What, you want me to start handing them out like they don't really mean anything?
i'm so new to the forums i thought you were joking about bonus points. pm me about the facts
or post a reply so other new members will know.
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i'm so new to the forums i thought you were joking about bonus points. pm me about the facts
or post a reply so other new members will know.
Speak for yourself. I plan to live forever.
Bonus geek points if you recognize where that line's from.
What we leave behind is not as important as how we've lived. After all Number One, we're only mortal.
Hey Leaford
I boldly went where everyone has gone before and looked it up, so guess I didn't earn the geek points. But I want 'em cos of my Kirkish Kobayashi Maru workround...
I boldly went where everyone has gone before and looked it up, so guess I didn't earn the geek points. But I want 'em cos of my Kirkish Kobayashi Maru workround...
Pop quiz: How many of these remarks have we all made when we were smokers:
1. Well, I have to die of something.
2. I might as well live a happy life and cigarettes make me happy.
3. Who wants to spend the last years of life in a nursing home anyhow. I'd rather go quick.
4. Smoking is my only vice.
5. I deserve the feeling smoking gives me. It's my reward.
6. All those health studies are a bunch of junk science from people paid off by special interests to make tobacco look bad.
7. Nobody tells ME what to do! If I want to smoke, I'll smoke and to hell with them.
Any of that sound like who we used to be, before we got smart, discovered far safer alternatives to inhaling tobacco smoke, and vowed to find a healthier way to use a substance we enjoy? There's nothing GOOD that can be said about sucking tobacco's cancer-causing smoke into our lungs.
A few more questions, please:
1. How old is old enough?
2. How does life without lung function, the body in constant pain, unable to exhale a breath, sound?
3. How about coughing so hard that you end up faint, holding a bloody tissue in your hand?
4. How about an immune system so compromised that if cancer doesn't kill you, the first virus that enters your body will?
5. Is 67 old enough? That's how old BishyBob's grandmother, now facing death from lung cancer, is. He tells us in another post that she suffers COPD, emphysema, all the ravages of an adulthood spent smoking cigarettes. She's 67. THAT IS TOO YOUNG TO DIE. There is nothing on earth worth throwing away good, healthy, productive later years. It's tragic is what it is. My heart goes out to him and her.
Final question:
6. How many of us wish we had never smoked that first cigarette? We were dumb asses then, weren't we, but we don't have to remain that way. We know better now.
Now, we're all still free to make personal decisions. E-smoking is a smart decision, I believe. Getting off nicotine is even smarter, but certainly not easy for many, myself included. Just don't gloss over the very real dangers of cigarette smoking, as if it were just another of life's daily risks. It's a fool's choice. It's no longer glamorous or smart to smoke cigarettes. The world knows that and smokers who refuse to acknowledge it are simply living in fear of not being able to satisfy their addiction. They live in denial. It's a deadly lie from the dark side of the brain. It's why tobacco is called the Demon Weed.
Sorry, but the way this thread went into a defense of cigarettes got to me. Whatever we do, do it with enlightenment.
1. Well, I have to die of something.
2. I might as well live a happy life and cigarettes make me happy.
3. Who wants to spend the last years of life in a nursing home anyhow. I'd rather go quick.
4. Smoking is my only vice.
5. I deserve the feeling smoking gives me. It's my reward.
6. All those health studies are a bunch of junk science from people paid off by special interests to make tobacco look bad.
7. Nobody tells ME what to do! If I want to smoke, I'll smoke and to hell with them.
Any of that sound like who we used to be, before we got smart, discovered far safer alternatives to inhaling tobacco smoke, and vowed to find a healthier way to use a substance we enjoy? There's nothing GOOD that can be said about sucking tobacco's cancer-causing smoke into our lungs.
A few more questions, please:
1. How old is old enough?
2. How does life without lung function, the body in constant pain, unable to exhale a breath, sound?
3. How about coughing so hard that you end up faint, holding a bloody tissue in your hand?
4. How about an immune system so compromised that if cancer doesn't kill you, the first virus that enters your body will?
5. Is 67 old enough? That's how old BishyBob's grandmother, now facing death from lung cancer, is. He tells us in another post that she suffers COPD, emphysema, all the ravages of an adulthood spent smoking cigarettes. She's 67. THAT IS TOO YOUNG TO DIE. There is nothing on earth worth throwing away good, healthy, productive later years. It's tragic is what it is. My heart goes out to him and her.
Final question:
6. How many of us wish we had never smoked that first cigarette? We were dumb asses then, weren't we, but we don't have to remain that way. We know better now.
