Eleaf iStick "pico"

[OhTheAgony]

Drip tip flavour concentration. Nice.

So the MTL kit is extra then? I wonder if FT even sells the MTL kit... or if it's included in the FT BachNano bundle.

There's a term for that? lol. It does make my sweet banana creampie even sweeter now that you mention it. I do it more to stop me from sucking up the entire tank in just 3 hits or so though. I'm pg sensitive but there's still pg in my flavoring so I'm keeping my juice consumption down to prevent an inflamed throat and mouth, or worse

Yeah it is optional, I believe it is 4,50 US$ or something close to that.

Not sure about availability, my local retailer doesn't have them yet neither (spare o-rings seem hard to find as well).

I do know Heavengifts has them because that's where mine came from but I didn't buy it, I won the Nano in a contest and they included the MTL kit with the price. I do not see it listed on their website but perhaps you can send them an email if you want one?

 

[davevape55]

Pico with Serpent mini.

 

[Heartsdelight]

Pico with Serpent mini. View attachment 553617

Wow that drip tip is amazing! Where did you purchase from? I like! A lot!

 

[davevape55]

Wow that drip tip is amazing! Where did you purchase from? I like! A lot!

Trying to remember. It was either paxodriptips or another large custom tip supplier on eBay.This maybe was $20 a little to much. I suggest getting from paxodriptips, he has many to choose from at $15 and can size it for you. He's on eBay and I have 10 from him.

 

[MadVLN]

This too. Aromamizer V2. (This one's a well made clone.) Ugly but I'm loving it.

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this combo is what i use the most on my pico.

 

[MadVLN]

Starting to hope that eLeaf sealed the 510 connector right... Today's rewick of the GM made it start dumping juice around again. Most of it went into the channels around the 510 pin thankfully, but a drop or two did dribble down *gasp*.

Back to the wicking drawing board. It does make you understand why TrollDragon would throw the 510 heatsink under his GM though.

Saw a pic of a Diablo RTA on a Pico up on FT, really not bad. Now thinking of getting one just for the velodeck and side AFC intakes (so it'll... y'know... leak to the sides).

Here's the pic. I wonder if the owner is up on here.

And I'm totally digging the hard industrial looks of that Aromaniser too.

i'm not the owner of that, but i do have the pico and 2 Diablo RTA clones. did you have a question about them?

 

[eiraku]

i'm not the owner of that, but i do have the pico and 2 Diablo RTA clones. did you have a question about them?

Yeah... coming from the wick-fussy leakfest that is the GMv2 (which I do still love to bits nonetheless), I'm curious about a couple of things.

*And I have to apologise beforehand because this is gonna get pretty long*

1) Does the Diablo leak?

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I mean, by basic design it's about the same as the GM line (aka the Gob and the Zephyrus) so I can't expect it to NOT leak at all... But as long as it's better than the GMv2, which can be *extremely* leaky.

Also, does it leak after refills?

2) Is it hard to wick?

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Again, does it need GM levels of precision? Does it need the wicks tucked just right or does it not really care?

2) How's the flavor like?

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GM-alike design so I'm hoping it's about the same... though the chamber does look a tad bigger.

3) Does it do decent MTL with the airflow turned down?

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Sure, it's built for dual coils so I don't expect it to be capable of Kayfun-level MTL. Just a bit of loose MTL/RDL is probably good enough for me.

4) Is a single-coil build possible?

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Velodeck, so I expect at least *building* a single-coil on it wouldn't be a problem... but unlike the GMv2 it doesn't have a plug to shut the 2nd coil AF hole nor the juice channels so I wonder if one can manage a single-coil build on it nonetheless - for emergencies.

5) AFC: Adjustable in use?

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Cause somebody said that you need it unmounted to adjust the AFC.

6) Post screws: Flathead or hex?

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Cause... you know. I don't really carry around small hex drivers in my pockets... yet. If hex, any idea if you can replace the screws with flats from some other RTA maybe?

Not that it really matters though, I can always get a tiny hex driver for my EDC kit anyway.

Really, really sorry that I have so many questions on the thing, but it would really help before I decide to pull the trigger on my FT cart.

Again, not that I don't love my GMv2... it's just that going through a few hours, 2-3 pads of KGD and a couple MLs of wasted juice every time I try to get the wicking right does get... tiring... sometimes.

 

[MadVLN]

Yeah... coming from the wick-fussy leakfest that is the GMv2 (which I do still love to bits nonetheless), I'm curious about a couple of things.

*And I have to apologise beforehand because this is gonna get pretty long*

1) Does the Diablo leak?

