eGo-T Vs Go-go

[mohawkx]

hmm maybe the opening is slightly bigger on the nhaler carto? The end that goes inside the bat. Not sure looks like it though.

That really helps. Looking at both, they look the same. But your pictures gave me a thought. I'm going to take one of my used cartos and just shave the top end of the battery side with a file. Then it sould screw in tighter and make a good connection and it would lessen the air holes slightly, giving the gogo a fuller draw. Kinda like reverse porting. What the heck, it's only one used carto.

Thanks for taking the time to post such sharp pics. I know it will be a reference pic when refering to the carto.

 

[madmach]

want to quit i have found that the center post on the cart,o is floating just like the battery,s do all of the stuff i have is from inhaler i do not have any thing from cigeasy so i can not say for them

 

[madmach]

mohawkx before you take a file to your battery,s take a look at the cart,o center post it will move up and down just like the battery,s do they both are floating there so you can move them up and down.

 

[mohawkx]

mohawkx before you take a file to your battery,s take a look at the cart,o center post it will move up and down just like the battery,s do they both are floating there so you can move them up and down.

That's what I was saying. I'm not taking a file to my battery, thanks for the heads up though.

 

[want to quit]

That really helps. Looking at both, they look the same. But your pictures gave me a thought. I'm going to take one of my used cartos and just shave the top end of the battery side with a file. Then it sould screw in tighter and make a good connection and it would lessen the air holes slightly, giving the gogo a fuller draw. Kinda like reverse porting. What the heck, it's only one used carto.

Thanks for taking the time to post such sharp pics. I know it will be a reference pic when refering to the carto.

You brought me to the GoGo and helped to explain everything and this unit has been the best thing for me to quit analogs least I can do is make a picture of a carto. I would still like to know 100% what in the world makes them all not work 100% on my GoGo. And again THE STICKER WHAT IS WITH THIS STICKER?!?!?! just so wrong lol. Wish all a good night time to GoGo

 

[GoodDog]

want to quit, great pictures, thanks!! Look at how much looser the filling is in the CigEasy cartos. I have both and I think the CigEasy ones are superior maybe because of this (and not having that ugly sticker!). I think Nhaler is still selling the non-revised cartos from the first batch and CigEasy had the mfg make some changes and have been selling those. Hopefully they both will sell the revised ones and the problems will be worked out. Has anyone cleaned one of the new ones yet? I wonder if the filler will be easier to get back in. I took the filler out of one of the old ones and couldn't get it back in even after removing about a third of the polyfil.

BTW... I needed to raise the post on my charger a tiny bit to get one of my batteries to charge (even though it has worked previously after I filed it) and it only required a small amount of lifting. I used tweezers and it only took a second. Although I would prefer they get the mfg to the point we don't have to do this to get them to work. It's a simple fix but still it's annoying to not know if it will need to be tinkered with. I also have a battery that has a lower button. I had to cut my thumb nail in order to press it in enough to fire. LOL I know, I could change the way I press it but it was easier to cut my fingernail. hehe I love that there is no leaking or mess!!! I was so frustrated with all the eGo stuff getting all over and needing to have tissue handy whenever I vaped. It even left stains on my pink eGo batteries that I can't get off.

Sandiego, I agree with you totally. That's one of my pet peeves and I get upset when the vendors are protected and at the expense of the member/consumer. I'm the first in line to be on the side of a member over the vendor, mainly because I've seen so much vendor sh** that just isn't right and I don't trust ANY of them in this Wild West e-cig market. It's all about the money and there is a lot of it being made here. The least they can do is stand behind their products and have good customer service. It won't always be just these two vendors that sell the GoGo and I'll give my money to the one that proves they care about their customers. So far I haven't seen much of that consistently from either, but time will tell.

That's enough complaining for me for the week. LOL Sure are minor problems in comparison though!

 

[binaryman]

I think the problem with the connection between the battery, cartos and charger is ridiculous. fortunately I haven't had the problem yet. The only problem I have run across is if the battery has condensation on it when I try to use it in a charger or cartos.

