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Yikes indeed. I've ordered from Hong Kong, and gotten delivery in 11 days. Ordered from Poland, got delivery in 13 days. There's no reason in hell for it to take 43 days from China, if it can get here from HK in 11 days. I think the folks see it, and go, oh it's from FT, doesn't matter how slow we go, they'll just blame it on FT.

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Do you guys use fast tech a lot? And essentially do you have look out for 'Authentic' in the title?
I have ordered there several time. Anything I am not in a hurry for, it's a good spot. I usually order in country, though, to get it faster. And yes, you have to look out for "authentic." FT uses the word "style" to mean a clone.
 

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Do you guys use fast tech a lot? And essentially do you have look out for 'Authentic' in the title?
most of my gear comes from fastech. i'm not concerned if its an authentic or a clone. I do pay a little extra for USPS shipping and usually get my orders in 2 weeks or less.
 

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The thread went crazy, I popped in a few times but I couldn't keep up. I'll have to look over the comments later. For now, I have to say, my mod arrived. It is only my second mod and my first is just a little iStick 20w so i have little to compare it to but I like it, BUT I don't like the tank. The flavour is AWESOME compared to my Nautilus Mini. It's on another level, but I hate the air flow. It's obviously a tank for direct lungers and I guess I have learnt from this that like @AndriaD I'm a fan of the tight draw. I loved sub ohming in the sense that I loved the warmer vapour and better taste so I guess what I need to find now is a good sub ohm tank with a tight draw. I've looked into the Cubis which seems to fit the bill but I want some other options to look at so any advice would be good. I've also heard that Joytech are not so great at tanks and the Cubis is indeed Joytech.

Another thing, I was expecting HUGE clouds and I was disappointed. I didn't get a whole lot more than I do off the Nauti with the air flow open. I've heard these tanks are cloud blowers so could I have been doing something wrong? I had the R80 up to 40w and was using the .3 coil. This may sound like a silly question but does the device make a difference to the cloud production or is it the tank and coil? For example, if two devices where both set at 40w and were using the same tank and resistance coils, could there be a difference?
 
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The thread went crazy, I popped in a few times but I couldn't keep up. I'll have to look over the comments later.
Sorry, I am partially responsible for it. I have been stuck at home all day :(
The flavour is AWESOME compared to my Nautilus Mini. It's on another level, but I hate the air flow. It's obviously a tank for direct lungers and I guess I have learnt from this that like @AndriaD I'm a fan of the tight draw. I loved sub ohming in the sense that I loved the warmer vapour and better taste so I guess what I need to find now is a good sub ohm tank with a tight draw.
That's a shame. I presume you set the tank's airflow to the smallest possible setting and the drip tip's airflow closed? The only suggestion I can make is to salvage the situation by grabbing a vape band and try poking some holes in it then stick it over the tank's airflow. It's worth a short..
This may sound like a silly question but does the device make a difference to the cloud production or is it the tank and coil? For example, if two devices where both set at 40w and were using the same tank and resistance coils, could there be a difference?
The atomizer and mod would make the difference in terms how low you could build. The atomizer in terms of airflow, which cools down the vape allowing you vape at higher wattage. I think a low ohm build is a pre-requisite for bigger cloud production.

I'm not sure unless I do a comparison of both tanks, but I think the tank with more airflow would be able to keep the vape cool at higher watts, whereas the tank with less airflow might produce a vape too hot.
 

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Sorry, I am partially responsible for it. I have been stuck at home all day :(

That's a shame. I presume you set the tank's airflow to the smallest possible setting and the drip tip's airflow closed? The only suggestion I can make is to salvage the situation by grabbing a vape band and try poking some holes in it then stick it over the tank's airflow. It's worth a short..

The atomizer and mod would make the difference in terms how low you could build. The atomizer in terms of airflow, which cools down the vape allowing you vape at higher wattage. I think a low ohm build is a pre-requisite for bigger cloud production.

I'm not sure unless I do a comparison of both tanks, but I think the tank with more airflow would be able to keep the vape cool at higher watts, whereas the tank with less airflow might produce a vape too hot.
Ahhhhhh, silly me. I had the tanks airflow at the smallest setting but the drip tip was open. It is MUCH better now. I'm not so keen on how wide the drip tip is. Is this pretty standard for sub ohm tanks? Perhaps sub ohming isn't for me? I'll try a few different tanks and see what works for me. I mentioned earlier that I prefer mouth to lung which is actually right but I like to direct lung too. I just don't like it super airy. I've been told that you have to direct lung when sub ohming. Is this right?

Sorry for all of the questions... again!
 

