eGO-T blew up!!!

Status
Not open for further replies.

simply me

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Nov 23, 2010
525
178
california
Ford was the first car, so should we buy a cloned chevy? Just take care with the batteries. A little caution is good but don't let fear ruin vaping. They are electronics and things happen. How many vapers out there and how many failures. Rtd sells XTRA chargers and aw batteries. Good prices. Sailorman is giving some very good advice here. I have had many pv's and Joye was the least of my favorits.
 
Last edited:

sailorman

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Jun 5, 2010
4,305
2,840
Podunk, FLA
Personally I find this idea scarier than a battery exploding, I am not trained with electrics (I'm a mechanical and hydraulic engineer by trade) and therefore sticking the probes from a multimeter anywhere I consider to be a little irresposible.
A multimeter doesn't supply electricity, and you don't stick them just anywhere. A battery should be periodically checked when it's removed from the charger to detect if it's under or overcharging. It's a measure of it's general condition. Better to know if your charger is malfunctioning or if your battery is not fully charging. It ain't rocket surgery. You stick the probes on the pos. & neg. terminals. If you get it backwards, nothing will happen, except the meter will probably indicate reversed polarity. This is DC current, not a 240V mains. Even if it was, meters are fused. They won't allow you to be electrocuted even if you were dumb enough to create a short across the terminals. Probe your wall outlet. Do it backwards. What happens? Nothing at all. You should periodically check the output of the charger by the same method. Compare it to the voltage it's supposed to supply to the battery. There's a good chance that this ego was using a charger that was defective. It could have been supplying too much voltage to the battery. If that was the case, it could have been detected. Those ego chargers are notoriously cheap and the first suspect in these cases.

Lithium batteries are in so many things that we trust, mobile phones, camera's, even my sons satuaration monitor has a lithium battery pack, there may have been a fault anywhere, not neccessarliy with the battery itself, a faulty charger or a slight power surge (we had one that blew the element in the kettle but was not strong enough to trip the electrics for the entire house), by this method of thinking should we spend half our lives checking these, then what about the batteries that are actually in the multimeter (I know enough to know they have batteries)?
No, those batteries have internal charging circuits that are far more reliable than what's in an e-cig, if anything is at all. The are not like a bare cylindrical battery either. A bare battery may have a protection circuit inside it, but typically, it's a cheap ten-cent PCB and if it was defective, you'd never know it until something happened, like an overcharge or over-discharge. IMRs don't have a protection circuit at all. Most multimeters run on little alkaline batteries. They don't hold the potential to explode or vent like a lithium battery does.

I have never heard of anyone being electrocuted or starting a fire, or otherwise being harmed by sticking the probes of a multimeter somewhere. If you really wanted to, I guess you could lay a probe across both terminals of something and short it out, if they were close enough together. Good luck trying that on a cylindrical battery. If you do it, you deserve to be shocked. More than once in fact. It would be good therapy for you.
 
Last edited:

sailorman

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Jun 5, 2010
4,305
2,840
Podunk, FLA
Hey! Hang on... China and Japan are two VERY different countries with completely different cultures, values and languages. There are no such thing as knockoff products made in Japan, no 'third shift' either. Copy or counterfeit goods are illegal to import, and no one would be interested in them anyway. Just saying....

Haha..I understand. There are a few batteries made in Japan, but even those are often made for the very same label in China. You used to be able to get certain EverReady batteries. Grab two boxes and one was made in Japan and one in Taiwan. The point being that if all you used were batteries made somewhere other than China, you'd have a rough go of it. There's a difference between counterfeits and copies or clones. Counterfeits are sold under a stolen brand name. Copies or clones can be just as good, and come from the exact same assembly line as the brand name they're copying. A battery can be made in a production run of 10,000. Half get labeled with "Joye" and half get no label. Is the "Joye" battery better? Probably not. They're not "Joye" until the label goes on them.

People in the U.S. are used to thinking in terms of a company's product being made in one or more factories devoted to making their particular product. It doesn't work that way in China. You can have 4 different factories making the same product for 9 different companies. That product may well be made to what are substantially the same specifications for all 9 companies, except they get different labels and some might get no labels at all.
 
Last edited:

sailorman

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Jun 5, 2010
4,305
2,840
Podunk, FLA
I fly rc planes, the chargers rc ppl use are way different quality than the e-cigs. Every thing is monitered with it, volts per cell,charge rate and balance between cells. All this is on a led read out for the user to watch. One thing I was supprized at was the charge rate on my first e-cig kit. 200mah, thats alright for the long batt but for a short batt 180mah thats just over the limit at what rate it should be charged at. Prob not a biggie. I've never had a lipo that didnt get warm while they charge including a cell phone. The price for rc equipment has gone down a lot, more ppl can enjoy it now. I always watch my joye batts while they charge. If they get hot I disconnect them till they cool a bit then finish charging them. Im no doubt a little over cautious. I have had a little one cell batt. (110mah) short out and "puff up" in my hand. Lucky for me I took care of the short before it went pop still burned me though.
I used to fly up to about 3 years ago. The type of charger you described was $150-200 or so. The one I had didn't have an LED readout. But prices were getting reasonable and there were still a lot of new people in the hobby. Battery incidents were far more common than they are with ecigs. The thing is, you didn't see the hysteria about it like you do every time something happens here. I once forgot to change the setting on my charger and charged a 1200mah 7.4V battery at 11.1V. It exploded and flamed to the ceiling. I managed to smack it off onto the tile floor and no real damage happened, but if I'd have been sleeping it would have been a disaster. I posted on RC groups and the reaction was like, "Ho Hum. Happens all the time. Get a Lipo sack." Nobody talked about never buying Chinese chargers and batteries every time a battery incident was reported, even though a puffed battery was an everyday occurrence.
I must say though, I never had a lipo that got noticeably warm when charging (except that one). And none of my batteries, including the ego ones, get warm let alone hot enough to want to take them off the charger.
 
