Eating crow…

[Spydro]

It's the wee hours of the morning here (about dark 4:30) and I’ve been busy all night with a project I’ve been putting off for many months. I’m working through old soldiers to determine their final fate, whether to toss or blend. Old soldiers = well over 100 bottles of juice I have not used for many, many months, some of them not for nearly 2 years. I already tossed out upwards of 300 of them this past year rather than spend the time messing them. These are some of the holdouts I thought might still have some merit someday.

Tonight I’m revisiting an atty I haven’t used for many months to do the task at hand. I didn’t really like it when I first got it, so soon delegated it to the truck load of out of service gear I have. Well, I have found something that it is doing very well. I’m dripping all these various liquids to sort them out in it. So I have to eat crow since it’s my bf Atomic that I have never felt I had a use for, or ever would. It still has the last dual coil build in it from many months ago I just dry burned the bare coils and rewick. Don’t remember what the build specs were, but it nets .61 ohm. It is making a long job quite easy. Have another 100 or so bottles still in the fridge to do the same with but will save them until another time.

So a dinosaur is using a dinosaur to get the job done, but we are getting it done.

Making a fresh pot of coffee, so while it’s brewing I took a quickie picture of the set up I’m using tonight. (Don't pay any attention to the joose in the bottle, it's what was feeding the Chalice III I had on the TRA SL/LP yesterday, and will again later today.)

 

[cadman]

The Atomic is my all day knock about atomizer. A very underrated atomizer in my opinion..

 

[Rule62]

I love the Atomic (RM4). It's a dinosaur, compared to the attys out there today; but still one of the best flavor chaser attys ever made. I have 2, one of which is always in my line up. My TRA Reo Grand with an Atomic is my 'golf course' set up.

 

[Spydro]

I don't like big clumsy atty's on my Reos (says the guy who currently has a Lancia on another LP Grand at the moment). In part why all of my 22mm atty's don't normally get used. I kind of like the glass tube of the Lancia with the fire and vapor production visible though. But it's a 55 gallon, the Atomic a 30 gallon whereas my preferred Nuppin's are only 20 gallon in size comparison. I don't see the Atomic ever becoming a daily driver. But after this experience I will give it a new build and play with it again some.

 

[airedale2]

I to thought about a 22mm atty, in fact I posted a thread asking about which one to get, still haven't pulled the trigger on one, don't know if I will, sort of on the fence I guess. I just like the look of the smaller atty's, have 2 of the Atomics, but I cant seem to get the flavor from them, so they been sitting on shelve, might be my builds or something that I have been doing wrong. like the looks of them though on my REO's, just wish I could make them work

 

[Libbydude]

The atomic is a definite winner. I just couldn't seem to remember to squonk often enough. Can't seem to pull myself away from my derringers.

 

[supertrunker]

HRH stole both my Atomics. When they are used by someone sensible (i.e. not me) then they are great versatile atties and she rates them as as good as the Nuppin'.

She has used the same coils in one for about 3 months (26g kanthal), using 2mm RxW, with weekly dry-burns and no complaints.

Since i am the coil-maker in these parts, i can't complain either.

T

 

[Rule62]

The atomic is a definite winner. I just couldn't seem to remember to squonk often enough. Can't seem to pull myself away from my derringers.

Yes. That's one thing about the Atomic. It doesn't have much of a well, like most newer attys do. I build mine with the coils angled, which means only one tail from each wick goes down to the deck. The wick on the high side of the coil is trimmed off just beyond where it exits the coil. So, it has to be squonked often.

 

[airedale2]

thanks Rule62, going to try the coils that way, I don't remember having coils on the angle, might take 1 of the shelve, and try that

 

[Spydro]

I bought several bf 22mm atty's even though I don't like the deck overhang look on metal Reos. Tried some of them once or twice, didn't like them so a couple more of them are still NIB and were not even tried. Like the compact mid diameter Nuppin's the best on my Grands and Woodvil's, but am also a big fan of the small atty's on the Mini's and older Woodvil's that are all easy flavor machines. Any size atty can be a flavor atty though with the right build for it's design that also does what the joose being vaped likes best. Some are way easier to achieve that with than others though.

 

[Rule62]

Old pic, but this is how I've always built mine.

 

[supertrunker]

thanks Rule62, going to try the coils that way, I don't remember having coils on the angle, might take 1 of the shelve, and try that

If you are used to small atties like the RM2, then it will seem odd to you that the height above the deck is so great on an Atomic if you are to align your coil with the airhole.

You must do this. If you angle your coil as Rule 62 suggests, you will have what looks like a long tail of wick hanging down to suck liquid from the deck. DON'T PANIC - it's supposed to look like that

I always used dual 26g kanthal builds on my Atomics, but higher gauge wire works fine too. Anything less than 26g is going to be a push unless you drill out the post holes.

It took me 2 or 3 goes with different builds and messing with all the airflow options on an Atomic to get what i liked. It is nothing like building on small atties.