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The thread went crazy, I popped in a few times but I couldn't keep up. I'll have to look over the comments later. For now, I have to say, my mod arrived. It is only my second mod and my first is just a little iStick 20w so i have little to compare it to but I like it, BUT I don't like the tank. The flavour is AWESOME compared to my Nautilus Mini. It's on another level, but I hate the air flow. It's obviously a tank for direct lungers and I guess I have learnt from this that like @AndriaD I'm a fan of the tight draw. I loved sub ohming in the sense that I loved the warmer vapour and better taste so I guess what I need to find now is a good sub ohm tank with a tight draw. I've looked into the Cubis which seems to fit the bill but I want some other options to look at so any advice would be good. I've also heard that Joytech are not so great at tanks and the Cubis is indeed Joytech.

Another thing, I was expecting HUGE clouds and I was disappointed. I didn't get a whole lot more than I do off the Nauti with the air flow open. I've heard these tanks are cloud blowers so could I have been doing something wrong? I had the R80 up to 40w and was using the .3 coil. This may sound like a silly question but does the device make a difference to the cloud production or is it the tank and coil? For example, if two devices where both set at 40w and were using the same tank and resistance coils, could there be a difference?

I don't know what tank you got, but if you want a little tighter draw than whatever it offers, you might check out the Subtank Mini; I've heard it can be tightened down pretty well. It's a Kanger, who make pretty decent tanks. And I think it's one that offers both replaceable coils, and a rebuild deck if you want to build your own, so it could kinda "grow with you."

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Oops, forgot to add. Does more air flow equal more vapour? Oh, I feel so clueless! :yawn::blink:

You need more airflow if you're either sub-ohming or using high wattage; the higher airflow cools it so the wick doesn't burn; for that, you do need one of those wide "huff" tips; for mouth to lung, you need a narrower driptip. I think some folks may sub-ohm doing MtL, but it's not terribly common, just because you do need more air for higher heat. The higher heat is what makes more vapor (and drinks more juice!). To use less juice, you need a higher resistance coil, lower wattage, tighter draw. E.G. -- I vape *almost* chainvape style, but I use only about 4.5ml a day -- because I use such high resistance, low wattage, and tight draw.

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The thread went crazy, I popped in a few times but I couldn't keep up. I'll have to look over the comments later. For now, I have to say, my mod arrived. It is only my second mod and my first is just a little iStick 20w so i have little to compare it to but I like it, BUT I don't like the tank. The flavour is AWESOME compared to my Nautilus Mini. It's on another level, but I hate the air flow. It's obviously a tank for direct lungers and I guess I have learnt from this that like @AndriaD I'm a fan of the tight draw. I loved sub ohming in the sense that I loved the warmer vapour and better taste so I guess what I need to find now is a good sub ohm tank with a tight draw. I've looked into the Cubis which seems to fit the bill but I want some other options to look at so any advice would be good. I've also heard that Joytech are not so great at tanks and the Cubis is indeed Joytech.

Another thing, I was expecting HUGE clouds and I was disappointed. I didn't get a whole lot more than I do off the Nauti with the air flow open. I've heard these tanks are cloud blowers so could I have been doing something wrong? I had the R80 up to 40w and was using the .3 coil. This may sound like a silly question but does the device make a difference to the cloud production or is it the tank and coil? For example, if two devices where both set at 40w and were using the same tank and resistance coils, could there be a difference?
I don't know a lot about tight draw prefab coil tanks, so I'll let others steer you on that. Ask me, though, in general subohm and tight draw don't go well together. Subohm makes a lot of vapor, and that needs a pretty good airflow to help cool the coils. I don't think you're doing anything wrong, but 40 watts at .3 is not what I think of as "huge cloud" territory. It will make moderate cloud, yes, but not contest winners. Try running the wattage up-- carefully, in stages, so you don't burn your lips or cough yourself to death-- and see if your cloud doesn't get better. In general, the power source does not make much of a difference in cloud, it's all about the tank and coil. There can be variances in the way the devices measure the atomizer resistance or voltage, so two of them both set at 40 watts might actually be making different power levels. But this difference will be small, and probably invisible this side of a fancy meter.
 

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Ahhhhhh, silly me. I had the tanks airflow at the smallest setting but the drip tip was open. It is MUCH better now. I'm not so keen on how wide the drip tip is. Is this pretty standard for sub ohm tanks? Perhaps sub ohming isn't for me? I'll try a few different tanks and see what works for me. I mentioned earlier that I prefer mouth to lung which is actually right but I like to direct lung too. I just don't like it super airy. I've been told that you have to direct lung when sub ohming. Is this right?