Based on the conversation, I have the impression that since all of these posts 'float', that the more they are tightened the tighter they will need to tightened over time, to the point where they eventually won't work at all without continually raising the posts. Then when you get a new batch of cartos from the vendor I can see how some won't fire properly because the posts will have been recessed further down.

If I had a GoGo that had these kind of problems I would be ...... beyond measure. My guess is that none of these posts should 'float'. But since they do, it seems like the key would be to screw the connector snug and not tight.

I have to admit that this device has been the most trouble free device I have had to date and I feel sorry for those who have problems. I just hope that those affected are just a few, and that I am not the exception. I have a pack of 5 cartos coming in from NHaler tomorrow. I am curious what will happen.

I wonder what makes this design so unique that it doesn't work sometimes. Why can't it work like any of the other battery/cartos combo's in terms of connectivity. My guess is they need to redesign the battery connector but i am not a Mechanical Engineer.

For those Mechanical Engineers out their, would a spring soldered on the battery post help ?

 

[ExMarbRed]

I think the problem with the connection between the battery, cartos and charger is ridiculous. fortunately I haven't had the problem yet. The only problem I have run across is if the battery has condensation on it when I try to use it in a charger or cartos.

Based on the conversation, I have the impression that since all of these posts 'float', that the more they are tightened the tighter they will need to tightened over time, to the point where they eventually won't work at all without continually raising the posts. Then when you get a new batch of cartos from the vendor I can see how some won't fire properly because the posts will have been recessed further down.

If I had a GoGo that had these kind of problems I would be ...... beyond measure. My guess is that none of these posts should 'float'. But since they do, it seems like the key would be to screw the connector snug and not tight.

I have to admit that this device has been the most trouble free device I have had to date and I feel sorry for those who have problems. I just hope that those affected are just a few, and that I am not the exception. I have a pack of 5 cartos coming in from NHaler tomorrow. I am curious what will happen.

I wonder what makes this design so unique that it doesn't work sometimes. Why can't it work like any of the other battery/cartos combo's in terms of connectivity. My guess is they need to redesign the battery connector but i am not a Mechanical Engineer.

For those Mechanical Engineers out their, would a spring soldered on the battery post help ?

First let me add a little balance here. I have had two go-go kits and have been using all the batteries and 11 V1 (black blank "sticker" type) cartos all being topped off on average every other day. I screw every carto down on the battery until it seats completely. In my experience the draw is way to "loose" if I don't. While I did have to file down the charger connector on both chargers and one charger doesn't light up (it still charges fine), that's the most problems I've had. I do feel for the ones that have had problems and I believe these are serious and need to be addressed by the suppliers.

I worked as a mechanical engineer for 10+ years and I understand the design and why it's the way it is. The center posts have to be insulated from the outside ring. So you have a couple choices, you could use a solid type of insulator (glass or ceramic type of material) and then try to come up with a way to allow for manufacturing tolerance variances or you can kill to birds with one stone and use a flexible insulator. The flexible insulator allows for the center posts on both the battery and the carto to compress slightly making sure you have a good connection between the two. It also makes manufacturing/assembly easier as well as providing the needed insulating quality.

We're talking about tolerances in the thousandths or even ten-thousandths of an inch. Early in the thread we were talking about this and I measured a few cartos and all the batteries to see how much they varied. In my case they were all within two thousandths of an inch. Then I measured how much the center post would compress while coming back up to the same spot when the force was removed. In all cases, they would compress nearly ten thousandths of an inch. I can see some eyes glazing over so I'll sum it up....

I think the design is sound. The insulator is most likely a silicone rubber type of material which would give it all the properties needed, heat resistance, chemical (juice) resistance, elasticity, and dielectric strength (the insulating property).