Now, we're all still free to make personal decisions. E-smoking is a smart decision, I believe. Getting off nicotine is even smarter, but certainly not easy for many, myself included. Just don't gloss over the very real dangers of cigarette smoking, as if it were just another of life's daily risks. It's a fool's choice. It's no longer glamorous or smart to smoke cigarettes. The world knows that and smokers who refuse to acknowledge it are simply living in fear of not being able to satisfy their addiction. They live in denial. It's a deadly lie from the dark side of the brain. It's why tobacco is called the Demon Weed.
Sorry, but the way this thread went into a defense of cigarettes got to me. Whatever we do, do it with enlightenment.
Speak for yourself. I plan to live forever.
Bonus geek points if you recognize where that line's from.
well im a geek too leaford.
startrek the next generation.
can i have my points now?
I was just joking.
They really don't mean anything. Here, have 1,000,000,000 bonus points!
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Dong-ding-ding! We haaave a Winnnnnnaaaahhh!!!! It was from Riker to Picard near the end of Star Trek: Generations.What we leave behind is not as important as how we've lived. After all Number One, we're only mortal.
But, sorry, Windy, I already gave the points to Values.
I thought I had some more lying about, but can't seem to find them now.
I am afraid all geek points are on backorder, Mr Darcy. Values plumb cleaned me out.well im a geek too leaford.
startrek the next generation.
can i have my points now?
I am afraid all geek points are on backorder, Mr Darcy. Values plumb cleaned me out.
ok,obviously we're all geeks anyway...
bring back Firefly!
I don't understand T-Bob. Who's defending cigarettes? I must be missing it.
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Dong-ding-ding! We haaave a Winnnnnnaaaahhh!!!! It was from Riker to Picard near the end of Star Trek: Generations.
But, sorry, Windy, I already gave the points to Values.
I really need those points, leaford. Please keep looking!
Karen, go back a page before my post. One particular post set me off as flawed thinking, then there were a bunch of joking posts that went up before I finished editing my diatribe and returned the thread to fun. Geez, I loved cigarettes for a long, long time, but there is no defense for using them other than helpless addiction. Their known hazards are one reason I love e-cigarettes, unknowns and all.
Oh, okay...I gotcha.
And I agree.
April 28th is the last day I touched a real cigarette. I began using e-cigs when my Njoy arrived that day at 5 pm. And I'm never looking back.
What about you?
And I agree.
April 28th is the last day I touched a real cigarette. I began using e-cigs when my Njoy arrived that day at 5 pm. And I'm never looking back.
What about you?
Congrats! I am exactly 2 days away from not smoking a cigarette for one year. I quit using snus, then bought my first e-smoking pipe and cigar in January 2008. Loved them and still have an e-cig with me at all times. The pen style from Meltrex has proven the best of the bunch so far.
You rock, Rachel. We are the few, the proud, the ... E-Successes!
LOL - I like that. You are only 2 days away from a major milestone. Congrats...
Well yeah. I don't think anyone is fooling themselves about the dangers inherent in this silly-... behavior we indulge in. There's a lot of defiant rhetoric (lots from me) but I'm aiming at the puritan nay-sayers, not the weed, and that's legitimate (at least in my view). Booze, sugar, gluttony, driving a motorsickle fast - any of those would fit your list, Bob. Nothing fun is any good for ya.
I'm hugely aware I shouldn't have started smoking, but I did. The consequences are probably lethal (unless I'm lucky enough not to have the proto-oncogene for tobacco carcinogens in my genetic salad). I'm trying to quit but the prognosis ain't good. I like it too much.
I don't force my views on other people (we had national murder over here about fox-hunting but I could give a hoot - I have no opinion one way or the other) and I really resent having others' opinions forced on me. Particularly when they came looking for me in my comfortable smokey drinking hole, colonised the place, then abandoned it as soon as they'd exorcised me.
I know in intimate and excruciating detail what those people are against. I couldn't fill the back of a stamp with what they're for.
whoo - deeper than usual for me. Sorry about that.
Emp
I'm hugely aware I shouldn't have started smoking, but I did. The consequences are probably lethal (unless I'm lucky enough not to have the proto-oncogene for tobacco carcinogens in my genetic salad). I'm trying to quit but the prognosis ain't good. I like it too much.
I don't force my views on other people (we had national murder over here about fox-hunting but I could give a hoot - I have no opinion one way or the other) and I really resent having others' opinions forced on me. Particularly when they came looking for me in my comfortable smokey drinking hole, colonised the place, then abandoned it as soon as they'd exorcised me.
I know in intimate and excruciating detail what those people are against. I couldn't fill the back of a stamp with what they're for.
whoo - deeper than usual for me. Sorry about that.
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