Spoiler

I mean, by basic design it's about the same as the GM line (aka the Gob and the Zephyrus) so I can't expect it to NOT leak at all... But as long as it's better than the GMv2, which can be *extremely* leaky.

Also, does it leak after refills?

2) Is it hard to wick?

Spoiler

Again, does it need GM levels of precision? Does it need the wicks tucked just right or does it not really care?

2) How's the flavor like?

Spoiler

GM-alike design so I'm hoping it's about the same... though the chamber does look a tad bigger.

3) Does it do decent MTL with the airflow turned down?

Spoiler

Sure, it's built for dual coils so I don't expect it to be capable of Kayfun-level MTL. Just a bit of loose MTL/RDL is probably good enough for me.

4) Is a single-coil build possible?

Spoiler

Velodeck, so I expect at least *building* a single-coil on it wouldn't be a problem... but unlike the GMv2 it doesn't have a plug to shut the 2nd coil AF hole nor the juice channels so I wonder if one can manage a single-coil build on it nonetheless - for emergencies.

5) AFC: Adjustable in use?

Spoiler

Cause somebody said that you need it unmounted to adjust the AFC.

6) Post screws: Flathead or hex?

Spoiler

Cause... you know. I don't really carry around small hex drivers in my pockets... yet. If hex, any idea if you can replace the screws with flats from somewhere else?

Really sorry that I have so many questions on the thing, but it would really help before I decide to pull the trigger on my FT cart.

1. Sometimes it leaks after topfill and screwing the cap on. Depends on wicking.

2. It took a few times to get the wicking right. Too little wick, you get leaking on refills. Too much wick, dry hits. Gotta find that happy medium.

2B. Flavor and vapor production are pretty awesome. Top notch. Of course a lot of this is build dependent.

3. Do not recommend for MTL. You can tune the air a fair amount, but if you're looking for MTL experience, I would look elsewhere.

4. Like your spoiler says, no plug for airhole. I suppose you could mod one, but sorta like my opinion on MTL.....if you are looking for a single coil atty, this isn't a good one. In an emergency, I suppose it would probably work, but not optimally.

5. You can adjust the AFC on the fly. You do not need to remove. You may have to loosen it a hair if you have it tightened down firmly, but I haven't had to.

6. If I remember right, they are hex heads. I really haven't used mine since I picked up the Moonshot and Boreas RTAs.

 

[MadVLN]

just found an older pic of mine. hex head confirmed.

 

[eiraku]

1. Sometimes it leaks after topfill and screwing the cap on. Depends on wicking.

2. It took a few times to get the wicking right. Too little wick, you get leaking on refills. Too much wick, dry hits. Gotta find that happy medium.

2B. Flavor and vapor production are pretty awesome. Top notch. Of course a lot of this is build dependent.

3. Do not recommend for MTL. You can tune the air a fair amount, but if you're looking for MTL experience, I would look elsewhere.

4. Like your spoiler says, no plug for airhole. I suppose you could mod one, but sorta like my opinion on MTL.....if you are looking for a single coil atty, this isn't a good one. In an emergency, I suppose it would probably work, but not optimally.

5. You can adjust the AFC on the fly. You do not need to remove. You may have to loosen it a hair if you have it tightened down firmly, but I haven't had to.

6. If I remember right, they are hex heads. I really haven't used mine since I picked up the Moonshot and Boreas RTAs.

Wow... awesome instant reply that is very much appreciated (especially that deck pic). Thanks!

That pretty much settles whatever questions I had about the Diablo then... It pretty much sounds a slightly bigger GMv2 with a velodeck and leaks that flow out the side (rather than straight down like the GMv2).

Sounds good enough for me... *rushes back to FT to checkout cart*

Oh another thing, does anybody do SS TC builds on the GMv2 or Diablo? Does either work well with SS dual-coils? Does SS TC work all that well with the Pico to begin with?

My Google-fu only came up with one guy using Ni in his GMv1, though it did work rather well seems like... but of course that wasn't on a Pico.

 

[TheWestPole]

Looks nice. How's the vape. Good flavor?

Yes. Though I'm using a big twisted triple single coil in the center ATM. Flavor is probably best with a dual so the air comes right into to the coils.

 

[MadVLN]

Wow... awesome instant reply that is very much appreciated (especially that deck pic). Thanks!

That pretty much settles whatever questions I had about the Diablo then... It pretty much sounds a slightly bigger GMv2 with a velodeck and leaks that flow out the side (rather than straight down like the GMv2).

Sounds good enough for me... *rushes back to FT to checkout cart*

Oh another thing, does anybody do SS TC builds on the GMv2 or Diablo? Does either work well with SS dual-coils? Does SS TC work all that well with the Pico to begin with?