I think the real problem here is quality control at the factory during manufacturing. Just like an engineer huh? We blame these problems on manufacturing and the guys in the factory blame it on bad design. But.... from what I've seen with my limited experience, these things are designed well. There's always going to be bad electronics (buttons, solder joints, components, etc.) and there are always going to be manufacturing variances. Are these problems more prevalent with e-cigs? I think so. I also believe that with any new design there are going to be some changes to make things better. That's one of the biggest problems with being an "early adopter" of any new design. I also chose Beta over VHS for three times the price way back when.

To sum up... if you were brave enough to stick this one out I'm sure the suppliers will take care of the problems, remember your problem *is* their problem. Also remember that there are quite a few of these things out there now and a lot of the people using them are doing just that, vaping the heads off and not posting here every day saying the same old thing.... "Still working just great".

I have not dealt with Drew but I do know that Frank has a bit of a problem getting back to you with email. Not the way I'd personally do business, but I can say that he has always gotten back to me eventually and made things right. I would just send another email every couple days to make sure you don't get lost in the shuffle. Again, I hate to hear of the problems some are having and I sincerely hope you get squared away quickly. But I believe those having serious problems are in the minority and am very hopeful that they get a good set so they will know how good this PV can be.

Take care Go-Go Nation!

 

[binaryman]

First let me add a little balance here. I have had two go-go kits and have been using all the batteries and 11 V1 (black blank "sticker" type) cartos all being topped off on average every other day. I screw every carto down on the battery until it seats completely. In my experience the draw is way to "loose" if I don't. While I did have to file down the charger connector on both chargers and one charger doesn't light up (it still charges fine), that's the most problems I've had. I do feel for the ones that have had problems and I believe these are serious and need to be addressed by the suppliers.

I worked as a mechanical engineer for 10+ years and I understand the design and why it's the way it is. The center posts have to be insulated from the outside ring. So you have a couple choices, you could use a solid type of insulator (glass or ceramic type of material) and then try to come up with a way to allow for manufacturing tolerance variances or you can kill to birds with one stone and use a flexible insulator. The flexible insulator allows for the center posts on both the battery and the carto to compress slightly making sure you have a good connection between the two. It also makes manufacturing/assembly easier as well as providing the needed insulating quality.

We're talking about tolerances in the thousandths or even ten-thousandths of an inch. Early in the thread we were talking about this and I measured a few cartos and all the batteries to see how much they varied. In my case they were all within two thousandths of an inch. Then I measured how much the center post would compress while coming back up to the same spot when the force was removed. In all cases, they would compress nearly ten thousandths of an inch. I can see some eyes glazing over so I'll sum it up....

I think the design is sound. The insulator is most likely a silicone rubber type of material which would give it all the properties needed, heat resistance, chemical (juice) resistance, elasticity, and dielectric strength (the insulating property).

I think the real problem here is quality control at the factory during manufacturing. Just like an engineer huh? We blame these problems on manufacturing and the guys in the factory blame it on bad design. But.... from what I've seen with my limited experience, these things are designed well. There's always going to be bad electronics (buttons, solder joints, components, etc.) and there are always going to be manufacturing variances. Are these problems more prevalent with e-cigs? I think so. I also believe that with any new design there are going to be some changes to make things better. That's one of the biggest problems with being an "early adopter" of any new design. I also chose Beta over VHS for three times the price way back when.

To sum up... if you were brave enough to stick this one out I'm sure the suppliers will take care of the problems, remember your problem *is* their problem. Also remember that there are quite a few of these things out there now and a lot of the people using them are doing just that, vaping the heads off and not posting here every day saying the same old thing.... "Still working just great".

I have not dealt with Drew but I do know that Frank has a bit of a problem getting back to you with email. Not the way I'd personally do business, but I can say that he has always gotten back to me eventually and made things right. I would just send another email every couple days to make sure you don't get lost in the shuffle. Again, I hate to hear of the problems some are having and I sincerely hope you get squared away quickly. But I believe those having serious problems are in the minority and am very hopeful that they get a good set so they will know how good this PV can be.

