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i think i mentioned things like this in the RxW thread. The first RxW thread.
But apparently there are vapers of Reos now that reckon they can vape all day at 0.2Ω all day with no ill-effects.
We shall see. I only have 3 years of experience, from floor to the elevated heights of 'don't believe you'.
Which is why i smile and post a little less than before. Clapton coils etc; yes yes, been doing those for ages.
Dibi-crack, Xobedriver, MM wire (Magic Mundy) - Atomics are easy.
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But apparently there are vapers of Reos now that reckon they can vape all day at 0.2Ω all day with no ill-effects.
We shall see. I only have 3 years of experience, from floor to the elevated heights of 'don't believe you'.
Which is why i smile and post a little less than before. Clapton coils etc; yes yes, been doing those for ages.
Dibi-crack, Xobedriver, MM wire (Magic Mundy) - Atomics are easy.
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So what are you saying bro, that we're both descendants of he same missing link?
Just followed your lead and went for a dual 26 at 4.0 in it. Mine came out at 3.5 though, in part maybe because the tails ended up shorter than I had allowed for in the calculations. Lowest build I've ever put on any of my Reos. I usually stay at 5.0 or above. I gave it extra wick with it's small well, took three of my very long lung hits and whoa, where the hell did my desk go? Total white out. Ran the numbers for the AW IMR 2200 mAh batt in it, 12amps - 50.4watts. No wonder. Not sure this build would fly yet, and still need to play with coil heights, etc. The first joose tried was OK but it was not really stellar. But then that joose likes higher builds so was probably not a good one to try on this build. Just tried another that likes lower builds, a lot better, but it's favorite build is in a Chalice III. Even with "too much" wick soaked 3 of my hits is the max between squonks, 2 would be a better choice.
Anyway, I'll play with it over the weekend, try other builds and see if it might get a spot on one of my Reos eventually. It is still a .... ugly atty in my eye though.
So what are you saying bro, that we're both descendants of he same missing link?
Just followed your lead and went for a dual 26 at 4.0 in it. Mine came out at 3.5 though, in part maybe because the tails ended up shorter than I had allowed for in the calculations. Lowest build I've ever put on any of my Reos. I usually stay at 5.0 or above. I gave it extra wick with it's small well, took three of my very long lung hits and whoa, where the hell did my desk go? Total white out. Ran the numbers for the AW IMR 2200 mAh batt in it, 12amps - 50.4watts. No wonder. Not sure this build would fly yet, and still need to play with coil heights, etc. The first joose tried was OK but it was not really stellar. But then that joose likes higher builds so was probably not a good one to try on this build. Just tried another that likes lower builds, a lot better, but it's favorite build is in a Chalice III. Even with "too much" wick soaked 3 of my hits is the max between squonks, 2 would be a better choice.
Anyway, I'll play with it over the weekend, try other builds and see if it might get a spot on one of my Reos eventually. It is still a .... ugly atty in my eye though.
Heh - I think where we differ is in inhale styles. I like a shorter, more intense inhale, whether DL or MTL. Maybe, two-three seconds in duration and probably more frequently than you.
I'm rocking some homemade chai (thanks, again, for the pointers) in it and it's singing.
I got inspired by you guys and dug the RM4 out of the tackle box, wound a single 1 ohm coil similar to my Magma set up and it is great. More vapor probably due to the slightly larger air holes, flavor is decent. The only thing is it's not a great traveler due to that shallow pan and it wants to leak around the air ring which is not good for pocket carry.
I've been DIYing my juice for a year and have about 30 bottles of brew that are just sitting. I've settled on 3 that are my main vapes. A nice caramel cappuccino mix recommended by Rule62 is one of them.
I've been DIYing my juice for a year and have about 30 bottles of brew that are just sitting. I've settled on 3 that are my main vapes. A nice caramel cappuccino mix recommended by Rule62 is one of them.
So you're saying I started something? Or restarted rather?It's the wee hours of the morning here (about dark 4:30) and I’ve been busy all night with a project I’ve been putting off for many months. I’m working through old soldiers to determine their final fate, whether to toss or blend. Old soldiers = well over 100 bottles of juice I have not used for many, many months, some of them not for nearly 2 years. I already tossed out upwards of 300 of them this past year rather than spend the time messing them. These are some of the holdouts I thought might still have some merit someday.
Tonight I’m revisiting an atty I haven’t used for many months to do the task at hand. I didn’t really like it when I first got it, so soon delegated it to the truck load of out of service gear I have. Well, I have found something that it is doing very well. I’m dripping all these various liquids to sort them out in it. So I have to eat crow since it’s my bf Atomic that I have never felt I had a use for, or ever would. It still has the last dual coil build in it from many months ago I just dry burned the bare coils and rewick. Don’t remember what the build specs were, but it nets .61 ohm. It is making a long job quite easy. Have another 100 or so bottles still in the fridge to do the same with but will save them until another time.
So a dinosaur is using a dinosaur to get the job done, but we are getting it done.
