eGo mega dual coil

[Crazy Canuck]

I just got my package from madvapes. They came with the round rubber tips.

And I am a little surprised that they're running on the USB PT... I syringe filled and threw it on an eGo battery to make sure it worked before I took it upstairs. I've never gotten such a good hit off my eGo before!

Oh well. It's living on my PT now, and working great. Looks kinda funny though, and VERY top heavy.

 

[bruiser]

I got some clear ones today. They came with the round baby bottle nipples. I think I'll go back to the flat tips. Filled one with 100 drops and screwed it onto the battery to see if it would work without messing with it or using the shorty extension. It worked! Looks as if that problem is fixed.

 

[TheJack]

The filler is new, it will expand with subsequent fills and be more absorbant, you won't get dry hits after a few fills. It takes a lot of juice, over 4 mls, are you filling it enough?

yes i`m filling it enough. i cant get anymore in. i even turned it on its side and dripped more in so it wouldnt run out but it goes dry and dumps out the bottom.

 

[Joanr]

yes i`m filling it enough. i cant get anymore in. i even turned it on its side and dripped more in so it wouldnt run out but it goes dry and dumps out the bottom.

Well I just don't know if none of the reasons given before are the cause of the problem. Put that one aside and fire up another and see what happens, maybe your juice is just too thin? What mix are you using?

 

[Marb]

yes i`m filling it enough. i cant get anymore in. i even turned it on its side and dripped more in so it wouldnt run out but it goes dry and dumps out the bottom.

I'm not sure what your vaping experience is and I'm hoping not to insult (since I'm pretty much a noob myself), but these will hit hard if they're working right, but fall on their face when they're flooded (like any other e-cig devise). But a few good powered-up drags will usually clear them out and they'll started kicking ..... What kind of fluid are you using? Relatively thick or thin?

As for them being filled enough, I wouldn't go by how much they claim they'll hold - mine vary considerably and I'm sure different fluids will yield different results. Once they start dripping/leaking, they have enough (or too much). 3mL's is about the sweet-spot with the fluid I'm using (PG-based only so far - haven't done any home VG-mixing with these yet).

As for you getting "dry" hits... please elaborate. Do you mean dry as in, not getting much vapor after the first couple hits? Or do you mean dry as in making your throat really scratchy but still producing adequate vapor? As stated by many and myself, these will kick pretty hard when they're working right - I just about choked the first couple times I used these - now it's just awesome.

And I assume you're using these on an eGo... what type?

EDIT: sorry, Joanr, I'm not trying to step on toes here - I just now realized you asked the same thing I did but more to the point - dang, I'm long-winded, lol...

 

[Tom10]

I purchased 2 and i keep getting dry hits. after about 4 hits it gets dry so i put a couple drops in and it dumps out the bottom. if i shake it a few times i can get a few more hits. in my opinion its junk. when i get hits its nice but never again.

You have a very unique and rare problem. I say rare because I've never heard of anyone else having what you describe. Thousands of people are using them with outstanding results, so these are not junk. You're either doing something wrong or you have some very rare duds. I suggest that you either contact the vendor for replacements or go back to the way you were vaping before - or both. I wish you better luck and happy vaping.

If you're wanting us to help you get to the bottom of this, you'll need to give us much more information. Examples:

Type of Juice.
Percentage PG/VG on the juice.
How you filled the cartomizer.
How much juice you managed to get in the cartomizer.

And, I think that others have asked a few questions in trying to help you.

 

[Tamster]

I love these kinda like I love my teens. They are robust and their enthusiasm is infectious. You can have a knee-slapping good time with them. They remind you of what it would have been like if at their age, you knew what you know now. They are also full of fluff and puff and promises, while they stick around for a few good laughs, some munchies, and a dip in the pool for a day or two.

Then suddenly, something happens -- you don't know what; a text, a hormone, something -- they get a stick up their ...., and completely shut down. No matter how you coax them or prod them, they won't budge. You provide everything from a hot shower to better drinks, all to no avail. Their attitudes go downhill, their insides are all mixed-up, until you just don't want to mess with them anymore, and end up throwing them out the door, just like I did last night.

Oh, I'd consider revisiting them again, the EMDCCs. They really are fun for a while! But thinking of them as anything other than disposable after a coupla uses, nah. Besides, I've since turned myself onto Boge 2.0s, and those suit my temperament much better, not to mention their overall good performance and superior reliability.

 

[six]

Oh, I'd consider revisiting them again, the EMDCCs. They really are fun for a while! But thinking of them as anything other than disposable after a coupla uses, nah. Besides, I've since turned myself onto Boge 2.0s, and those suit my temperament much better, not to mention their overall good performance and superior reliability.

I use 1.5 ohm standard dual coils, 2.0 ohm boge, 1.8 ohm boge, 3.0 ohm boge, 1.7 ohm triple coils, 1.25 ohm dual coils, emdcc's, and CE2s for my map tanks.