Take care Go-Go Nation!

Very nicely put!!

The day I start having the problems others mention, I will probably take the thing apart and create my own switch. I am sure it will be ugly and crude, but I hope in the end all that's required is to complete a circuit to the cartomizer when I need to vape.

 

[ExMarbRed]

Very nicely put!!

The day I start having the problems others mention, I will probably take the thing apart and create my own switch. I am sure it will be ugly and crude, but I hope in the end all that's required is to complete a circuit to the cartomizer when I need to vape.

Same here.... remember those floorboard-mounted dimmer switches on the old cars? Bullet-Proof!!!

 

[madmach]

i can deal with lifting a post here and there was long as i do not have to deal with the tank,s again with the hard drew and all the leaks that came with it. ill just stay with the gogo.

 

[Sandfury]

I know the current topic in this thread is the post issue but I wanted to come back and comment on something that Erfmann said in a post about a nice tip to replace the plastic plug on the Go-Go. He used a Ego-T Tank cut it down and put it right on the Go-Go Cart. Well, I would like to report that I have also tested this and it is working perfectly. I measured about 10mm from the edge (the part that would normally rest on the top of the Ego-T atomizer "1st Gen") and cut off the rest. It fits snuggly and the lip rests on the lip of the Go Go Cart. The draw is tighter now, though I do want to report I got the best draw by removing the 2 small plastic pieces on the mount piece. So, I would like to thank Erfmann for the recommendation and let anyone else know who has an Ego-T 1st gen tank that this method works perfectly if you are looking for a nice mouth piece.

Thanks

 

[binaryman]

Same here.... remember those floorboard-mounted dimmer switches on the old cars? Bullet-Proof!!!

hehe, yea! Shoot I might choose a metronome so I can force vape at a tempo of my choosing Or maybe be a bit more creative and put the battery in a holster by my side and run a wired tube up to my headset where the cartomizer is mounted at the end of the mic/mouth. Then all I have to do is press the button on my ear to vape and people will think I am talking on the phone like a receptionist.

 

[Smoking Guns]

I just wanted to let you all know that I received a PM from SSV2 (he didn't say his real name) stating that someone alerted him to my post and the ensuing discussion about CE's customer support. He said that in February he began as a temporary employee for CE, to help while they sort out some personal issues. Apparently there is a thread in CE's forum explaining the situation, and asking folks to email him directly with customer service issues.

He asked me to email him directly, which I've done. I'll keep you all posted, but it looks to me like a genuine effort to make things right. I'm not sure why the contact email on the web site isn't forwarded to SSV2 in the first place, so that this sort of thing could be avoided. But like I said it sounds like they're trying to get things squared away.

I was going to post SSV2's email here but I don't know if that's appropriate. I would urge any of you who needs to contact CE to send him a PM or look for his thread in CigEasy's forum below.

Cheers!

 

[leenix]

Hi all. I am glad others have voiced how innapropiate it is to bash another vaper for sharing the issues they have with any vendor. I have had some trouble with cigeasy as well and it seems to me that Frank is doing his best but that maybe he needs more help to keep up with his increased business as of late.

Anyway, has any one tried cigeasy's RY4 'easy' liquid (im betting this is dekang liquid) if anyone knows for sure if its dekang could you let me know? If anyones had experiance with cigeasy's or dekang's ry4 can you share your impressions of the liquid. I was going to get my prefilleds with easyboro but have recently found a 'cowboy' vape im happy with so i need to decide which flavor to get in my prefilleds. 15 ml for a buck more can't resist that deal.

Thanks so much in advance for any feedback.

Happy gogoin all.

 

[ExMarbRed]

Hi all. I am glad others have voiced how innapropiate it is to bash another vaper for sharing the issues they have with any vendor. I have had some trouble with cigeasy as well and it seems to me that Frank is doing his best but that maybe he needs more help to keep up with his increased business as of late.