T

 

[airedale2]

I bought several bf 22mm atty's even though I don't like the deck overhang look on metal Reos. Tried some of them once or twice, didn't like them so a couple more of them are still NIB and were not even tried. Like the compact mid diameter Nuppin's the best on my Grands and Woodvil's, but am also a big fan of the small atty's on the Mini's and older Woodvil's that are all easy flavor machines. Any size atty can be a flavor atty though with the right build for it's design that also does what the joose being vaped likes best. Some are way easier to achieve that with than others though.

I agree with you Spydro on the size of atty's missed out on the Nuppin's though, one of these days maybe I ll find one

 

[airedale2]

If you are used to small atties like the RM2, then it will seem odd to you that the height above the deck is so great on an Atomic if you are to align your coil with the airhole.

You must do this. If you angle your coil as Rule 62 suggests, you will have what looks like a long tail of wick hanging down to suck liquid from the deck. DON'T PANIC - it's supposed to look like that

I always used dual 26g kanthal builds on my Atomics, but higher gauge wire works fine too. Anything less than 26g is going to be a push unless you drill out the post holes.

It took me 2 or 3 goes with different builds and messing with all the airflow options on an Atomic to get what i liked. It is nothing like building on small atties.

T

I see what I have been doing wrong now! Thanks! going to break one out and give it a try

 

[Racehorse]

I’m working through old soldiers to determine their final fate, whether to toss or blend. Old soldiers = well over 100 bottles of juice I have not used for many, many months, some of them not for nearly 2 years. I already tossed out upwards of 300 of them this past year rather than spend the time messing them.

Have another 100 or so bottles still in the fridge to do the same with but will save them until another time.

There are a lot of vapers struggling (financially) to purchase ejuice and other items.

Might consider putting some of your "don't wants" into PIF here where a lot of us give away stuff we don't want.

A lot of people don't know it exists......it's for both ejuice and hardware, or pretty much anything a struggling vaper can use. There is also one for hardware swaps (trading) in the PIF section.

Treasure Chest may make the difference between somebody actually being able to continue to vape or not:

PIF Group Treasure Chest- USA - Please read first post for rules and guidelines | Page 159 | E-Cigarette Forum

 

[Spydro]

I agree with you Spydro on the size of atty's missed out on the Nuppin's though, one of these days maybe I ll find one

They sometimes show up in the classifies.

I have 6 Nuppin's in daily use, and more than enough parts to build 4 more "if" I had bases for them. I'm hoping to eventually have 12 of them to run on my 6 LP Grands and on 6 2015 Woodvil's.

 

[Rule62]

I used to build Odins the same way; with angled coils, because of the orientation of the air slots. In order to line up the coils with the air slots, there was a long side and short side. So, I tilted the coils so that the tail from the long side went straight into the well. The short side wick was trimmed off just beyond the coil.

 

[airedale2]

If you are used to small atties like the RM2, then it will seem odd to you that the height above the deck is so great on an Atomic if you are to align your coil with the airhole.

You must do this. If you angle your coil as Rule 62 suggests, you will have what looks like a long tail of wick hanging down to suck liquid from the deck. DON'T PANIC - it's supposed to look like that

I always used dual 26g kanthal builds on my Atomics, but higher gauge wire works fine too. Anything less than 26g is going to be a push unless you drill out the post holes.

It took me 2 or 3 goes with different builds and messing with all the airflow options on an Atomic to get what i liked. It is nothing like building on small atties.

T

Supertrunker Thanks for the advice, got mixed up there, that is exactly what I have been doing wrong, as soon as I saw the build on the Atomic in the pic, going to get one off the shelve and try that, Thanks

 

[Spydro]

There are a lot of vapers struggling (financially) to purchase ejuice and other items.

Might consider putting some of your "don't wants" into PIF here where a lot of us give away stuff we don't want.

A lot of people don't know it exists......it's for both ejuice and hardware, or pretty much anything a struggling vaper can use. There is also one for hardware swaps (trading) in the PIF section.

Treasure Chest may make the difference between somebody actually being able to continue to vape or not:

PIF Group Treasure Chest- USA - Please read first post for rules and guidelines | Page 159 | E-Cigarette Forum

IMO in today's so called politically correct world e liquids not still factory new/sealed should not be sold in the classifieds or given away. Why I tossed out so many open bottles of joose , and I will also toss out the rest of them I won't personally use. I have bought a lot of bottles of new sealed joose on line and had it shipped directly to military folks in need overseas, and bought new gear for a couple of folks as well. I have also loaned high end gear to some folks who just wanted to try out vaping to see if vaping was for them before buying their own gear. None of them took up vaping (or so they said), and none of them returned any of my gear.

 

[Papa_Lazarou]

Spydie, I swear we share DNA. Just last night I picked up a RM4 and thought "maybe it's time to try this bad boy again". Simple dual 26g built netting .4ohms and after trying a couple of juices, I thought "rogue, vector, derringer - you got some s'plainin' to do".

Sometimes I think we move things to dinosaur status too quickly in this scene.