eGo-T Vs Go-go

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mohawkx

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Day 3 now and started with an empty gocart I filled myself.

It is topped off and vaping like there is no liquid in it.

3 Days is how long these cartomizers last me. I can't see how anyone could possibly get more than that out of them, anything is possible. But I'm not and that won't work for my vaping habit.

Have you tried pushing the filler down some in the carto to make sure it is seated at the bottom where the coil is? Most of the time that people post that they are getting very weak hits or no hits on a fairly new gocart that they know is full is resolved by gently pushing the filler down into the carto so that the filler is actually wicking on the coil.
 

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Day 3 now and started with an empty gocart I filled myself.

It is topped off and vaping like there is no liquid in it.

3 Days is how long these cartomizers last me. I can't see how anyone could possibly get more than that out of them, anything is possible. But I'm not and that won't work for my vaping habit.

I'm thinking that has to be part of a bad batch of carts or some other problem (i.e. thick juice). I've had them last over a month without even cleaning them. I've never had one stop working in 3 days, and that would be completely unacceptable for me also.
 

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Yeah if you check around the different forums you'll see a variety of users complaining about certain brands of ejuice causing atties and cartos to "gunk up".

I know for me that my beloved TV Atomic Cinnacide cuts my useful length of a GO-cart by about half. No big deal since I am retired and do my own rebuild type of GO-cart cleaning as outlined by Mohawkz. I can see though that if I didn't have the extra time to invest in rebuilding that I'd be spending a lot more money since my daily vape of DK-Tab and TV Atomic Cinnacide (and me burning thru 4ml plus a day of it) makes a GO-cart just about unavapable beyond 4 days or so.

I have been testing to see if it really was related to the TV juice and sure enough, a mix of DK-Tab and V4L NuPort in 2 cartos has been running for well over a week now. But again, that just doesn't satisfy me like scorching my throat and lungs with the AC and DK. Next time I order I am going to try a couple samplers of red hot cinnamon juices from other vendors just to see if the GO-cart wear is due to Tasty Vapor ingredients or just the type of flavorings any vendor would need to produce the flavor I seek.
 

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Borjis - I posted this over at CigEasy but I don't know what thread you might be checking.

... chocolate fudge bavarian cream

That sounds like it would clog your arteries faster than the coil in the Go-cart.

I only use 100% PG tobacco flavors. I've been able to use the same Go-carts over and over and over. When the performance dies I put them in an ultrasonic cleaner

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I fill the cleaner with distilled hot water and run it for 3 cycles (3 minutes per cycle), dump the water, refill and run for 3 more cycles, and dump the water. When I dump the water the second time I try to see if smell any e-liquid aromas. If I do ... another hot water fill up and 3 more 3 minute cleaning cycles.

After that I do the ol' Taryn Spin and set the Go-carts to dry overnight.

I don't boil them because Go-carts are not potatoes. I don't bake them because they're not cookies.

I found when I cleaned vertical coil cartos they could take a more strenuous rinsing. I used a Walgreen's medicine syringe for flushing. Tried it with a Bloog carto and killed it dead. The horizontal coil cartos appear to be more sensitive to invasive cleaning.

So ... gentle ultrasonic cleaning might help dislodge the chocolate fudge bavarian cream gunking up your coil.

On the other hand ...

How long is a $3 disposable item supposed to last anyway?
 

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I bought that ultrasonic cleaner and cleaned mine the way you said, bobalex. It made them clean but did nothing to increase the low vapor production. What's so odd is the original cartos I don't even clean and they produce huge amounts of vapor still. I tried a dry burn and could never get it to glow red so I suspect there is a problem with some of them. I don't vape any dark juices and they are all 80pg/20vg.
 

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It made them clean but did nothing to increase the low vapor production.

Well then ... I'm stumped.

Here's an observation that isn't probably relevant ...

Every once in awhile I'd get a Gold Label Deluxe cartomizer that seemed head and shoulders above the rest. It could be refilled more than the average GLD and after cleaning bounced back like new. It made me think that when mass producing a relatively cheap product ... there are variances throughout a run. Every once in awhile a "perfect" cartomizer was produced. Completely by accident. And every once in awhile a below average carto is made . Again ... completely by accident.

Now we know thousands and thousands of Go-carts have been sold since February. Recently some bad Go-carts have shown up and everybody's talking about a bad batch. But ... we're only talking about a couple of people who have low-performing Go-carts. Not enough to signal that there was indeed a bad batch. If there had been a bad batch then almost all of Go-go Nation would have one. Not the case.

