Eploding Batteries - What to buy?

[rags527]

Hi everyone!

Off late I have seen several reports of ecig batteries exploding either in the pocket or while in use. Although these cases are still few, to me, their frequency seems to be increasing.

I wanted to buy a new kit, and in light of these cases I am very confused, and need help.

I'm looking for a cig-a-like, as I find them easy to carry around. Any size will do as long as it fits in a shirt pocket. I'm a mouth to lung smoker, so please also advise on the right tank.

I'd appreciate your advice on which products in your experience are the correct ones to buy and safer in terms of battery safety.

Thank you.

 

[r77r7r]

Many of the earlier explosions and fires were caused by cigalikes, so don't think they are safer. Mostly the bad chargers.

No need to fear with a little education and common sense.

 

[r77r7r]

Are you going to be ordering from China then?

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

Some additional definition is, perhaps, needed before proceeding.

Devices referred to as cigalikes are generally those that look and feel like a cigarette. These are mainly found in grocery, convenience, and tobacco stores. They are primarily manufactured by big tobacco. Small batteries and typically non-refillable cartomizers comprise most of these kits.

Next up the ladder are eGo kits... sometimes called vaoe pens. These are larger than cigalikes, but the trade off in size is worth it for the refillable, if sometimes still disposable, tanks, and generally longer battery life. Many of these also feature replaceable coils. These can sometime be found in grocery and convenience stores, and in most vape shops.

For the more part, both of those are MTL vapes.

There are larger pen or tube style devices that are more cigar sized, but - generally speaking - the larger you go, a more powerful the atomizer is included. That's not to say anatomizer more suited to MTL vaping could not be used... just that it's usually not included.

As a basic beginner kit, I do not mind recommending the Kanger Evod or Top Evod kits... I would avoid most all of the cigalikes...

As far as explosions are concerned, almost all of them are caused by the misuse of much higher powered batteries. Placing ANY battery, unprotected, in a situation where it can come in contact with other metalic items and create a hard short is dangerous. Doing so with a high-powered li Ion battery is foolish. These injuries you're reading about are very nearly all caused by user error in handling batteries.much more powerful than those used in the eGo and Cigalike devices.mentioned above.

That's not to say caution should not be used. I applaud your awareness of the situation! For safety sake, never charge a battery with an overpowered charger. Using a 2.5 amp fast charger with a device designed to accommodate a .5 amp charge could lead to problems... Also, never leave a battery charging unattended.

Hope this helps...



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[defdock]

As far as explosions are concerned, almost all of them are caused by the misuse of much higher powered batteries. Placing ANY battery, unprotected, in a situation where it can come in contact with other metalic items and create a hard short is dangerous. Doing so with a high-powered li Ion battery is foolish. These injuries you're reading about are very nearly all caused by user error in handling batteries.much more powerful than those used in the eGo and Cigalike devices.mentioned above.

That's not to say caution should not be used. I applaud your awareness of the situation! For safety sake, never charge a battery with an overpowered charger. Using a 2.5 amp fast charger with a device designed to accommodate a .5 amp charge could lead to problems... Also, never leave a battery charging unattended.

kudos.



on topic with OP, cig-a-likes (over the years) still seam like they are meant to fail(burn liquid, ect). i would suggest looking at an ego setup, as small as it gets - possibly a 400mah ego, and a suitable/easy maintenance tank. recently i bought both my parents, aunt, and uncle an "ugo-t" battery that has micro usb charging along with a evod tank to complete the set. they havent had any issues yet. my aunt loves it since its the only "easy to charge" ecigarette shes every used, and her husband loves the fact the tank is fillable with whatever he wants(he used to buy cherry cartomizers for his bluecig since "the flavor selection sucks")

 

[Winchester]

Hi and Welcome!
Do your self a favor buy a regulated mod. You can get a great starter kit a good charger and 3 good batteries. You get a great setup for around $100.00. When I started I wasted a lot of money on those pen type ecigs. When I got on EFC 4 years ago I got good advice from people who wanted to help not sell me a bunch of junk that did nothing but make mad.

 

[frosc]

Aspire - Aspire Premium kit consisting of nautilus mini and VV+ battery

eGo ONE - Joyetech

 

[Canadian_Vaper]

UD Tidus, Probably the safest, childproof starter kit I've seen, while it's bigger than a cigalike it definitely suits your needs..

A car quite literally drove over my wifes and the glass didn't even break...

 

[Thumpszilla]

There are many great options on the market. I quit smoking after 24 years and 3 packs a day using an ego kit. You will love it hands down over a cigalike. There are a number of tanks that will match up in diameter to the ego and various lengths of ego which give different amounts of battery life. If you are a casual smoker then a 250mah will do you fine and is less than the length of a cig and about the diameter of a cigar. Going this route also gives you an almost infinite amount of juice flavor options. My final advice is we can give you all kinds of opinions but at a local vape shop they can put those options in your hand. Then you can make a more informed decision as to what will fit your needs. Good luck on your journey into vaping and welcome to the forum.

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[Throttlehead]

Aspire PockeX is a great starter.

 

[Bunnykiller]

its the media hyping up the stories.... for example...

over 80,000 people get mangled by lawn mowers per year in the US... and how many did you hear about in the news??

telephones, I pads, handheld power tools, flashlights all blow up too, but you hear very little about those items.
E-cig batteries have been made out to be a demon, a monster of the group... even tho many of the other items use the same battery.

 

[sofarsogood]

Hi everyone!

Off late I have seen several reports of ecig batteries exploding either in the pocket or while in use. Although these cases are still few, to me, their frequency seems to be increasing.

