My apologies, you may have your thread back. My points were issues in regulations, safety, packaging and quality control. Which I believe as a consumer are all concerns that ECTA should be keeping in mind.
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My apologies, you may have your thread back. My points were issues in regulations, safety, packaging and quality control. Which I believe as a consumer are all concerns that ECTA should be keeping in mind.
There are actually quite a few places that use glass bottles that I can think of off the top of my head, and I've recently seen some vendors discussing the option of adding them or replacing their plastics with them.
On the more money issue... We pay more money for organic food, heck we pay more money just for healthier food in general. I cant say im entierly against the idea of paying more to support rigorous testing to be assured my vape products are safe.
Sure companies may use safe juice/hardware, but i have a hard time trusting this fairly new idustry, and sometimes people lie. I am reminded of the Big Tobacco conspiracy to secretly design more addictive products, who knows what could eventually be put in the juice to make this possible? It's kind of a safety net is it not? (Just playing devils advocate here)
Sure companies may use safe juice/hardware, but i have a hard time trusting this fairly new idustry, and sometimes people lie. I am reminded of the Big Tobacco conspiracy to secretly design more addictive products, who knows what could eventually be put in the juice to make this possible? It's kind of a safety net is it not? (Just playing devils advocate here)
While I too support the idea of having more defined standards and enforcement of those policies there are some practical considerations. If there's a trade association like ECTA then only the businesses within that organization will self-police (in theory). If, as the ECTA proponents state, their goal is to help bring in to law industry standards to make this a recognized and legitimate industry, then all businesses will have to submit to the law with respect to government standards anyway, so at that point any association set standards will be largely meaningless. All vendors, whether within ECTA or not, will have to observe the law. The hurdles to enforcement will still exist whether ECTA exists or not too. Pricing? I think it's safe to say that we all know that the ECTA businesses won't be dropping their prices anytime soon, whether the customs issue disappears or not. If nothing else they will need to recoup their expenses in setting up the trade association. They might even go up, but if the UK is an example then they obviously don't have to.
This does not mean that ECTA doesn't have any value. Just that fact that people are more aware of the issues right now means that consumers have already received value from ECTA at no cost, so thanks to the founders of ECTA for that. Also, any pressure on the industry as a whole to more uniformly observe safety standards is a good thing for consumers. Still, ECTA vendors need to be aware that with legitimacy comes more open borders, so if they get greedy and they don't get more competitive with pricing then ultimately their business will go flying out the doors anyway.
This does not mean that ECTA doesn't have any value. Just that fact that people are more aware of the issues right now means that consumers have already received value from ECTA at no cost, so thanks to the founders of ECTA for that. Also, any pressure on the industry as a whole to more uniformly observe safety standards is a good thing for consumers. Still, ECTA vendors need to be aware that with legitimacy comes more open borders, so if they get greedy and they don't get more competitive with pricing then ultimately their business will go flying out the doors anyway.
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I agree. I highly doubt prices will drop due to vendors being part of the ECTA. In fact I think vendors having the ECTA stamp on their site will give them an excuse to keep charging an arm and a leg.
IMHO pricing has little to do with customs. If a vendor's shipment gets rejected it is sent back to China or the point of origin. In most cases, it is re-sent & without issue. Sometimes the vendor is charged again for shipping
. Very seldomly has any vendor completely lost a shipment due to customs. This has even happened to the few vendors who keep their prices low. There are a few things that some don't fully understand about pricing.
A product is only worth what someone is willing to spend.
Most vendors do their majority of sales outside the ECF community.
Some vendors are doing this on full-time basis and some on a part-time basis & have margins set accordingly.
Lastly, some may just be greedier than others when it comes down to prices. Only the individuals know.
As far as I'm concerned pricing will never be influenced to all of the Canadian Vaping community as there are many vendors outside of ECTA who currently do not care about ECTA. We are talking about some big volume vendors, here. Happy Vaper is probably Canada's largest Online Vaping Store & they seem to have no interest with the ECTA.
I do wish the members of ECTA, well with their journey. Breaking down the barriers is their mission & boy would it be a nice world if HC removed the bloody ban.
. Very seldomly has any vendor completely lost a shipment due to customs. This has even happened to the few vendors who keep their prices low. There are a few things that some don't fully understand about pricing.
A product is only worth what someone is willing to spend.
Most vendors do their majority of sales outside the ECF community.
Some vendors are doing this on full-time basis and some on a part-time basis & have margins set accordingly.
Lastly, some may just be greedier than others when it comes down to prices. Only the individuals know.
As far as I'm concerned pricing will never be influenced to all of the Canadian Vaping community as there are many vendors outside of ECTA who currently do not care about ECTA. We are talking about some big volume vendors, here. Happy Vaper is probably Canada's largest Online Vaping Store & they seem to have no interest with the ECTA.
I do wish the members of ECTA, well with their journey. Breaking down the barriers is their mission & boy would it be a nice world if HC removed the bloody ban.
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