My Google-fu only came up with one guy using Ni in his GMv1, though it did work rather well seems like... but of course that wasn't on a Pico.

yah, one of my go-to tanks of 2015 was the original Gob mini. the diablo is like a beefed up gob mini. bigger build deck and juice channels. needs more wicking than the gob mini tho. in my goblin i used to cut my wicks really short and angled, not so much with the Diablo. the AFC plate on the diablo is nice because you don't get as much condensation as you do you with the Gob.

i have done several SS316L builds on my Diablos. my SS Diablo has clapton build, my black Diablo has SS316L build. and SS TC works awesome in the Pico. very smooth and feels pretty accurate compared to my istick tc100w and Sigelei 213w.

 

[Heartsdelight]

Trying to remember. It was either paxodriptips or another large custom tip supplier on eBay.This maybe was $20 a little to much. I suggest getting from paxodriptips, he has many to choose from at $15 and can size it for you. He's on eBay and I have 10 from him.

Thanks!

 

[LarryPer]

Starting to hope that eLeaf sealed the 510 connector right... Today's rewick of the GM made it start dumping juice around again. Most of it went into the channels around the 510 pin thankfully, but a drop or two did dribble down *gasp*.

Back to the wicking drawing board. It does make you understand why TrollDragon would throw the 510 heatsink under his GM though.

Saw a pic of a Diablo RTA on a Pico up on FT, really not bad. Now thinking of getting one just for the velodeck and side AFC intakes (so it'll... y'know... leak to the sides).

Here's the pic. I wonder if the owner is up on here.

And I'm totally digging the hard industrial looks of that Aromaniser too.

The pin is floating type so I don't think its sealed

 

[Nailz]

The wife's pico's with kayfun mini v3's on them

 

[sawlight]

The wife's pico's with kayfun mini v3's on them

I keep looking at them and trying to figure out what's "mini" about them? Is that just me?

 

[Nailz]

I keep looking at them and trying to figure out what's "mini" about them? Is that just me?

They are only 19mm diameter, mini not related to the height of the tank, even though it is not tall either.

 

[sawlight]

They are only 19mm diameter, mini not related to the height of the tank, even though it is not tall either.

Ahhhh! Thank you sir!

 

[eiraku]

yah, one of my go-to tanks of 2015 was the original Gob mini. the diablo is like a beefed up gob mini. bigger build deck and juice channels. needs more wicking than the gob mini tho. in my goblin i used to cut my wicks really short and angled, not so much with the Diablo. the AFC plate on the diablo is nice because you don't get as much condensation as you do you with the Gob.

i have done several SS316L builds on my Diablos. my SS Diablo has clapton build, my black Diablo has SS316L build. and SS TC works awesome in the Pico. very smooth and feels pretty accurate compared to my istick tc100w and Sigelei 213w.

Again, very much appreciated, kind sir.

Now scouring FT for 361L wire and precoiled 316L claps to play with on the Diablo's velodecks.

That "the Pico has more accurate SS TC than the 213W" comment intrigues me as I'm also somewhat interested in the 213W as a possible future purchase.

How do you otherwise like your 213W compared to the Pico?

I keep looking at them and trying to figure out what's "mini" about them? Is that just me?

There was a time, way back when, when the "Mini" version of something usually meant that they were longer AND thinner (aka Kayfun Mini, Taifun GS). Nowadays "mini" usually just means chopped up shortened tanks lol.

 

[Jim_ MDP]

I had the 0.5ohm coil between 25-30watts.

I've also come across a small problem using the stock Melo 3 mini tank this evening.

If I leave the tank connected to the mod whilst charging the heat from the 18650 battery charging heats up my e-liquid and it leaks, leaks the entire tank from somewhere. And I'm not entirely sure on the ratio of my juice as I have it imported.

Its quite cool here as well in Australia, we're heading into Winter.

For now I will remove the tank, and absolutely love the entire unit regardless.

Sorry about the heat build-up. Other than checking the charge current with an in-line meter, I don't charge mine internally so I can't say what's normal on this mod.

For the 0.5 Melo head... kinda see the problem there, eh?
It is counter-intuitive but that 0.5 must just have a seriously larger mass of wire than the 0.3.

It's gonna want at least 40w/50w just to get rollin' in a reasonable time, and to really get cookin'... it's gonna need more than the Pico has to offer.

Go to the 0.3 while you wait for an RBA head and work up to about 40w as a test.
If it's still slow, and not too hot for your preference, take it higher... it's just mAhs.

And get a supply of juice laid up beforehand... even the 0.3 is thirsty as hell.
Thank FSM for Top-Fill... 2ml goes fast.