Just got mine the other day. Pretty upset that the rba doesn't fit stock, but I've never shied away from a challenge. Going to be drilling it out soon and make it work haha.
HI there, I totally share your disappointment on rba not fitting the eGrip VT. I drilled a 3mm hole on the top cap and inserted an extra o-ring down in the chimney (where it touches the edge of the top cap. It works perfectly now and no leaking.
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I have the same problem with my Egrip OLED and my Egrip VT using the CL base.
The problem is the two 'o' rings/washers on the top of the CL base.
Here's a link to a fix from another forum using PTFE tape:
http://www.dampfer-board.de/index.php?attachment/15309-workaround-egrip-oled-cl-base-082015-pdf/
Not tried it myself yet - but it makes sense.
"TempControl" means that it is working OK and the device is regulating the temperature.
285C-300C is set so high that the temperature control is not kicking in.
Set the temperature to 200C and hold down fire while looking at the screen. "TempControl" should flash on and off followed by the temperature and the wattage.
"AtomizerLow" or "AtmoizerShort" is a problem.
Make sure the Egrip reads the resistance of the coil correctly (0.4ohms for TI - 0.2ohms for NI) when you install a new coil and that you reset the basic resistance when it asks "new coil up".
Sometimes I have to unscrew, remove then reattach the base multiple times before it shows the right resistance.
Do not use much of the tape! The area is one of the electical contacts!
Try to get spare parts, mine is not leaking even with single ring. With a bit of liquid it gets slippery.
TC is working better wih Airflow wide open.
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If I use the CS base in my OLED - no leak.
Both my Egrips leak with the CL base - so it must be that.
I've got plenty of spare o-rings, I've even tried it with 3 o-rings - but it still leaks.
Just a bad design compared to the CL base with the larger, single o-ring.
The leak isn't too bad - but liquid builds up underneath the silicone case that I use.
It's leaking around the airhole - same as for @BetoMex.
It is that. On both CL-Bases i killed the upper ring, the other remained fine and they are dry with one, but this needs to be intact. When scewing in i am extremly careful.
That actually looks great! I always found the RX200 a bit too thick to be called pocketable, but this design probably makes a lot of sense for a dual 18650 all-in-one device.
The battery projections do look quite fishy. Would be interesting if they hold true though. An integrated tank becomes a lot more useful when you can finish it on a single charge. Still would've prefered a replacable battery, but with a removable Pyrex tank and adjustable airflow it wins me over were the Nebox couldn't. I'd say no TC is better than broken TC too. Hope we'll get a review soon!
Sorry for ignoring the eGrip VT (again). I just get excited when I see new all-in-one devices, which I think are missing a lot of focus from the industry.
Thanks for keeping me up to date!
That actually looks great! I always found the RX200 a bit too thick to be called pocketable, but this design probably makes a lot of sense for a dual 18650 all-in-one device.
The battery projections do look quite fishy. Would be interesting if they hold true though. An integrated tank becomes a lot more useful when you can finish it on a single charge. Still would've prefered a replacable battery, but with a removable Pyrex tank and adjustable airflow it wins me over were the Nebox couldn't. I'd say no TC is better than broken TC too. Hope we'll get a review soon!
Sorry for ignoring the eGrip VT (again). I just get excited when I see new all-in-one devices, which I think are missing a lot of focus from the industry.
Thanks for keeping me up to date!
Sort of Like the Disguiser 150w by Movkin as well if it only had a trusted TC board I might have bought one. Interesting clone variant of the RX200.
I had never heard of the Liqua Qube before BetoMex pointed it out and I agree it is a very intriguing device. Obviously only a concept at this point as it is not offered for sale on the site. Seems very ergonomic and smartly laid out but if released without TC in this day & age it would be almost a criminal oversight bordering on utterly moronic. Will also be looking at reviews as it emerges on the market.
Those battery projections on the Liqua Qube go way beyond fishy. They are absurd. Absolutely No Way to pull a battery curve like that with current technology without severely damaging the battery. They have Graphed an 18650 only down to 3.5v? At least use actual published battery curves for comparison.
