EJuice label?
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This is what is on my NicQuid bottle -- I think they have all bases covered.
Ingredients: USP Grade Propylene Glycol, USP Grade Glycerin, Natural/Artificial Flavorings, and Nicotine.
Flavorings may contain water/alcohol or trace elements of peanuts or other nuts.
Keep out of reach of children and pets!
12mg Nicotine (1.2%)
BOD (Born On Date), EXP (expiration date), Lot #
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Bar code
Also comes with child safety cap
Overall, I feel very comfortable with this product and wish other vendors would follow their lead.
Ingredients: USP Grade Propylene Glycol, USP Grade Glycerin, Natural/Artificial Flavorings, and Nicotine.
Flavorings may contain water/alcohol or trace elements of peanuts or other nuts.
Keep out of reach of children and pets!
12mg Nicotine (1.2%)
BOD (Born On Date), EXP (expiration date), Lot #
Address
Bar code
Also comes with child safety cap
Overall, I feel very comfortable with this product and wish other vendors would follow their lead.
Wow, so many responses... I just got up after 3hrs sleep so I need to read this... I'm new to all this and want to give it my full attention, after a quick speed read I may stop trying to win samples that make me sic and just try these ones out... P.s. have not gotten to other messages yet... Wow so many Legal words...
My $$$ and others like me? Big money will always go to the companies who realise that the 1% (not health but we yell the loudest) of the population that have problems are cheaper to deal with by compromise than to ignore... Because if its bad for me, and I die... You may have to pay a much higher cost... Like in California where eCig use is quickly becoming tied to anologs even with the evidence we have to the contrary.
If we do not... Big business tobacco will pay for what they know they can control... Do y'all want to go back to 50+% tax on your nicotine like anologs? Because it seems from a new persons perspective it may be inevitable without thousands/millions of voices yelling as one? Can someone organise a million-vapers-vaping march? 50 state capitals on same day with the same (cheep) signs chanting one easy slogan we can all get behind? Perhaps mod-envoy could give a 5 mod package to the person that comes up with it?
P.s. Thanks for understanding my spelling and grammar issues, took me 8 years to get my degree and I really really try... Give me math any day.
Time for a "Marching Million vapers Vaping" to be organised for every state capital on same day... Ops I said that to the last post... In America we only have a minority vote if we yell loud Enough to be heard? Maybe if Obama listened he could put his "change" to work for us and not against? Can we email-bomb him? Or FB overwhelmed with Vapors begging for help before the corporations Throw more money at the problem to push the little guy out before he has a chance to try?
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Trust Me... I would NEVER Bag on Someone for Spelling or Grammar.
I remember giving a Division Dean something I had written Back in the Day before Spell Checker. He told me he Stopped circling Missed Spelled Words and Grammatical Errors after the 2nd Paragraph because his Marker started to Dry Out.
He Laughed and said he Knew why I was a Math Major.
Think the way Steve Jobs did and fix that problem then? We can all be David's to the cig-business (play off Big-business) Goliath... As long as the cost in taxes or regulation does not blow our "vape-budget" before the product "hits the shelf"
I agree, but it does not have to be like that? They (big brother) is hitting us on three fronts... Mail, web sales tax, and regulations? Perhaps more if you think about it? But we seem so disorganised and competitive that we fail to realise the cost wheel for manufactured juice has dropped under 40¢ per mill and even at 10mills a day it's cheaper than anologs... The market can't handle that low a price if we expect venders to buy more expensive testing and safety equipment... This price war must end, and a standard needs to be agreed Upon or you will be like Tesla and be walked over by Edison? Be more like jobs and gates, willing competitors who loved two different things.
Sprites are arguably the best anolog out there and it's $7.50 per pack here, @ 2 packs a day (not me but some rich people) that comes to 15$... Take 1/3rd away for $10 per day for best of best makes it $1 per mill (high end) and garbage brands are cheapest buying two for 6.27$ after tax (just checked with local smoke shop)... So remove 1/3 again and put the cheapest eJuice (still voluntarily regulated) @ 4.20$ per day if you assume 10mills (don't know but that seems extreme high 10 mills per day?) the budget brands or new venders should be able to sell above the 45¢ per mill price and still make what they need?
Ok, now Breakfast and quest Chanel for some good old music with Cisco... Then I will read the 10 page legal document... Perhaps the 6 venders would be willing to answer my allergy questions directly? (Thanks @cisco for that, and @quest @vapeon.tv and @nova for their shows but would remind some of you that Cali kids are still up and having dinner when your most popular shows go live)
Edit: should have checked schedular first @gothicvash sorry!
Edit: should have checked schedular first @gothicvash sorry!
