Edition 2 Cartomizers

[dohsma]

Mark,

Could you elaborate a little on the wicking problem? Quite a few of us are waiting on the 510 version to play with.

For example: Does the wicking material run throughout the liquid chamber? And does pointing the battery side of the carto down gravity feed liquid to the coil?

Be glad to... I have been following the other thread too. The wick does dip down into the chamber, and no matter how you sit the cart it just does not seem to wick fast enough. Take more than 2-3 puffs in a minute and you get the burning taste. We also got samples of the 401 and 510 models and the design is exactly the same on all of them. I have dissected quite a few, and it seems like once the wick inside scorches (which is very quickly), the burning taste is always there, unless you drip directly onto the coil.

 

[Adrenalynn]

I'm thinking the problem just lies on this design of the wire bridge burning the juice after say 4-5 vapes then the juice gets burnt, correct me if I'm wrong please, but after researching these and ordering some myself I was afraid of this exact thing

No - the problem is in the wick. The wick overheats because it's starved for coolant (juice).

I've been sent several of these from various and sundry sources.

[edit] Sorry, Mark, I had this thread open and took a phone call before replying - didn't see your reply.

 

[BanjoMan]

Be glad to... I have been following the other thread too. The wick does dip down into the chamber, and no matter how you sit the cart it just does not seem to wick fast enough. Take more than 2-3 puffs in a minute and you get the burning taste. We also got samples of the 401 and 510 models and the design is exactly the same on all of them. I have dissected quite a few, and it seems like once the wick inside scorches (which is very quickly), the burning taste is always there, unless you drip directly onto the coil.

Thanks for the reply. Doesn't sound promising but at least it should make for some interesting testing...

 

[dohsma]

Thanks for the reply. Doesn't sound promising but at least it should make for some interesting testing...

Good luck with it... nobody was more disappointed than us.

 

[br5495]

Sorry I didn't have better news.

We appreciate your honest report, regardless of how disappointing it is. Did you test them at a reduced voltage such as that provided by the eGo? I'm just wondering if the reduced voltage will allow them enough time to wick....br

 

[dohsma]

We appreciate your honest report, regardless of how disappointing it is. Did you test them at a reduced voltage such as that provided by the eGo? I'm just wondering if the reduced voltage will allow them enough time to wick....br

We received the 510 ones as well, and they seemed to fair the same.

 

[br5495]

Well shucks. Thanks for the quick response.

 

[mmcall12]

Aleast you guys do test them for us, some would just send them out without testing any of them,,, I guess you can say your are STP,, and I ty for doing this,,, love you guys at V4L

 

[SMILIN]

Man oh man, I was hoping these were gonna be fabulous, cause I am taking over more space, to triple our capacity, next month. This was going to allow us to carry additional models if these were the cats meow, I would just buy the whole production

IT is so unfortunate, cause leaford worked hard, with this technology. V4L, is commited to quality, service, and value.

We will continue to do so, I will NEVER, sacrifice on our mision for our V4L Family.

Enjoy

Steve

 

[v1John]

Originally Posted by br5495
We appreciate your honest report, regardless of how disappointing it is. Did you test them at a reduced voltage such as that provided by the eGo? I'm just wondering if the reduced voltage will allow them enough time to wick....br

We received the 510 ones as well, and they seemed to fair the same.

But has someone tried it with an eGo? The eGo is a peculiar 510 because it uses pulse modulation and less than 3.7 under load. Maybe the braid is not wide enough. Is it also possible to braid the rope strands around an air/liquid microtunnel?

Mark, do you have pics to post? And did you all try it with both premium and VG?

 

[syntaxevasion]

We're just disappointed. It's a cool idea, but does not work IMO.

Agreed. It has potential but there are issues with the v2 design that make them unsuitable for mass market at this time. I received samples of these a few weeks ago and have carefully taken them apart with a tube cutter to see how it works. As ingenious as the design is, they have some serious burn issues.

Not regular cartomizer burn issues like toasted marshmallows, but burn issues that make you sit and think "this can't be good, wth did I just inhale..gag"

At 5v they produced quite the toxic tasting vapor. Too bad, because sometimes they hit like an absolute champ. Back to the drawing board

 

[v1John]

Well now 5 volts is extreme. I have read that it only takes an increase of 0.5 volts to cause a significant amount of change in heat. Then they made wire coils with good low resistance so that they vaporize the eliquid properly, simulating a higher voltage by reducing the resistance. And batteries that last all day now exist in circulation, at approximately 3 point something volts. So I hope they try to make them work on batteries. What I mean is that I hope you guys are not expecting to make cartos to run on the 5.1V PT. PTs I only used until they invented the 3 point something batteries that last me all day.

 

[br5495]

The eGo is a peculiar 510 because it uses pulse modulation and less than 3.7 under load.

The actual voltage with about a 3 ohm load is right at 3.0 volts.

 

[Adrenalynn]

John, I agree. Task-driven transition phase passing resolves 90% of such problems. Why? Because synergistic missions evolve into superior juice reallocation. Transition phases ramp-up progress on current delivery. Clearly we need to take the issue of low resistance offline until a six-sigma critical path has productized synergy. I'm sure we can all foresee the benefits and this will assure us of design-led bleeding-edge product lines underwritten by TQM (Total Quality Management).

 

[theECB]

John, I agree. Task-driven transition phase passing resolves 90% of such problems. Why? Because synergistic missions evolve into superior juice reallocation. Transition phases ramp-up progress on current delivery. Clearly we need to take the issue of low resistance offline until a six-sigma critical path has productized synergy. I'm sure we can all foresee the benefits and this will assure us of design-led bleeding-edge product lines underwritten by TQM (Total Quality Management).

WOW!

 

[Adrenalynn]

WOW!

Naw, those seem to be working fine...

 

[geeker]

If you want to see your LED, just put the cart cap over it. You can see it without going crosseyed or holding your finger in front of it.

 

[Adrenalynn]

If you want to see your LED, just put the cart cap over it. You can see it without going crosseyed or holding your finger in front of it.

And if it's an auto, you can see it not work.

 

[geeker]

Seriously? I thought they were sound activated. Oh well, works for me and all of the normal people who use manuals.

 

[emygal]

And if it's an auto, you can see it not work.

Just tried it on an auto shorty that I have sitting here...it works.