The removable pyrex tank design and fully adjustable airflow is definitely intriguing but any tank is only as good as the atomizer design and options it comes with. Will watch this closely.
By far what what I really like about it is the display location, size & clarity. Very interesting indeed and I have been calling for a top mounted display design like this on all-in-ones for a long time. Nice to be able to actually see the screen settings while you are vaping and why I own 3 flasks. They really need to include TC so you actually have a reason to look at that great display while vaping and orient it 90 degrees like an Evic display so you can read it!
I have been saying for years that All-in-Ones have the greatest potential for growth in the industry and agree they have been largely ignored by the large manufacturers. On that point we agree completely.
Joyetech infuriates me with their inability to understand that merely updating an Egip with TC rather than designing more dominant and capable competitors to Nebox using their Evic Mini & RX200 designs coupled with larger capacity and full sized interchangeable single, dual, and Velocity style RBA decks to rule the market segment they created is a big mistake.
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Did you find any information about the board used in the Movkin Disguiser? All I found is that it does "Kanthal, Ni200, Ti and SS Mode", but no further specifications. Hope it'll be something reliable, because I'd say it looks great in white!
And I agree on the interesting design choices on the Qube. But innovation has to be backed up by current industry standards, which is (understandably) getting quite hard for newcomers. I guess that's when they have to resort to wild unsubstantiated claims about battery life...
I'm still not sporting an all-in-one because ever since the eVic-VTC Mini I hoped Joyetech would make the big move. Let's just trust they're taking their time to implement the design of their Cubis tank for that perfect top-fill, leakage-free all-in-one device!
And I agree on the interesting design choices on the Qube. But innovation has to be backed up by current industry standards, which is (understandably) getting quite hard for newcomers. I guess that's when they have to resort to wild unsubstantiated claims about battery life...
I'm still not sporting an all-in-one because ever since the eVic-VTC Mini I hoped Joyetech would make the big move. Let's just trust they're taking their time to implement the design of their Cubis tank for that perfect top-fill, leakage-free all-in-one device!
Does look good in white. Hadn't seen those pics yet. Initially thought board was Yihi Based but button layout does not seem consistent w/ the 350J. Looks closer to what Innokin uses in the disrupter. Their Luggy 60w has the same layout, only does NI200 and is non firmware upgradeable.Did you find any information about the board used in the Movkin Disguiser? All I found is that it does "Kanthal, Ni200, Ti and SS Mode", but no further specifications. Hope it'll be something reliable, because I'd say it looks great in white!
And I agree on the interesting design choices on the Qube. But innovation has to be backed up by current industry standards, which is (understandably) getting quite hard for newcomers. I guess that's when they have to resort to wild unsubstantiated claims about battery life...
I'm still not sporting an all-in-one because ever since the eVic-VTC Mini I hoped Joyetech would make the big move. Let's just trust they're taking their time to implement the design of their Cubis tank for that perfect top-fill, leakage-free all-in-one device!
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Thanks for the follow-up. I've lost faith in making it work properly but I'll give it a try again.
The Nickel coil keeps throwing me the "AtomizerLow/Short" messages. But I'm not sure if I'm resetting them properly. While unsrewed, I click the fire button once or twice, then screw it back on. Same message.
With Titanium coil, here are the LIVE results (trying it as I type):
@200C - 0.41ohms
1st try: Fired and what I got on screen was: 104C... TempProtection (2 seconds)
2nd try: 060C... 104C... TempProtection (2 seconds)
3rd try: 147C...TempProtection (2 seconds)
4th try: 151C...TempProtection... 185C...TempProtection (4 seconds)
On all of those tries, there is NO sound whatsover, no regular "shhhhhhh"/"burning" sound.
If I inhale, there's no taste or hit, but I DO blow vapour.
Any ideas? could the .41ohms be the fault?
I could attach a video if you think it might help.
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The 0.4 Ohm is ok, as anounced.