Making a fresh pot of coffee, so while it’s brewing I took a quickie picture of the set up I’m using tonight. (Don't pay any attention to the joose in the bottle, it's what was feeding the Chalice III I had on the TRA SL/LP yesterday, and will again later today.)
It was a super bish to remove that center post but if ya did you can remove the insulator and shave 2 sides of the metal center post weith a dremel and push the insulator back on then hammer the post back in..
Those new slots will serve for juice and drainage. No leakage after that.
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I didn't cut slots in mine. After pushing the center post out, which I agree is a chore, drilled through the squonk hole, out the other side, so that there are 2 holes. I also enlarged the wire hole in the center post, so that it's easier to install dual 26g coils.
My DLH's are slow, 9-10 seconds or more until it fills my lungs, and I'll do 2, 3 or 4 hits at a time. How intense the joose is dictates how many hits at a time usually. I repeat the same when the urge suggests doing so. How often depends on what I'm doing at the time same as when I smoked cigs and pipes. Sitting around imbibing alcohol with friends has always been the go ahead to smoke/vape more often. IOW, when I smoked a pack a day, if out drinking with a friend(s) it was two or more packs that day. The most of both was n the mid 60's, early on in the military in San Francisco and I was an alcoholic. The cigs only cost me a dollar a carton at the base PX then, at the club and bowling alley on base a stein of beer was 5 cents and liquor 10 cents, so cost was not a factor even on military pay. The bars in town were also low cost to anyone with a military ID, and would serve military no matter their age (I was 18). Everything was going to change though, and very soon... I met a new lady and stopped drinking cold turkey a couple of days later. I already knew she was the only elixir I wanted in my life. Without the booze I smoked far less too.
So you're saying I started something? Or restarted rather?
Yes you started something, and I'm still playing around with it, will probably try a different build in it tonight. With this build the flavors tried so far are not as good as they are in my daily atty's they are ran in, but each of them have builds in them that are the sweet spot for the joose dedicated to them. It took some time, trial and error to get there. I can see with the right build for a specific joose in the Atomic it might be a possibility as well now.
This was my first 26ga dual build in the Atomic (pretty sure the other was 28ga). I had no issues at all getting the 26ga wire in the center post. Maybe just beginners luck. Will find out, I'm probably going to do another 26 dual build but at around 5.0 later tonight.
Caramel Cappuccino has my attention. Sounds like a good mix.
TFA Caramel Cappuccino is great. But it's also one of the most potent and concentrated flavors known to man. Use no more than 1 drop per 10ml. Hard to believe, but that's how strong it is.
From that point, you can add whatever you like to it. The mix I've been making for years is this:
TFA Caramel Capp. 1 drop per 10ml
TFA Vanilla Swirl. 15%
TFA French Vanilla. 5%
You can shake and vape right away; but as with a lot of mixes, it gets better after its sat for a few days.
From that point, you can add whatever you like to it. The mix I've been making for years is this:
TFA Caramel Capp. 1 drop per 10ml
TFA Vanilla Swirl. 15%
TFA French Vanilla. 5%
You can shake and vape right away; but as with a lot of mixes, it gets better after its sat for a few days.
I rarely use my Atomic, which is odd considering that I DO like it. I'm the opposite of you, and prefer 22mm attys, but I'll probably always keep the Atomic around, it's a killer flavor atty, for sure.
Maybe when I get my third Reo I'll put it on there and use it more.
Maybe when I get my third Reo I'll put it on there and use it more.
Where it's at... I've been using the Atomic a large portion of the time day and night for 4 days now with several liquids to give it what amounts to a more fair chance to win me over than I did when I first got it. I am still running the same build, have had too many other things pressing to build any other coils yet. It's a 26ga dual 3/32" KGD build that came in lower than the targeted .4 at .35 ohms. The build is a major issue with my very long lung hits will all of the liquids I've tried. I know with some of them their flavor sweet spot is a higher build, but the build is an issue with all of them. The first cold hit might be OK, but a second or third followup is highly degraded because this atty gets extremely hot from just one of my hits. And it's pretty slow to cool back down. That doesn't fit my 2-3 hits routine at all. So obviously to work for me at all I need a higher ohm 26ga build, probably a much higher one, or a change to a different gauge, or, or, or. I'm not going to change my vaping style for it, it has to deliver through 2-3 of my VLLH's or I will not use the Atomic. I have a hellofalot of build experience, by trial and error could figure it out... if I took the time to do the T&E. It hasn't won me over enough.
So I figure an end result would be quicker and easier to just poll those of you that like and use this atty all the time for your suggestions, try a few of them that make sense. I have every gauge of K wire from 22 to 34 and several of flat, know how to build any kind of coil, have the tools, etc. But now days I only do mono, twisted and parallel coils single or dual to KISS. Have most all the different wicking materials, but prefer RxW3, and KGD over the rest (CC would be OK too if I didn't burn it up so fast). They are the only wicking I'll use now. And my hits require a lot of joose available, so my builds are only on larger forms. I do not build the smaller form coils at all anymore. I mostly use 3/32 & 7/64 forms, sometimes 2.5 and 3mm, rarely 2mm. Thanks.