Last edited:

DKS-1

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Dec 7, 2011
304
2,387
VA/NC and NLV Land
o.k. now I am terrified. This is my first time here and I purchased an ego t today. Has anyone made any purchases from E Liquids USA?

I have and they sent me a total of 6 ego batteries before I got 2 that worked for more than a week. The stuff they sell is junk and it's not Joye, it's not even good knock offs. I'd never mess with them again, ever.
 

robcope

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Jul 3, 2010
250
127
Texas
I currently rotate through 7 ego batteries. Three from volcano e-cigs, two joyetech 1000 mah ego-c batteries and two ego-c vv batteries. The volcano inferno batteries are in the neighborhood of three years old. Never had a single problem, all the batteries are still in service to this day. I just hope people don`t over react. I have had two ryobi one drill batteries and one charger almost start a fire. Point is recharging batteries of any kind can be dangerous. Just pay attention when charging and you should be fine.

Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T using Tapatalk 2
 

tony.he

Moved On
Feb 23, 2012
31
7
China
www.kamry.cc
  • Deleted by classwife
  • Reason: Unregistered Supplier

Sedona

Full Member
Jun 26, 2012
25
3
Arizona
It seems from what many here have said, it's safer to charge the ego batteries with the USB plugged in the compter rather than the wall charger slowly?
Would ego batteries charge slowly with a Kensington Ultra Portable Pack as well? I used a Kensington with my 901 pass through for several years but never used it for charging an ecig battery.
 

markfm

Aussie Pup Wrangler
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jul 9, 2010
15,268
45,866
Beautiful Baldwinsville (CNY)
Plugged into a computer is not a safer thing to do than using a decent AC USB power supply.

The basic connectivity is USB power supply -- PV charger -- PV. You want the output of the USB power supply, whether an AC wall wart or the PC USB port to be greater than or equal to the mA specified for input to the PV charger USB. The PV charger output (in mA) needs to be less than or equal to the maximum specified for a particular PV. The PC chargewr polarity (whether center is positive or whether the outside of the connector is positive), and the PV charger voltage, also have to match the requirements of the PV.

I would much rather have a $10 - $20 AC USB power supply (wall wart) fail than have a whole computer get broken if the PV charger goes bad.

If your Kensington power pack could drive a true passthrough, then it is able to put around two amps or so, which is way more than needed to run an eGo charger. Not harmful by any means. The input spec for a typical eGo charger is somewhere around 500 mA (it should be printed on the charger), though maybe the newer very high capacity eGo batteries use a charger with a bit more oomph.
 

Sedona

Full Member
Jun 26, 2012
25
3
Arizona
Plugged into a computer is not a safer thing to do than using a decent AC USB power supply.

The basic connectivity is USB power supply -- PV charger -- PV. You want the output of the USB power supply, whether an AC wall wart or the PC USB port to be greater than or equal to the mA specified for input to the PV charger USB. The PV charger output (in mA) needs to be less than or equal to the maximum specified for a particular PV. The PC chargewr polarity (whether center is positive or whether the outside of the connector is positive), and the PV charger voltage, also have to match the requirements of the PV.

I would much rather have a $10 - $20 AC USB power supply (wall wart) fail than have a whole computer get broken if the PV charger goes bad.

If your Kensington power pack could drive a true passthrough, then it is able to put around two amps or so, which is way more than needed to run an eGo charger. Not harmful by any means. The input spec for a typical eGo charger is somewhere around 500 mA (it should be printed on the charger), though maybe the newer very high capacity eGo batteries use a charger with a bit more oomph.
Thanks Mark. The back of my Kensington says it's input 5VDC (USB) 1.00A max and output is 5VDC (USB) 1.50A max.
It's all greek to me.
I got it a few years ago after reading that a passthrough can damage a laptop. I don't know if they make the model I have anymore.
It's model number- Kensington K38021US Portable Power Pack
It works well for my 901 pass through. I ordered an eGo-T yesterday so still waiting for it to arrive. Trying to read up on what to do and not do with the unit.
 
Last edited:

Dsj44

Full Member
Jun 28, 2012
6
0
Florida, US
About passthroughs, I have a couple of (genuine) Joyetech 650mah hybrid PTs on the way. Is overcharging something to be concerned about on these? I will probably unplug them at night, but will leave them plugged in as I vape on-and-off during the day. Don't want anything to go wrong when it's right in my face.

The passthrough has a screw-on cap, so would this be able to go anywhere during thermal runway? What if the cap was off but the USB is plugged into the battery, would there be enough force to push that out (I'm assuming yes, otherwise the casing would explode, which would require more force?)?
 
Last edited:

AndyM

Full Member
Apr 12, 2012
25
8
Toronto, Canada
I think that in light of what happened here, I'm going back to analogs...already did in fact. Never had a cigarette explode on me before.

EDIT - BTW - This is not the only reason I'm quitting vaping...there's a few other reasons that have drawn me back to smoking recently, but this certainly seems like a good excuse to use for my lack of willpower during tough times.

Rick, you MIGHT get a battery explosion...like 1 in a million just might explode, and even so it may not cause damage or injury.

By smoking, you MIGHT not get lung cancer. Follow the logic?


There's more chance your tire might blowout while you're on the highway...surely that doesn't stop you from driving?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread