Eleaf GS Air Fan : Part 2

[morningdew]

Looks like you may have answered my question I posed earlier (was it in this thread? I think so...) Anyway, I was wanting to know what was best for conserving juice insofar as one can when one is a chain vaper. No one seemed to have a clear answer (I even Googled it!) but the theory seemed to be that the smaller AFC opening the more "siphoning" of the juice, thus more of it burning on a draw. Seemed logical to me...and you seem to be confirming it! Interesting! I was beginning to suspect as much from my fumbling attempts at "testing" I've been doing the past couple of days.

The thing that confused me a bit was seeing a post by someone saying that the open air flow thing was for "cloud chasers" at hight wattage who didn't care about wasting juice (or something to that effect). Got me scratching my head, wondering.

Yes the cloud chasing wide open airflow does appear to contradict my observations. However I don't think cloud chasers open up the airflow to get more juice to the coil, clouds being achieved via huge wicks - max vg - high wattage, instead in this scenario the open airflow is likely all about cooling the vape.

That's just a theory though...I am no expert!

 

[Jingles]

I am curious if anyone here can compare a Kabuki tank to the GSAirs as far as flavor and vapor production goes. The Kabuki is much more expensive, but is likely a higher quality build-wise. I am very skeptical about the Kabuki since it uses the Nautilus coils which I do not prefer over the GSAirs.

 

[LostVapeMonster]

I am curious if anyone here can compare a Kabuki tank to the GSAirs as far as flavor and vapor production goes. The Kabuki is much more expensive, but is likely a higher quality build-wise. I am very skeptical about the Kabuki since it uses the Nautilus coils which I do not prefer over the GSAirs.

I don't know, but it's fun to say -"Kabuki".

 

[MsLoud]

I am curious if anyone here can compare a Kabuki tank to the GSAirs as far as flavor and vapor production goes. The Kabuki is much more expensive, but is likely a higher quality build-wise. I am very skeptical about the Kabuki since it uses the Nautilus coils which I do not prefer over the GSAirs.

This is where I am with the Nautilus coils. I started rebuilding on a Kayfun to get away from those coils. The GSAir coils are simply unmatched IMHO. Wish the GS coils fit the Kabuki. I'd certainly own a few tanks if this were the case.

 

[LostVapeMonster]

Grrrrrrrrr. Update from DD after her checkup, and NO progress.
My lovely little Vera knows how good she has it in her mommy's tummy and doesn't want to come out.

 

[IMRs]

Aye most seem to prefer the 1.5's. I would but am paranoid about the silica, I try and use cotton whenever I can. Real shame they don't do 1.5's in cotton.

The turning the wattage up along with increasing airflow has fixed the spitting/ flooding. Back in use and am able now to lower the wattage and reduce airflow again.

Really nothing wrong with silica, as far as I know. Maybe some day you can start rebuilding these with Rayon (Cellucotton) to see what we're raving about.
I've rebuilt with cotton and the downfall is that it burns too easily and after it burns, it's just not real pleasant.

Anyway, I was wanting to know what was best for conserving juice insofar as one can when one is a chain vaper

I don't think there's an alternative unless you go back to cigalikes or something that barely uses juice, especially if chain vaping. I seriously think that the more juice that's used, the better the flavor you will get.

 

[GranFumador]

I don't think there's an alternative unless you go back to cigalikes or something that barely uses juice, especially if chain vaping. I seriously think that the more juice that's used, the better the flavor you will get.

I buy juice with one objective in mind—heat it up, turn it into vapor/vapour (AE/BE). Enjoy the taste.

Conservation is for trees and wildlife.
—Cantankerous curmudgeon

 

[fourthrok]

I buy juice with one objective in mind—heat it up, turn it into vapor/vapour (AE/BE). Enjoy the taste.

Conservation is for trees and wildlife.
—Cantankerous curmudgeon

Ah yes. But I DIY...and frankly am sometimes lazy, and often too weak/ill to bother. True that DIY is more economical than buying juice....but it's not free, either. It's just my thrifty side trying to work with my habit so it's a bit less draining to my energy reserves and my pitiful pocketbook!

 

[LostVapeMonster]

Ever get thrown under the bus at work for something you didn't deserve at ALL?

 

[IMRs]

Ever get thrown under the bus at work for something you didn't deserve at ALL?

Practically daily. It's so nice to be off on vaca!
Well, what they don't know is, I have a bigger bus!