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I would like to point out that Tesla was not walked over by Edison. Edison launched a smear campaign against Tesla. And then because Tesla was using JP Morgan's money to try and provide limitless free electricity to the public, JP Morgan black balled him. He ended up being turned into a pariah.
I wish it Wasn't.
But until we get all the Soft Money and the Campaign Pay-Offs out of the System, it Isn't going to Change.
And the Only people who can Reform Government are the People who Benefit from the Current System. Elected Officials.
There are some great ideas posted and vendors do need to start listening to consumers regarding manufacturing standards and label disclosures. It's fair for customers to expect at least the minimal disclosure that are even required on foods and supplements. Unfortunately, too many still don't even meet that basic criteria. However, it's important to note that CASAA will not attempt to regulate the industry. CASAA decided early on that we cant be all things to all people, and so we choose to focus on those issues that we believe we are uniquely qualified to handle. Accordingly, at this time, CASAA has not taken a position on specific manufacturing standards or labeling issues from a consumer standpoint.
We are aware of at least one industry group, AEMSA (AEMSA.org) that has established guidelines for its members regarding the manufacture of liquid. You might want to contact AEMSA to share your thoughts, as well as contact the vendors you deal with. We do recognize these standards as being a matter of consumer interest, so we might address them in the future. However, we are not working on that at this time.
We are aware of at least one industry group, AEMSA (AEMSA.org) that has established guidelines for its members regarding the manufacture of liquid. You might want to contact AEMSA to share your thoughts, as well as contact the vendors you deal with. We do recognize these standards as being a matter of consumer interest, so we might address them in the future. However, we are not working on that at this time.
Consumer confidence. It's no different than other industry associations that self-police above and beyond government regulations - such as government-licensed real estate agents who also join the REALTORS associations and commit to higher standards and ethics than even required by government regulations. Today people mistakenly think all real estate agents are REALTORS, but they are not. It costs a lot of money to join national, state and local associations, even though it isn't required by the government to do so. Back in the day it was a group of brokers who formed to improve consumer confidence that anyone associated with them had to adhere to higher standards or get kicked out and it differentiated them from the fly-by-night agents. If AEMSA (or whatever organization earns consumer confidence) plays it right, having an official stamp of approval could tell consumers that a vendor goes above and beyond the minimum requirements to ensure quality and safety and increase their business.
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@Kristin Thanks for the clarity! Please keep up the good work on the Legal stuff that confuses most of us (if we are Honest)! I wish I had money to send you... If you organise a "Million Vapors Marching" campaign directed at local states Simultaneously: I will be there! If in Washington I would be their in spirit and on as many live shows as my old iBook G3 500 will let me log into.
Consumer Confidence is Huge.
If an e-Liquid Retailer has Obtained AEMSA Certification it would be a Big Plus for me if I am shopping for Retail e-Liquid.
But here's the Deal. If Government Regulations are Coming, and they Are, then what is the Emphasis for an e-Liquid Retailer to Plunk Down a Substantial Chuck of Money to AEMSA if the Same Requirements are going to be Imposed by the FDA Anyway?
Or, in a Worse Case Scenario, e-Liquids in Liquid form are Severely Limited or even, Not Allowed.
If I was a e-Liquid Manufacture, I couldn't see giving Any Trade Organization Monies until I had a Better Understanding of what the FDA was going to do.
All Fine People. And Unfortunately, All Dead.
I hope there are some Living People who might be able to Change the Mess Government has become. Because I Don't Know Any.
We all are, individually and as a Comunity: hope, faith, belief and hard work? Maybe you, maybe me... Maybe many many people...
True, a wait-and-see approach may prove prudent in this case. But as far as what an association seal of approval can give, it's like getting a seal of approval from the BBB or Good Housekeeping. Government regulations do not guarantee compliance and who will ensure compliance? The government is notoriously bad at enforcing its own rules and regulations - there's so freaking many of them! lol!
Anyhow, even once there are government standards, there will still be fly-by-night companies and those who are less than ethical. Having an association that will assure consumers that the companies who are members of the association (and listed on their web site to easily find, of course) are above board, follow the rules and regulations and trustworthy is an added value for consumers. It's standard practice in hundreds of industries and there is no reason why it wouldn't work for the e-cigarette industry, as well. It's why we have the BBB, Angie's List, the UL and a whole host of industry organizations. People know that just because there are laws that doesn't mean all companies follow them. So, regardless of what rules and regulations the FDA comes up with, consumers will benefit from and ethical association that is ensuring quality and adherence to those rules and regulations. It also benefits vendors and customers to have a powerful association that can lobby the FDA to make improvements to those regulations to better serve the consumers. (For example, the REALTORS Association doesn't just hold brokers accountable, it developed the MLS system and lobbies for laws that benefit home buyers and home owners and against those that would make home ownership less possible or more expensive - ie. taxes, interest rates.)- Status
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