For me TC started working, with a good Airflow and a smooth, continous long draw till time out. Seems TC needs to be done "air-cooled"
The changes in your "Live results",look like a contact problem of the coil or electric problem of the VT to clear in the shop.
The 0.4 Ohm is ok, as anounced.
For me TC started working, with a good Airflow and a smooth, continous long draw till time out. Seems TC needs to be done "air-cooled"
The changes in your "Live results",look like a contact problem of the coil or electric problem of the VT to clear in the shop.
Your live results look ok and are similar to how mine works.
As you keep firing on each try, the coil is warmer (from the previous try) so the TempProtection will kick in sooner. 0.41ohms is fine for the TI coil. I get no "shhhhhhh"/"burning" sound at the lower temperatures either - I think that's just how TC works.
I wasn't suggesting you necessarily vape at 200C - just to use that setting so you can observe how the temperature control works. Turn it up until find a setting you like. Somewhere between 200C & 250C should be ok. Bear in mind anything over about 210C will burn the cotton in the coil when your coil runs dry and you will get dry hits and/or burn the coil with the Egrip - so don't keep firing it when it's dry like I did
As @flatfootandy say's - compared to the 1ohm coils, you need to direct lung inhale in a "continous long draw" with the sub ohm NI & TI coils . They need a lot of air and won't work with a mouth-to-lung inhale (like all sub-ohm tanks/coils).
RE the AtomizerLow/Short message - what ohms is the NI coil reading when you get that message?
I find the base resistance doesn't always reset after removing the coil and hitting the fire button, as per the Joyetech instructions.
With the NI & TI coils, I take the base out, press the fire button, then switch to VW mode and turn the watts down to the minimum, then hit the fire button again without the coil, then switch to NI or TI mode, turn the temperature right down, hit the fire button again, then put the coil back in. It's a PITA, but that usually works!
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OMG! Maybe it has been working all this time then. Might be a psychological problem, see, if I hear to "shhh/burning" sound, then it doesn't work in my book. LOL. I'll get back to the Nickel coil again soon.Thanks for the input guys.
Just getting a Temperature Protection message on screen only tells you you have reached your set temperature and the mod is working to keep you from exceeding that set point. So long as you are receiving a satisfying vape this is a good thing. Using TP is an adjustment as we subconsciously want that burning of our juice & cotton to give us throat hit flavors similar to burning an analog. That is not good for you and TP is designed to stop that from happening.
Thanks for the input guys.
Definitely give it a chance. It is an adjustment. After a while you will realize you are tasting your juice as intended & not your wick. Your coils will last much longer and in the end you will be healthier for it.
So, here my experience with the eGrip VT so far:
-when used with standard coil (Ni200 0.5 ohms ) at 290C it tastes like metal and the battery has quite short life span. It drains a lot of ejuice but I am not experiencing any leakage.
-I managed to adapt the RBA base on the eGrip VT (made an hole on the top cap in order to let the end of the chimney fit perfectly and add a large o-ring in there) and build a vertical coil (1.5ohms 28 gauge kanthal) as depicted on my profile picture. I have got more airflow, no leakage , nice vapors (around 20W in watt mode) and taste is much better,
-I am planning to buy some Titanium or Ni200 wire and attempt the same build on the RBA, just to exploit the VT function of the eGrip.
-I have ordered some CLR heads and will try those as well (by removing the inner metal ring on the top cap)
-when used with standard coil (Ni200 0.5 ohms ) at 290C it tastes like metal and the battery has quite short life span. It drains a lot of ejuice but I am not experiencing any leakage.
-I managed to adapt the RBA base on the eGrip VT (made an hole on the top cap in order to let the end of the chimney fit perfectly and add a large o-ring in there) and build a vertical coil (1.5ohms 28 gauge kanthal) as depicted on my profile picture. I have got more airflow, no leakage , nice vapors (around 20W in watt mode) and taste is much better,
-I am planning to buy some Titanium or Ni200 wire and attempt the same build on the RBA, just to exploit the VT function of the eGrip.
-I have ordered some CLR heads and will try those as well (by removing the inner metal ring on the top cap)
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