So I figure an end result would be quicker and easier to just poll those of you that like and use this atty all the time for your suggestions, try a few of them that make sense. I have every gauge of K wire from 22 to 34 and several of flat, know how to build any kind of coil, have the tools, etc. But now days I only do mono, twisted and parallel coils single or dual to KISS. Have most all the different wicking materials, but prefer RxW3, and KGD over the rest (CC would be OK too if I didn't burn it up so fast). They are the only wicking I'll use now. And my hits require a lot of joose available, so my builds are only on larger forms. I do not build the smaller form coils at all anymore. I mostly use 3/32 & 7/64 forms, sometimes 2.5 and 3mm, rarely 2mm. Thanks.
Well, the easiest first step would be to pull one of the coils and try it with a single 26g. With your current setup, that should get you to .7ohms, which should not heat up too much.
I, too, have been dabbling with the RM4 for the last few days and I get what you mean about the heat up. For my vaping style (fewer, shorter hits), the dual 26g build is right on the edge of my heat comfort zone. Just for shiggles, I pulled one of the coils on my build about 2 hours ago and I find is: decreased, but still decent vapor, about the same flavour, (predictably) less heat. Would I call it the sweet spot? Prolly not, as I prefer the output of the dual build, buuuuuut as heat is your chief issue, this is a step in the right direction.
I, too, have been dabbling with the RM4 for the last few days and I get what you mean about the heat up. For my vaping style (fewer, shorter hits), the dual 26g build is right on the edge of my heat comfort zone. Just for shiggles, I pulled one of the coils on my build about 2 hours ago and I find is: decreased, but still decent vapor, about the same flavour, (predictably) less heat. Would I call it the sweet spot? Prolly not, as I prefer the output of the dual build, buuuuuut as heat is your chief issue, this is a step in the right direction.
My build, on the RM4, is 2mm diameter, dual coil, 7 wrap, which results in about .4 ohm. Coils are tilted, so that only the longer coil leg goes down to the deck. The factory drip tip can get a bit hot, but I don't like metal drip tips, in general. I use either a Pyrex, Tru-stone, or acrylic tip.
Thanks for the input Papa, Rule.
To clarify the heat thing, I was referring to how hot the atty itself gets is what degrades followup hits. Maybe its cooking the joose in the wick. While the hot atty has some effect on the heat of the vape too, it's not the heat of the vape itself that's the issue for me if that makes any sense. Nor the heat of the drip tip I'm running (a metal max wide bore). Rather when the atty is very hot, the flavor is lacking. The vapor while massive is not flavor rich. Somewhat proved out as the first hit from a cold atty is not that bad. Maybe that goes hand in hand with this build in this atty with my vape style.
Papa I can try pulling one coil for the .7 single net vape, maybe learn more from that as it applies to this atty. But I want to run this atty with dual coils if I keep using it. A .7 with 26ga would be double the wire, so a longer ramp time that would also dilute flavor probably. But it also probably wouldn't heat up the atty itself as fast. Speculation without trying it, or with another gauge, so back to the T&E which there may be no way around.
Rule, the biggest problem I have with 2mm builds is having enough joose available for my type of hits, especially 2-3 of them in succession. Why I prefer larger forms when building coils, normally 3/32 or larger. I know that 3/32 is only 20% larger than 2mm, but every little bit helps my hits.
Maybe I should try a 7/64 or 3mm 26ga dual .7 build in this atty. Same ramp time as if built on 3/32 but making far more joose available.
Pardon if some/none of these makes sense... a little punchy as it's past 4AM and I have been up for 3 days and nights. Maybe a pot of coffee is in order.
To clarify the heat thing, I was referring to how hot the atty itself gets is what degrades followup hits. Maybe its cooking the joose in the wick. While the hot atty has some effect on the heat of the vape too, it's not the heat of the vape itself that's the issue for me if that makes any sense. Nor the heat of the drip tip I'm running (a metal max wide bore). Rather when the atty is very hot, the flavor is lacking. The vapor while massive is not flavor rich. Somewhat proved out as the first hit from a cold atty is not that bad. Maybe that goes hand in hand with this build in this atty with my vape style.
Papa I can try pulling one coil for the .7 single net vape, maybe learn more from that as it applies to this atty. But I want to run this atty with dual coils if I keep using it. A .7 with 26ga would be double the wire, so a longer ramp time that would also dilute flavor probably. But it also probably wouldn't heat up the atty itself as fast. Speculation without trying it, or with another gauge, so back to the T&E which there may be no way around.
Rule, the biggest problem I have with 2mm builds is having enough joose available for my type of hits, especially 2-3 of them in succession. Why I prefer larger forms when building coils, normally 3/32 or larger. I know that 3/32 is only 20% larger than 2mm, but every little bit helps my hits.
Maybe I should try a 7/64 or 3mm 26ga dual .7 build in this atty. Same ramp time as if built on 3/32 but making far more joose available.
Pardon if some/none of these makes sense... a little punchy as it's past 4AM and I have been up for 3 days and nights. Maybe a pot of coffee is in order.
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