Eleaf iStick "pico"

[eLicky]

I've always called the feature on my xCube "initial hit strength" but "buck and boost" works.

If it hasn't changed, and you're interested in the specifics... it adjusts the wattage (even in TC) for the first two seconds by a set percentage from selected for the five levels.

-15%, -10%, 0, +10%, +15%.

That it.

Thank you very much for explaining.

 

[Garnoch]

Does a normal Triton coil even work in the Melo? They look HUGE.

As for the other coils, the Asipire BVC coils are the same size as the Atlantis-compatible stuff right? I wonder if I can use 'em in my CS eGrip (the normal BVC works with some mods).

Oh, and just got new joyetech pals to accompany the Pico and my long suffering mech off a local Vape Expo:

The VTC Mini and the eGrip OLED (with CS Base) both at clearance prices. Passed off my 60W to my father to help him "restart" vaping.

Nice stash!

Yeah the Triton/Atlantis/Melo/cCell coils will all work in the Melo III Mini. I run the Triton Clapton .5 coils in mine.
Neither the small BVC coils nor the Nautilus BVC/Triton Mini coils will work though.

 

[rocketman29]

I am a bit of a removable battery noob and just got the Pico.

All I have is Sammy 25Rs. Do I need to be concerned about the 0.3 kanthal coil that came with the M3M or a 0.15Ni coil I might want to use in the STM or GS Tank.

Yes, wattage mode w/ kanthal, TC mode with Ni.

 

[Carnage9270]

I am a bit of a removable battery noob and just got the Pico.

All I have is Sammy 25Rs. Do I need to be concerned about the 0.3 kanthal coil that came with the M3M or a 0.15Ni coil I might want to use in the STM or GS Tank.

Yes, wattage mode w/ kanthal, TC mode with Ni.

Unfortunately I can't find what the max input current is for this board. Don't think they are willing to release that

 

[Steven Pye]

Rocketman29- I tend to be a man of caution, if it was me I would prefer a battery that was a 30amp battery

 

[Carnage9270]

There's no way the pico draws that much power from the battery. 20amp should be more than enough.
#BoostCircuitry

 

[USMCotaku]

There's no way the pico draws that much power from the battery. 20amp should be more than enough.
#BoostCircuitry

Not if you are running at 75 watts and the battery its down to around 25%

Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping

 

[Carnage9270]

Not if you are running at 75 watts and the battery its down to around 25%

Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping

The board still has a maximum current draw. DNA 200's are 23amps if I remember correctly.

 

[USMCotaku]

The board still has a maximum current draw. DNA 200's are 23amps if I remember correctly.

apples and oranges my friend....The DNA200 is bucking 3 cells, while the pico is a single cell boosting. For the Pico to be able to deliver 75 watts, on say a .3 ohm coil, at the lower end of the battery, you are at around 24+ amps draw, assuming a decent 95% accuracy on the board. Without that amp draw...you don't have the 75 watts. Can you push a 20 amp battery to 24 amps, well...you could, but it wouldn't be advisable.

 

[Steven Pye]

perhaps Eleaf is covering their ..., but they say above 25A

Parameter:
For iStick Pico:
Size: 45mm*23mm*70.5mm
Thread type: 510 thread
Cell type: High-rate 18650 cell
Cell type: (Continuous discharge current should be above 25A)
Output mode: VW/Bypass/TC(Ni,Ti,SS,TCR-M1,M2,M3) mode
Output wattage: 1-75W
Resistance range: 0.05-1.5ohm (TC modes)
Resistance range: 0.1-3.5ohm (VW/Bypass

 

[USMCotaku]

perhaps Eleaf is covering their ..., but they say above 25A

Parameter:
For iStick Pico:
Size: 45mm*23mm*70.5mm
Thread type: 510 thread
Cell type: High-rate 18650 cell
Cell type: (Continuous discharge current should be above 25A)
Output mode: VW/Bypass/TC(Ni,Ti,SS,TCR-M1,M2,M3) mode
Output wattage: 1-75W
Resistance range: 0.05-1.5ohm (TC modes)
Resistance range: 0.1-3.5ohm (VW/Bypass

see my post above

 

[Mactavish]

The board still has a maximum current draw. DNA 200's are 23amps if I remember correctly.

You are correct. 23 amps. on my VS DNA200.

Mooches latest "recommended" 18650 battery chart is worth looking at if looking for new batteries. Finding TRUE 30 amp bats is more rare.