Anyway, has any one tried cigeasy's RY4 'easy' liquid (im betting this is dekang liquid) if anyone knows for sure if its dekang could you let me know? If anyones had experiance with cigeasy's or dekang's ry4 can you share your impressions of the liquid. I was going to get my prefilleds with easyboro but have recently found a 'cowboy' vape im happy with so i need to decide which flavor to get in my prefilleds. 15 ml for a buck more can't resist that deal.

Thanks so much in advance for any feedback.

Happy gogoin all.

I'm not positive but I"m guessing that they are dekang... and while I didn't much care for the easyboro (it was the first juice I tried when I was new and thought I could only do a tobacco/Marlboro juice) I also tried the ry4 from cigeasy and thought it was pretty good. It's not real heavy on the tobacco flavor but you can tell it's there along with maybe some caramel/toffee. I could vape it no problem but have found I really like coffee/desert types now. KBV caramel cappuccino is my current favorite with Nicvape's Jr Mint Daddy a real close second. But now that I think about it maybe I'll load up a gocart with the ry4 and try it again... my taste is changing daily.

 

[leenix]

Thanks ex.

 

[txtumbleweed]

Hi all. I am glad others have voiced how innapropiate it is to bash another vaper for sharing the issues they have with any vendor. I have had some trouble with cigeasy as well and it seems to me that Frank is doing his best but that maybe he needs more help to keep up with his increased business as of late.

Anyway, has any one tried cigeasy's RY4 'easy' liquid (im betting this is dekang liquid) if anyone knows for sure if its dekang could you let me know? If anyones had experiance with cigeasy's or dekang's ry4 can you share your impressions of the liquid. I was going to get my prefilleds with easyboro but have recently found a 'cowboy' vape im happy with so i need to decide which flavor to get in my prefilleds. 15 ml for a buck more can't resist that deal.

Thanks so much in advance for any feedback.

Happy gogoin all.

I had my first ones easyboro and didn't care for it that much. I did get a bottle of chocolate mint from cigeasy that was real good but I didn't see it in the choices of prefilled. It is a good deal if you can find a juice of prefilled that you like otherwise it takes along time to vape 15 ml of something you don't like.

 

[txtumbleweed]

I just wanted to let you all know that I received a PM from SSV2 (he didn't say his real name) stating that someone alerted him to my post and the ensuing discussion about CE's customer support. He said that in February he began as a temporary employee for CE, to help while Frank (the owner?) recovered from a serious heart condition. Apparently there is a thread in CE's forum explaining the situation, and asking folks to email him directly with customer service issues.

He asked me to email him directly, which I've done. I'll keep you all posted, but it looks to me like a genuine effort to make things right. I'm not sure why the contact email on the web site isn't forwarded to SSV2 in the first place, so that this sort of thing could be avoided. But like I said it sounds like they're trying to get things squared away.

I was going to post SSV2's email here but I don't know if that's appropriate. I would urge any of you who needs to contact CE to send him a PM or look for his thread in CigEasy's forum below.

Cheers!

Good I'm glad they contacted you I know SSV2 has been trying to get these working as best he can. I think he has done the most testing on them and vapes one himself.

 

[scootertramp]

Hi all. I am glad others have voiced how innapropiate it is to bash another vaper for sharing the issues they have with any vendor. I have had some trouble with cigeasy as well and it seems to me that Frank is doing his best but that maybe he needs more help to keep up with his increased business as of late.

Anyway, has any one tried cigeasy's RY4 'easy' liquid (im betting this is dekang liquid) if anyone knows for sure if its dekang could you let me know? If anyones had experiance with cigeasy's or dekang's ry4 can you share your impressions of the liquid. I was going to get my prefilleds with easyboro but have recently found a 'cowboy' vape im happy with so i need to decide which flavor to get in my prefilleds. 15 ml for a buck more can't resist that deal.

Thanks so much in advance for any feedback.

Happy gogoin all.

No I talked to them about that. It is defiantly not Dekang