They all have their place. I'm not sure I would characterize the boge cartos as more reliable, and none of the boge, of course, have a 4 + ml capacity. I don't often use a boge or a standard dual coil on an eGo... maybe because I got a little spoiled with tybe-b megas holding over 3 ml. For my eGo and eGo clone batts, I'm pretty fond of the emdcc's just because of how I use the eGo batts. It's nice to have something that can go all day when I'm driving (where I live, everything is very far from everything else - I often drive 1500 miles a week or more).

I wonder why you're only getting a couple of fills out of the emdcc's. A little trouble shooting might be in order. Of the first three emdcc's I bought, one is still going after more than 6 weeks. It has been filled maybe 25 times or more. The other one that arrived working got tossed about a week ago because it finally had a major flavor change and cleaning didn't quite take care of it. I've never had a boge make it more than 3 weeks or so.

 

[DSL]

Okay, I had to order a couple of these monsters too. My reaction... Like sticking Square Bob Sponge Pants in my mouth. Weird feeling and not so pretty. They do produce a ton of vapor, and throat hit is overpowering. Flavor is very muted to me though.
Anyway, no thanks Mr. Sponge Bob on a tube. I'll stick with the Echo-E cartomizers (soon to also be dual coil) when using my Ego.

 

[JimmyJet]

Besides, I've since turned myself onto Boge 2.0s, and those suit my temperament much better, not to mention their overall good performance and superior reliability.

The beauty of vaping is that we have hundreds of choices in hardware and liquid. For many of us, the ultimate goal is to stay off analogs. Therefor we first need a foundation. In my experience, Boge 2.0's are a an ideal foundation. They are cheap, simple, reliable, and effective.

Experiment with this. Experiment with that. It's all great fun. And something new is always just around the corner. But I've yet to find a better foundation than Boge 2.0's. Wish I had found them sooner.

JJ

 

[Tamster]

I wonder why you're only getting a couple of fills out of the emdcc's. A little trouble shooting might be in order.

Thanks for wondering, because goodness knows I've tried every suggestion here. And I absolutely love them, even for the short time they work for me. It's only when I compare their longevity with what I see y'all gettin' over here, that I feel I'm sorely missing-out on something.

Based upon the glowing reviews you and Iffy gave these things, I got 6 of these pups the first week of July. At that time, I simultaneously ordered several styles of the DCCs: the emdcc; a silver mega; and a variety of small, medium, and large clear-duals (which were great for learning how to effectively syringe-fill). I subsequently posted on this thread how much I luv-luv-luvved the EMDCCs. I also ordered a box (5) of CE2s.

Now, at six weeks later, out of all of the above, I have only one EMDCC left. Everything clear was inferior (especially the CE2s), for one or more reasons, and were the first to go; I pitched most of them prematurely - my ChiaPet chemistry-set I got when I was 7, was more substantial.

With the EMDCC's, my problem is the central hole. I always checked that I could see through, usually easily clearing with a very long 18g needle, with no problem. And after no more than 3 fills, I'd look in that hole and suddenly, no see-through. OK, I take the old needle, and it's as though some sort of tumor grew in there, you'd think it was solid. Any pressure from me - at all! - resulted in the displacement of the innards.

A couple of them, I boiled, but nothing changed. Btw, the thickest juice I used was Boba's and GJ, and they were wonderful, for about 3 fills. In the others I used more PG-based blends, and they also clogged up (if "clogging" is, indeed, the issue). The one I have left has a PG-blend in it right now, and the hole is down to just barely visible, the last time I looked, when I refilled this morning.

I'd like to put it on life-support, but am beginning to believe that I just must have a black thumb. (I can't get plants to live, either. :/ )

I spent way more than $2.50 every three days when I was smoking. These EMDCCs are still the best when it comes to combining performance with convenience (re capacity), on an Ego, that's for sure!

I do have a question for you, Six. Please, I prefer a cooler vape on my Ego 1Ks. Of all the cartos you've used, which ones might I consider giving a look-see next? Thanks!

 

[GoodDog]

I have problems with them clogging quickly too. If I use my darker liquids I'm lucky to get one day out of them before the draw is so tight it makes my cheeks hurt. LOL I have one with clear Peach and it's being working for weeks now so I think my problem is my liquid. I was able to unplug a couple of them but they clogged again immediately. It makes me sad because these are the best things out there IMO.

 

[hyperfluous]

I had the same thing happen to some of mine. Juices that dont burn clean are going to clog them up fast imo. I have read but havent tried of a technique to clean the center tube. Berger on another forum says they have had acceptable results running a 3/32 nylon brush up the center hole of the battery connector till it pops out the top of the tube. This was done before cleaning the juice out as they found it helped lube the ram rod process. Might be worth a shot on one that is about to get thrown out anyways.

example of type of brush that was suggested
tattoo gun cleaning brush

 

[JimmyJet]

I have problems with them clogging quickly too. If I use my darker liquids I'm lucky to get one day out of them before the draw is so tight it makes my cheeks hurt.

You mean the cheeks on your face?

 

[six]

I do have a question for you, Six. Please, I prefer a cooler vape on my Ego 1Ks. Of all the cartos you've used, which ones might I consider giving a look-see next? Thanks!

Since you like the boge, the higher ohm versions will run cooler. I had some 2.5 ohm boge for a while, but those are impossible to find now (neither of the vendors I got them from have had them since and I've been unable to locate another supply). There is a 2.8 ohm boge and it should be acceptable on an eGo clone, but 2.8 ohms is a little high for a genuine joye eGo (regulated to around ~3.2v). Since a box of boge cartos is relatively inexpensive, that might be worth a shot. The boge are popular enough that if 2.8 is too high for your device, you'll easily be able to trade for something else in the classifieds.

A 2.4 or 2.8 ohm steel CE2 will produce a cooler vape too. And the Ce2's are able to produce a pretty good cloud even with lower volts. -- I say this all the time: I have a love/hate relationship with CE2s. The ones that work good are really good (top-notch - can't say enough good things or sing their praises loudly enough). The ones that need a little tinkering to get them working well are a hassle, but it might be worth it. The bad ones are just plain bad and frustrate me to no end. I use them primarily for my map tanks now and I still buy them, so my complaints aren't serious enough to keep me from continuing to spend money on them. -- Also, there are lots of threads about CE2s all over ECF. With the advice in those threads about how to get bad ones working well, the CE2s can be great and last for months. But, no one really expects more than 50% of the CE2s to work really well fresh out of the box.

There is a thread in this section about the ego-w. It has a CE2 style carto but is made specifically for eGo batteries. That might be worth looking at, but I haven't seen any user-reviews yet.

Lastly, though I haven't used them myself, I keep reading that the echo cartos produce a cooler vape. The comments in the ech thread make me think they're a lot like the go-go cartos. They make a pretty good cloud but it's cooler than the dual coils or low resistance boge by quite a lot.

 

[GoodDog]

You mean the cheeks on your face?

LOL Actually both places.

 

[Tamster]

Thanks for the comprehensive rundown on cartos, Six! I must say that the hits with the most flavor I ever got came from the CE2 -- but they were in no way worth the hassle and an ultimate waste of juice. Even before they start their inevitable leaking, they guzzle more juice for a few great hits than I care to afford. (And, yes, I cut around the notches, or removed top(s) entirely, lifted, schmifted, and oh, fuggedaboutit...)

The complexity of all my juices did come into focus with the CE2s, but overall, it turned out to be a big tease. I'll keep my eye out for improvements on this type of carto though (like the one for the ego-w that you mentioned, for example), as I agree there's a potential for some really knock-out taste and cloud.

A new EMDCC is good for me, because it performs like a dual-coil should, but it doesn't get the juice itself as hot as other duals, since there's more juice to go around, I guess. Now, if one could only figure out a sure-fire way to keep that passage-way clear...

 

[Tom10]

I've been using EMDCC's daily since they came out, and I've never had a problem one with the center tube. I've had several in use for over a month without even cleaning them, and I've never tried to clean the center tube in any way. I just try to not drip juice down the center tube, and that's the extent of my experience with the center tube. So, zero problems. I've also put a couple back in use after a month of use with just rinsing with hot tap water. At $2.49 each and great performance, I consider them to be a real bargain. On top of everything else, they hold a lot of juice along with their great overall performance and longevity. I conclude that the less you mess with them - the better and longer they will last. Obviously, it helps if you try to avoid thick, dark, and sugary juices. If this is the kind of juice you use, you should expect lower performance and longevity.

 

[wizard10000]

...A new EMDCC is good for me, because it performs like a dual-coil should, but it doesn't get the juice itself as hot as other duals, since there's more juice to go around, I guess. Now, if one could only figure out a sure-fire way to keep that passage-way clear...

I guess the lesson here is that not everything works for everybody

Got two suggestions and both of them involve spending a little money - if you want the EMDCCs to work maybe investing in an ultrasonic cleaner is the thing to do - I haven't tried it but a lot of people swear by them. I vape 100% PG (DK-TAB) and an EMDCC lasts for weeks - or at least it has so far. I've only been using them for about three weeks - I tried to clean one with a paper clip about two weeks ago and killed it, but its replacement has seen exclusive use for two weeks now and is still going strong. I run a paper clip up the thing a couple times a week (exercising a lot more care than I did with the one I killed) and it works fine.

The only other suggestion I have is that a Type B tank with a LR atty should give you about the same experience as an EMDCC but tanks can have their own issues - I've got a Type A tank and never did really like it although I've had no problems with it. LR 510 mega cartos might be an idea.

You did save me a bit of headache though as I considered getting a bottle of Boba's for myself - now I know to put it in the tank and not in the EMDCC

 

[hairball]

Juice plays a big part in the EMDCC's. I've been running 2 of them since they were released..six weeks? On the other hand, I filled one up last week with 100% VG vanilla chai latte and the draw has started to get harder as the days go on. Grant it, it's been filled about 5 times and no cleaning which even then, I can't complain about it's performance. When this tank is empty, I'm going to try to clean it in an ultra sonic jewelry cleaner and see what happens. Even if it doesn't come back to life, I have 30 new ones. Overall, I'm happy with them.