)
 

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I received a kit that iVape.net put together for use with the 18650 battery for the great price of $49.95. They call it the "Swap Top" The iVape "Swap Top" | MODS | iVAPE

What's included:

18650 Battery sleeve (can also house 2x rcr123a / 16340 / or 18350)
Manual tactile switch
4x adapters for various types of atomizer/cartomizer combos
1/4" Magnetic battery spacer for optimal performance and connections.

I'm going to order the Copper Spring from AltSmoke. I am using TrustFire 2400mah batteries that were recommended in the mod battery forum as being the better 18650.
When dripping: The strange thing is that using the same atty and eJuice on the Indulgence V2 it creates far less vapor than my eGo. The 18650 is a true 3.7v and the eGo is 3.4volts. To produce more vapor on the V2, I have to trigger it for several seconds as opposed to the 3 seconds with the eGo.
It's a nice looking device and for 49 bucks a great deal. I'm going to try out some LR's on it. That's where the advantage lies. A 3.7volt battery can handle the LR's. The 3.4v will perform well in vapor production but the battery is taking a beating.
 

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It should perform at least as well as the eGo. Someone else posted about getting improved performance by cleaning up the inside of the battery tube, specifically sanding the area at the bottom where the spring sits.

It's brandy new, I did suspect the spring so I stretched it to make a stronger contact but that didn't help. I measured the voltage of the battery in and out of the PV and I am getting 4.12v after several hours of use. The eGo measures 3.4v.
 

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Although my Indulgence is brandy new, inside the tube is covered with rust. Good call Papa. I dropped in a piece of steel wool and scoured it with a flat blade screw driver. I emery-ed both ends of the spring. Still the same with a standard 2.0 ohm atty. Interesting though, I put on an eGo Mega atty w/ a battery extension and the vapor production is as good as my eGo. The eGo Mega atty is 1.9 ohms. Can't believe a tenth of an ohm can be so different.
 

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Has anyone here opened and fixed the damn button? Mine has a mind of it's own and sometimes works but sometimes doesn't. So I tend not to use it because it's a PITA.

My button sucks also, stopped working (mechanically). I put a drop of baby oil or you can use mineral oil in the button and it works better than when I got it (plastic crap).
 

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Still can't get any real vapor. The voltage is good at 4.2v - 3.7v. but when I did an amp test, I only got 2.3ma. should be getting 1.85 amps w/ 2.0 ohm atty at 3.7v, not milliamps.
Voltage alone is no indication that everything is working okay, need the load of the atty for a real test.
Using brand new 18650 trustfire 2400mah batteries. Going to test w/ batteries and atty alone to see where the trouble resides.

I should have put this money toward a Silver Bullet. I would not recommend buying the Indulgence V2 no matter how great the price.
 

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How are you testing under load? Do you have an adaptor to hook up the test leads too? What is the voltage under load with an atty being run?

You're right - voltage under no load is not really a test of anything. If there's the slightest connection you will just read the battery voltage. If there's a problem with a poor connection somewhere, or a poor ground, that will likely only show up under load.

A few things you could test could be resistance across the switch, and resistance between the outside of the atomizer connector (ground) and the battery negative or the spring.

I agree with you, if it doesn't work as intended it's hard to recommend (and perhaps rather than persevering you should go for a refund). My old one works and still gives good service (despite looking beaten up). It performs about the same as other 3.7v mods (e.g. my Mako which is fully mechanical and much higher quality build). LR atty's on it glow very bright very quickly so I don't think it has a problem with "losing" power anywhere.
 
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