I think that every once in awhile a sub par carto is produced. And we know it's sub par because after we use it we can't refill it over and over and over again. I mean it's not like these things were designed and produced to be disposable or anything ... oh ... wait a minute.

How long do we want a disposable $3 item to last? A month? 2 weeks? 1 week? How many refills do we realistically expect after one use? I figure after 3 refills it's all bonus time. And I think I've been lucky because I don't use anything but 100% PG tobacco flavors. Everyone's mileage will vary.

My vaping target is to spend about $1 a day. So far the Go-go's kept me within my budget. It's cheaper than Starbuck's, waaaaaay cheaper than cigarettes, and I've always said if anyone gives me any grief about my habit that doesn't hurt me or anyone around me that costs about a dollar a day ... I'm not sure ... but I think I can legally shoot them.
 

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LOL bobalex. I think you're right. I haven't tried all the new ones yet so I can't say they are all bad. I really, really hope the vendors work with the mfg to get QC up to par or the problem solved. I love the GoGo and am disappointed right now.

If you get a chance to pop into the CigEasy forum, note the posts by Frank the owner and SSV2, the technical guy working with Frank. SSV2 literally autopsies returned bad items for problems so they can pass it to the manufacturer, Kanger. SSV2 has also posted some threads with pictures showing internals of the batteries, etc.

Bottom line is they want you to let them know of a problem that is QC related so they can correct it through contact with the maker. I not only love that approach but support them as much as I can with purchases.
 

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as far as i can tell it's not a coil issue, the juice isn't getting to it.

if only a few of these had the problem, I'm fine with that, but every single one of them? I'm now on gocart # 7
That's 7 carts I've gone through in 3 weeks.

I'll contact ssv2 about return these to him & see what he comes up with.

How thick is the juice you're trying to use?
 

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the juice falls right through the ones that don't work. It's getting in everywhere BUT the coil area, thats the weirdness.
I took one of them apart....the filler was loaded with juice.

If it was too thick it wouldn't pass right through would it?


The juice I've mentioned is used by other gogo users with no problems.
 

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the juice falls right through the ones that don't work. It's getting in everywhere BUT the coil area, thats the weirdness.
I took one of them apart....the filler was loaded with juice.

If it was too thick it wouldn't pass right through would it?


The juice I've mentioned is used by other gogo users with no problems.

Sorry if this is repetitive but do you go through a lot of juice a day? My idea posted earlier that maybe the Tasty Vapor juice uses some high sugar content or such that causes the coil to prematurely gunk has been shot down so to speak as the only cause. TexasTumbleWeed (not TxTumbleWeed) says she uses the same juice I do and gets weeks out of a carto. So I am at a loss.

My DK-Tab and V4L Nuport don't gunk up the coil even with the way I vape. I mean I go through 4ml plus a day and the just mentioned doesn't stop the massive vapor but Atomic Cinnacide and DK-Tab wreck a carto in 4 days. That is what made me think it had to be the juice, right?

The whole thing is getting pretty extrapolated out but Texas using the same juice w/o problems and me using diffferent juice without problems... Wierd huh? My only remaining guess is that maybe the sugary AC vaped hard and fast gunks quicker than slow and even like most use a GO-GO. I mean when I "top off" a carto, it's always needing 45-50 drops. And when I hit it, it is pulling on it til most times the battery cut off kicks in and I hit it immediately again. I back off for a few minutes when the carto gets hot to the touch.

Sounds like I'm a hog but that's what satisfies the cravings for me. As I said, I am getting more unsure of my "issue" (if you can call it an issue) with short spans between cleanings the more feedback I get. The concept that the way I use a certain juice makes it gunk faster is a stretch but as of this post, I have nothing further to assume. When I clean/rebuild them, I get the same good vapor for up to 4 days again so it isn't the filler or the coil.

Yeah I'm confused right now, lol! :confused:
 
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echo cartos are about the same way. i get about 3 days from one carto, then its time to toss it. some juices plug up the carto faster(i tried tasty vapor and nothing has "gunked up" my catro faster than theirs).
i got 60ml of it here and i cant use it dues to how fast it plugs things up.
im guessing the go-go carto is structured about the same as the echo cartos.
i cant speak to the liquid running right through.
 

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the juice falls right through the ones that don't work. It's getting in everywhere BUT the coil area, thats the weirdness.
I took one of them apart....the filler was loaded with juice.

If it was too thick it wouldn't pass right through would it?


The juice I've mentioned is used by other gogo users with no problems.

Using the process of elimination, there has to be some sort of problem when you refill with your own juice. So, what is the juice you're using and how thick is it? I'm talking about the ratio between PG and VG. It would appear that you're going to have to change something unless you're rich enough to keep burning up cartos.
 
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