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zoiDman

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I was just thinking of ordering a pack or two of the 1.2 cotton coils, as I currently only have 7 coils that can be rebuilt. Sure glad I read the above. I don't want them if I can't easily rebuild them.

That also puts a damper on an iStick 40 TC/GS tank purchase. Wouldn't get into TC at this point if I can't rebuild the coils.

I'm Not Sure how Easy/Hard the 1.2 Ohm Heads are going to be to Rebuild? I know the 1.5 Ohms Head are Pretty Straight Forward.

Just Wish I had dawned on me that these 1.2 Ohm heads were had a Different Body before I bought a couple Packs of them!

But Looking back in this Thread, I should have Realized that they were.
 

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Too late... :lol:
Well I didn't want to start an argument but with the TC40 it adjusts watts in .1w increments not .1v so at the res. you quoted there would be only about .02 to 0.03 volt change with a .1w adjustment.
 

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and call me peculiar but when we were using 2.6 ohm coils the 0.5 watt adjustment step did overshoot my desired voltage by too much, hence my preference at that time for vv :D
naturally, with an 0.1 watt adjustment that point is now moot ;)

Right...

On the other hand, I have two more questions:

1) Can we really tell the difference in vapor production and quality between, say, 7.1 and 7.2 watts? [I don't think I can.]

2) How do we know that our poor iSticks or Defenders REALLY change the wattage in .1w increments? Or is it just the display that changes in .1w increments? :lol:
 

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That also puts a damper on an iStick 40 TC/GS Tank purchase. Wouldn't get into TC at this point if I can't rebuild the coils.

BTW - No Reason to the Kibosh on the GS-Tank.

I have been running a GS-Tank with Regular Heads in it. It is a Very Solid Performer.
 

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Have you checked the little o-rings and grommets? Are they seated properly? Check the tank also, you may have a vacuum problem.
I had something strange happen the other day. The M tank and new coil was fine for a day but when I went to vape I got the "no atomizer" on the battery display. When I unscrewed the tank from the battery there was juice on top of the battery. Not in the 510 threads/connection, just sitting on top the battery. Now this was a new tank with very tight air flow control, but now it was very loose. Thought it was shot somehow. Took it apart to save the coil and when I unscrewed the coil it was harder than usual and the o-ring and grommet were wacked out. Cleaned it up, put it all back together, and it's still working fine. :confused:
 

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Well I didn't want to start an argument but with the TC40 it adjusts watts in .1w increments not .1v so at the res. you quoted there would be only about .02 to 0.03 volt change with a .1w adjustment.
Well not sure what Istick model this started with, but the point was made you can adjust power in .1w increments while with the typical 1.5 ohm coil in voltage control with a .1v change that's about a 0.5W change so finer control of the voltage to the coil in watt mode as you point out (ultimately either mode controls the voltage to the coil). Those figures are true for my istick30w if you're vaping at around 10W on 1.5 ohms, not true at other power levels or resistances, P (w) = V(squared)/Res, or V= Square root[P(w) x Res]. Curious, does the istick40w TC not have a voltage control mode?
 

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October 22. In the meantime, I have this guy to spoil
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1) Can we really tell the difference in vapor production and quality between, say, 7.1 and 7.2 watts? [I don't think I can.]

2) How do we know that our poor iSticks or Defenders REALLY change the wattage in .1w increments? Or is it just the display that changes in .1w increments? :lol:
1)Not me. Takes a nominal .3 minimum wattage change before I notice a difference in vapor volume or taste.

2) I take your apparently tongue-in-cheek question to heart because the readings I get for resistance on any istick 30 are consistently higher than what is displayed by either of the Defender 50s in daily use. For most new 1.5 ohm dual coils, my sweet spot with any of the Air tanks is 8.4 watts. With the Defenders, ceteris paribus, it's between 7.5 and 8 watts. Either the sensing devices, the software, or even the displays, or some combination of these varies from mod to mod.
 

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Well not sure what Istick model this started with, but the point was made you can adjust power in .1w increments while with the typical 1.5 ohm coil in voltage control with a .1v change that's about a 0.5W change so finer control of the voltage to the coil in watt mode as you point out (ultimately either mode controls the voltage to the coil). Those figures are true for my istick30w if you're vaping at around 10W on 1.5 ohms, not true at other power levels or resistances, P (w) = V(squared)/Res, or V= Square root[P(w) x Res]. Curious, does the istick40w TC not have a voltage control mode?
It doesn't and someone said then it was a no go for them. But my point was you could just look at the small voltage display as you adjust the watts to set it at the volts you prefer. Mox Nix :)
 

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It doesn't and someone said then it was a no go for them. But my point was you could just look at the small voltage display as you adjust the watts to set it at the volts you prefer. Mox Nix :)
Ah I see now, thanks. That's exactly what I do on my Istick30 anyway, keep it on power mode to fine tune the vape, and glance at the voltage for fun of it lol. No need for "voltage mode" with it.
 

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It doesn't and someone said then it was a no go for them. But my point was you could just look at the small voltage display as you adjust the watts to set it at the volts you prefer. Mox Nix :)

ah! but that someone only said 'no go' because she had not ever :lol: changed the mode to watts on her newer mods and therefore had no idea that the 0.5 watt adjustment is, apparently, a thing of the past! :D
 

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1)Not me. Takes a nominal .3 minimum wattage change before I notice a difference in vapor volume or taste.

2) I take your apparently tongue-in-cheek question to heart because the readings I get for resistance on any istick 30 are consistently higher than what is displayed by either of the Defender 50s in daily use. For most new 1.5 ohm dual coils, my sweet spot with any of the Air tanks is 8.4 watts. With the Defenders, ceteris paribus, it's between 7.5 and 8 watts. Either the sensing devices, the software, or even the displays, or some combination of these varies from mod to mod.
Yes the displays arent calibrated and traceable to the national bureau of standards for sure lol
 

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Yes the displays arent calibrated and traceable to the national bureau of standards for sure lol
Proving your point:
-new 1.2 ohm cotton coil. (had them two weeks. 'bout time to try one.). GS-Ir Ms
-Fully charged Defender 50 readings: 1.13 ohms, 7.8 w, 3.0 v before vaping. After a long draw, 1.15 fluctuating to 1.16 ohms.
-Put same tank on a fully charged iStick 30. Readings: 1.3 ohms, 8.4 w, 3.3 v

Near as my taste buds can tell, same vape.

Which display is more accurate? No idea. Defender sensing is more sensitive, not necessarily more accurate.
 

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Proving your point:
-new 1.2 ohm cotton coil. (had them two weeks. 'bout time to try one.). GS-Ir Ms
-Fully charged Defender 50 readings: 1.13 ohms, 7.8 w, 3.0 v before vaping. After a long draw, 1.15 fluctuating to 1.16 ohms.
-Put same tank on a fully charged iStick 30. Readings: 1.3 ohms, 8.4 w, 3.3 v

Near as my taste buds can tell, same vape.

Which display is more accurate? No idea. Defender sensing is more sensitive, not necessarily more accurate.
The Defender is reading too low and the istick is reading too high. Each off about the same amount. The correct resistance is about 1.23ohms. They should both be reading about 8.1w/3.16v
 
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