 

[GranFumador]

Ever get thrown under the bus at work for something you didn't deserve at ALL?

Nope, because I always deserved at least as much punishment as I received.

 

[Katya]

Conversley lower wattage and less airflow would appear to help avoid dry hits,

Not quite. Lower wattage, yes, but less airflow will most certainly lead to overheating and thus dry hits.

Anecdotally, the worst hits I have ever experienced in my life came at very low wattages, ~5.5-6w, with low-airflow devices like eGo-C atomizers and my Aspire ETS.

I would but am paranoid about the silica

May I ask why? If you don't care for the taste of silica, then there's not much to argue about. But if there's any other reason, like safety, you really don't need to be concerned. IMHO, silica wicks are safer than cotton or rayon because they do not burn and are FDA approved.

 

[Katya]

I am curious if anyone here can compare a Kabuki tank to the GSAirs as far as flavor and vapor production goes. The Kabuki is much more expensive, but is likely a higher quality build-wise. I am very skeptical about the Kabuki since it uses the Nautilus coils which I do not prefer over the GSAirs.

I can. The idea of making a super tank with the $89 price tag that will only work with mass-produced Aspire coils is odd, to put it mildly. If they make a Kabuki with a universal fitting that will take all the stock coils (and an RBA), I'll revisit it.

 

[tiburonfirst]

are FDA approved

 

[Katya]

Don't laugh. I've done my research on silica, as you may remember, during Aspiregate.

Amorphous silica is FDA approved and perfectly safe for inhalation.

Crystalline silica, AKA fiberglass, ain't.

https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/threads/eleaf-istick.601111/page-661#post-15496790

"Amorphous Silica: Multiple studies have found amorphous silica to be biologically inert when
ingested and inhaled, with the exception of extruded fiberglass and ceramic fibers (which have been
designated as carcinogens by the National Toxicology Program), which are hazardous due to their
very small size and their high length to width aspect ratio. Because of this inertness, the US Food
and Drug Administration permits the use of amorphous silica (not fiberglass or ceramic fibers!) in food
and medicine. "

 

[tiburonfirst]

I've done my research on silica

and don't i know it

 

[morningdew]

Not quite. Lower wattage, yes, but less airflow will most certainly lead to overheating and thus dry hits.

Anecdotally, the worst hits I have ever experienced in my life came at very low wattages, ~5.5-6w, with low-airflow devices like eGo-C atomizers and my Aspire ETS.



May I ask why? If you don't care for the taste of silica, then there's not much to argue about. But if there's any other reason, like safety, you really don't need to be concerned. IMHO, silica wicks are safer than cotton or rayon because they do not burn and are FDA approved.

Oh I guess it's concerns around silica I've read, though you make a good point in other post. As you say no guarantee cotton is safe either. I'll give the 1.5 coil I have a try sometime, the 1.2 is going fine for now, by briefly turning up the wattage I sorted the overnight minor flood and spitting, 2 days in and 10 mil down and it's going very well at anything from 11 to 15 watts.

More airflow certainly cools the coils and provides a cooler vape. however I was thinking that on draw it prevents as much juice wicking, whereas less airflow would allow more juice to wick. Anecdotally...I used to use my mini aerotank with a high vg juice, taking the airflow right down allowed it to wick, if I opened up the airflow it would dry hit.

It may have something to do with pressure, air coming in with a more open airflow exceeding the air pressing the liquid down in the tank, resulting in less wicking. Then again what do I know, am making this up as I go along!

Got the nautilus drip tip in the gs air now and it improves over the stock drip tip. Hate to say it as I'm very fond of the nautilus (been very reliable for me), I think the gs air may be better all round. Ah just looked under the drip tip and lots of juice, then again I get a fair bit of this with nautilus.

 

[IMRs]

Ah just looked under the drip tip and lots of juice, then again I get a fair bit of this with nautilus.

That's mainly condensation.

 

[IMRs]

Tia, I forgot to add... That little bit of flooding you get in the morning is usually condensation also. When the head is sitting all night, the condensation loads up in the chimney, on top of the coil. If this happens to me, I take the tip off and shake it out a little in the sink and afterwards, carefully put a rolled up napkin down the chimney to get the excess out. Keep in mind, it doesn't happen all the time. Sometimes the reason could be your weather. I was getting that problem a lot this summer when it was super hot out. As we all know, temperature change can cause condensation.

 

[IMRs]

'Morning Puffers and Puffets!! Rather quiet in here the last couple of days.