Sorry for all of the questions... again!
Drip tips are replaceable. You can get one you like better. A narrower one will impede airflow through the tank, thus reducing cloud. Direct lung for subohming is not a requirement. It's necessary for big cloud, though. If you MTL, you can never get more cloud than your mouth will hold. It is perfectly possible to use MTL on a subohm coil. It will give you a nice, warm dense vape. But it won't be real steamy when you exhale.
 
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@waxxii what tank did you get?

I've ordered a tonne of stuff of fast tech. Mostly clones and bits and pieces that cost pennies. I'm in no real hurry so delivery time doesn't matter much. It is a great way to be able to try out various styles of tanks or RDA'S. If you find a cheap copy enjoyable then you could consider getting the authentic. That's what I'm going for anyway.

You can get a clone of the kanger subtank for £1.31. It comes with a couple of coils and an RBA. The original will cost you about 12 to 15 quid online or up to 30 quid in a shop.

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@waxxii what tank did you get?

I've ordered a tonne of stuff of fast tech. Mostly clones and bits and pieces that cost pennies. I'm in no real hurry so delivery time doesn't matter much. It is a great way to be able to try out various styles of tanks or RDA'S. If you find a cheap copy enjoyable then you could consider getting the authentic. That's what I'm going for anyway.

You can get a clone of the kanger subtank for £1.31. It comes with a couple of coils and an RBA. The original will cost you about 12 to 15 quid online or up to 30 quid in a shop.

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£1.31! Whaaat? That is insane :ohmy:. Are the clones generally pretty good? I've avoided them so far but since I have a ton of stuff I want to try it's the best way to go, especially since I might find I don't like certain items. I've not figured out what really works for me yet.

Thanks @AndriaD @suprtrkr and @KayP I'm a ton clearer on everything now.

On a down note, the charging port on the R80 is faulty. I can only get a charge by moving the cable around until it establishes a connection. It isn't the cable since I tested that with my iStick and that charges perfectly. I've contacted the vendor. I'll see what they say Another thing that I am unsure is a fault or not is the delay after firing. With my iStick I get maybe a half second before it fires, the R80 is kicking in after like 2-3 seconds. That seems a long time between pressing and firing to me. What do you guys think? What are you finding on your own mods?

Lastly, I bought some Cosmic Fog juice and was super excited about it. It turns out that I DEFINITELY don't like cereal flavours. Ugh. I'll leave it to steep for a while and see if I can tolerate it as a back up vape.
 
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Are the clones generally pretty good? I've avoided them so far but since I have a ton of stuff I want to try it's the best way to go, especially since I might find I don't like certain items. I've not figured out what really works for me yet.
I think it'll be a good way to ascertain if the build style; therefore, the authentic will be worth your money afterwards, and it's a good way to get acquainted with the atomizer. In terms of quality, it would obviously vary from one product to the other; again I'll let those with more knowledge chime in.
On a down note, the charging port on the R80 is faulty.
That's a shame. Since you chose a UK vendor, I'm sure they'll offer a speedy resolution.
With my iStick I get maybe a half second before it fires, the R80 is kicking in after like 2-3 seconds. That seems a long time between pressing and firing to me. What do you guys think? What are you finding on your own mods?
Do a quick Youtube search for reviews to see what they said the delay periods were for them. I think there is a 1 second delay on my RX200 and on my Subox I can't notice any, maybe half a second.

I did a quick google and found this review: SMOK R80 TC Micro One Review | E-Cigarette Reviews and Rankings The reviewer says he found no delay on his.
Lastly, I bought some Cosmic Fog juice and was super excited about it. It turns out that I DEFINITELY don't like cereal flavours. Ugh. I'll leave it to steep for a while and see if I can tolerate it as a back up vape.
I have a heap of cereal vapes stock piled and I must admit I'm getting a little sick of it :( I have moved onto a yogurty vape by The Schwartz but now I can't taste it all :( <Reminds self to be patient> :)

Steeping does improve the quality of juices, especially those with nicotine. I had a similar experience; however, the observation was made when I was suffering from my vaper's tongue. Still you will hear from many people on this forum that after some steeping their bad juices turned into their all-day-vapes.
 

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Anyone tried El Diablo?
I have not, but I want to. But then I see their price tags so I shy away. They specialise in Mechanical Mods and RDAs mostly; however, as of recent they have also released a tank which is receiving high praises. Imo their products would be mainly suited to those who want low builds, high watts and big clouds. No MTL here me thinks.

@braveminion bought a Hellboy RDA and she was not pleased with the flavour :(
 
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