Running .3 ohm coils on the Pico is no problem with 20 amp bats. I use both VTC 4's & 5's. Not sure I'd want to run .15 ohm builds, battery life would suffer greatly, BUT as the OP stated, that would be a nickel TC build, and wattage could be lower. I don't touch nickel myself, so my titanium builds don't get much lower then .25 ohms, and work perfectly on the Pico, I simply keep my watts at 35w, temperture set to juice, approx. 425-475 F. After initial firing watts go down even further while maintaining temp.

 

[USMCotaku]

You are correct. 23 amps. on my VS DNA200.

Mooches latest "recommended" 18650 battery chart is worth looking at if looking for new batteries. Finding TRUE 30 amp bats is more rare.

Running .3 ohm coils on the Pico is no problem with 20 amp bats. I use both VTC 4's & 5's. Not sure I'd want to run .15 ohm builds, battery life would suffer greatly, BUT as the OP stated, that would be a nickel TC build, and wattage could be lower. I don't touch nickel myself, so my titanium builds don't get much lower then .25 ohms, and work perfectly on the Pico, I simply keep my watts at 35w, temperture set to juice, approx. 425-475 F. After initial firing watts go down even further while maintaining temp.

I can't like this post without a disclaimer of a wattage limit keeping the amp draw below the 20 amp rating of the battery...safety first.

 

[pineappledan]

OK, so I've been a busy boy! Decked out my piko today!

got a silicone skin, $2.22 Protective Silicone Sleeve Case for Eleaf iStick Pico 75W Mod at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
Goblin mini colored glass, fits melo3 just fine,
$1.95 Authentic Vapesoon Glass Tank for Goblin Mini RTA Atomizer at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
maybe microns shorter but absolutely nothing to wory about.
Silicone drip tip so I don't knock my teeth out driving,
$1.69 Silicone Round Mouth 510 Drip Tip (10-Pack) - 25mm / green at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
and ecr.
$2.03 Authentic Eleaf MELO 2/iJust 2 Replacement ECR Coil Head - 1ohm(20-30W) at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
And yes I suffer from a tremor sort for the jiggly pictures!

 

[TrollDragon]

We have been using 25R's and the likes for the past year in all kinds or VW & TC mods. The WeeLeaf Pico comes out and everyone is loosing their mind about using 25R's in it, suggesting we get 30A batteries and such...

I don't think he is going to be vaping the Melo 3 at 75W.

 

[Mactavish]

We have been using 25R's and the likes for the past year in all kinds or VW & TC mods. The WeeLeaf Pico comes out and everyone is loosing their mind about using 25R's in it, suggesting we get 30A batteries and such...

I don't think he is going to be vaping the Melo 3 at 75W.

Agreed, if anyone is planning on running close to the 75 watt max of the Pico, they bought the wrong mod. My VTC 4's are true 23 amps, while the VTC 5's are true 20 amps. I don't run high watts, but as USMCotaku says, "safety first", so those that want or need to run HIGH watts, should certainly get an Ohms Law app, or seek the same info online. I have no need for unicorn 30 amp 18650's.

 

[rocketman29]

Didn't mean to get you guys riled up.

I just went and educated myself on regulated-mod battery safety. Did not know that ohms means nothing to a regulated mod. Just your watt setting and remaining volts left in the battery (and chip efficiency).

At 50W and 3.1 volts remaining in the battery it is pushing 17.92 Amps (90% efficiency)

Questions:

Does anyone know the efficiency of this mod?

What is the volt cutoff? Does it calculate it under drain?

 

[sawlight]

I'm using VCT5's and feel just fine about it.

 

[TrollDragon]

I only use mine in TC with SS316L, so I don't really pay any attention to the specs at 440F/35W . I bought it for using it that way and the HG2 I have in it last a good long time.

There is a pair of VTC 4's in my Cuboid running at 80W and a pair of 25R5's in my VT133.

 

[Carnage9270]

Didn't mean to get you guys riled up.

I just went and educated myself on regulated-mod battery safety. Did not know that ohms means nothing to a regulated mod. Just your watt setting and remaining volts left in the battery (and chip efficiency).

At 50W and 3.1 volts remaining in the battery it is pushing 17.92 Amps (90% efficiency)

Questions:

Does anyone know the efficiency of this mod?

What is the volt cutoff? Does it calculate it under drain?

But it's not pushing anything. The chip on the board pulls and it has a cap to how much it can pull, regardless of battery voltage. That's why I mentioned the dna board, they list it's maximum current draw, wasn't meant to compare apples to oranges. I highly doubt the Pico will pull high amps, just not a design of the chip. Check out djlsbvapes review of it with the charts. It's not a high current puller, it starts to fall off at high wattages and low ohms.