I wanted to buy a new kit, and in light of these cases I am very confused, and need help.

I'm looking for a cig-a-like, as I find them easy to carry around. Any size will do as long as it fits in a shirt pocket. I'm a mouth to lung smoker, so please also advise on the right tank.

I'd appreciate your advice on which products in your experience are the correct ones to buy and safer in terms of battery safety.

Thank you.

When most any Li battery is hard shorted it's liable to overheat and burn violently. Nearly all the injury reports involve either miss handled mechanical mods or mishanded loose batteries with unprotected terminals. A third possibility would be using replacable batteries in a regulated mod that are pushed beyond their ability. I have not noticed a story about someone being injured by a cigalike but may be it's happened. It's also hard to find a story about some one injured by mods with built in batteries.

 

[gandymarsh]

Welcome to ECF!

I agree that you'd be happier with an Evod starter kit with 2 batteries, 2 tanks and charger. Then you will need to buy some e-liquid to fill the tank. The 650 mah batteries are very short.

 

[mongo74]

Will you be ordering from Pure Vapors or from China? (Gearbest/Elegomall)

The primary cause of vaping explosions is lack of information/knowledge of proper safe handling procedures of 18650 batteries. Secondary causes can be attributed to misuse of mechanical devices (using atomizers with 510 pins in direct to battery mods that do not protrude far enough causing hard shorts, or pushing a battery past its safe constant current)

Practicing safe vaping (by first learning the basics of battery CDR, the correct way to transport and store them, and then variables like Ohm's Law and Watts Law) will keep you out of harms way.

Back to your question: If this is your primary device for cessation of smoking, I humbly suggest a Juul pod system, an Eleaf Icare kit or a similar all in one device, and both of the ones I mentioned are very slim and easily concealable in a shirt or pants pocket. The Juul pods are very high in nicotine (nicotine salts) and will help to curb your cigarette cravings immensely.

 

[Alter]

Handling batteries is just like handling your DIY nicotine. Treat them with respect and they will respect you. The media overblows any vaping incident to add unnecessary fear into the uneducated public cause the fear is all they got to use since more and more research is surfacing debunking the so called dangers of vaping that been spread by quack research.

 

[Imfallen_Angel]

If you carry batteries in your pocket.. get a silicone sleeve or a plastic case for them.. something to seal them and protect them so that they don't touch something that would cause they to have a contact between the positive and negative ends, creating a short that causes the battery to vent or explode.

These "news" stories you heard, they were about people being stupid and carrying batteries in their pockets with coins. Some stories are about people leaving batteries in the sun inside their cars, or exposing the batteries to a lot of heat, causing the batteries to overheat and vent/explode.

Nothing to do with vaping, everything to do with people doing something stupid.

Same would happen with any batteries, and same happens with cell phones and anything that has Lithium batteries.


For something small, etc. as you're asking.. Go check the Eleaf icare series....

 

[pappcam]

Will you be ordering from Pure Vapors or from China? (Gearbest/Elegomall)

The primary cause of vaping explosions is lack of information/knowledge of proper safe handling procedures of 18650 batteries. Secondary causes can be attributed to misuse of mechanical devices (using atomizers with 510 pins in direct to battery mods that do not protrude far enough causing hard shorts, or pushing a battery past its safe constant current)

Practicing safe vaping (by first learning the basics of battery CDR, the correct way to transport and store them, and then variables like Ohm's Law and Watts Law) will keep you out of harms way.

Back to your question: If this is your primary device for cessation of smoking, I humbly suggest a Juul pod system, an Eleaf Icare kit or a similar all in one device, and both of the ones I mentioned are very slim and easily concealable in a shirt or pants pocket. The Juul pods are very high in nicotine (nicotine salts) and will help to curb your cigarette cravings immensely.

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I started on a Aspire Premium kit with the Nautilus Mini and all I needed to know at the time was how to change the coils and fill it with juice. We don't need to make a potentially life saving switch into a daunting and confusing endeavour.
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I'd recommend any AIO device like the Joyetech AIO, Endura T18 or an iCare for the OP.

 

[KenD]

For safety sake, never charge a battery with an overpowered charger. Using a 2.5 amp fast charger with a device designed to accommodate a .5 amp charge could lead to problems... Also, never leave a battery charging unattended.

Hope this helps...



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Actually, using a wall adapter (the charger is in the mod) that's rated higher than the mod charges at is safer. A lower rated adapter will heat up more and an underrated one will overheat and might fail. It's critical to make sure that the adapter puts out the correct voltage.

Some years ago the most common accidents were with cigalikes that were charged through computer usb ports (potentially unstable voltage/current) or unsuitable wall adapters.

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[Shawn Hoefer]

Actually, using a wall adapter (the charger is in the mod) that's rated higher than the mod charges at is safer. A lower rated adapter will heat up more and an underrated one will overheat and might fail. It's critical to make sure that the adapter puts out the correct voltage.

Some years ago the most common accidents were with cigalikes that were charged through computer usb ports (potentially unstable voltage/current) or unsuitable wall adapters.

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It's the circuitry inside the mod that concerns me and the reason I make the recommendation. Things have gotten better, but I still recall the problems with the Cloupor 30, and others...

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[KenD]

It's the circuitry inside the mod that concerns me and the reason I make the recommendation. Things have gotten better, but I still recall the problems with the Cloupor 30, and others...

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I wouldn't suggest charging batteries inside the mod, no, though most modern mods seem to do a decent job. The problems with the Cloupor were unlikely due to people using high rated adapters.

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