Equipment is Biggest Hurdle to E-Cig Proliferation

[SteamDaddy]

try a kanger protank.
easy to fill, use, change heads on.
none of mine leak at all.
works on about anything with a 510 thread.

 

[Kanj.nguyen]

Im surprised nobody mentioned the eVod. Plug and go. No leak, no burnt taste. Once a head is done, toss and replace for $1. Small form factor and looks slick on an eGo battery.

 

[bnrkwest]

It is tough at first finding the perfect set up. Altho I do use a few clearo's my most reliable is a pyrex glass carto tank. I just found some IKNvape prepunched cartos I love that are working great. Sadly they are sold out, but hope to get more when back in stock. As for the battery, I love ego's because they are light weight and portable, but for reliable, my GLV mini and Provari can't be beat. They both take rechargeable separate batteries which in the long run are cheaper than buying the 10 ego's I have. LOL So once you find your most reliable set up, you will be in vape bliss Have fun getting there! bnrk

 

[Karmick]

Hey Man!

I hear ya, I feel ya, I getcha!


BUT: diving into something without doing your homework is lazy. And you're doing that, so you're not lazy. Kudos!

My suggestion is to get something like the eRoll. PBUsardo has a review on it as well as many others on YouTube. GO, do a search & start watching some vids.

When we started smoking, 9/10 of us actually had a few info sessions form the older person or cool peer that introduced us to it. It wasn't simple. Most people took a few weeks if not months to actually get he hang of smoking SO, no ppl, it's not just light up & go. It just turned into that. Like how for Vapers, after the admittedly long learning curve (tho that depends on what you end up settling into); some ppl just settle on egos with clearos & puff away happily. But however simple or complex your setup, you have to learn how to use it properly & the only way to do that is to make mistakes. Nothing is fuill proof, most notably the Engine of Human Expectation and Blame Deflectors.

OH, the glare, the humanity!!!~ arhumphayummy oh the cotton candy.

Sorry gotta keep on vapin'!!!

Start Vapin' on dude!

 

[Karmick]

Im surprised nobody mentioned the eVod. Plug and go. No leak, no burnt taste. Once a head is done, toss and replace for $1. Small form factor and looks slick on an eGo battery.

Actually the OP did mention the EVOD.

But you mention a great point ; the Evod is awesome but there is a key rule that those who fail with it overlook:

when taking the Evod off your ego of your battery, NEVER grab it by the top or middle; ALWAYS take it from the base; otherwise, even if you don't end up screwing off the bottom, you are going to loosen the bottom screw assembly, thus encouraging the juice to leak out as much or as little as it's been (slightly) unscrewed.

THe detials, Frodo, the details. OK Gandalf never said that but he would have if he was explaining it to Tuk. Ha! Tuk who takes a toke! hehe lol

I should go now; they're calling me for my meds.


K.

 

[Kanj.nguyen]

Actually the OP did mention the EVOD.

But you mention a great point ; the Evod is awesome but there is a key rule that those who fail with it overlook:

when taking the Evod off your ego of your battery, NEVER grab it by the top or middle; ALWAYS take it from the base; otherwise, even if you don't end up screwing off the bottom, you are going to loosen the bottom screw assembly, thus encouraging the juice to leak out as much or as little as it's been (slightly) unscrewed.

THe detials, Frodo, the details. OK Gandalf never said that but he would have if he was explaining it to Tuk. Ha! Tuk who takes a toke! hehe lol

I should go now; they're calling me for my meds.


K.

Ahahaha Karmick you win.

I think OP used the tabac BCC. They are both bottom coil, but the fine tuning of bottom coil clearos is much more delicate than other devices due to the constant threat of leaking under liquid pressure. So even if the BCC leaks, eVod may not. Give it a go. I have bought an eVod-eGo combo for each one of my smoker friends at home. After i rebuilt them they vape as well as any of my big devices. Im talking Genesis on mech.

 

[Grimwald]

I would Never start a New Vapor with a Clearomizer.

Start them with Filler Type Cartomizers until they get the hang of vaping. And are thru he Non-Smoking nerves.

Then turn them on to Clearos.

Agreed...In fact, after 9 months, I still use mostly cartos...because I find clearomizers just too unreliable.

 

[Kanj.nguyen]

Agreed...In fact, after 9 months, I still use mostly cartos...because I find clearomizers just too unreliable.

Im glad cartos worked out for you, but I disagree with you both, unfortunately. If you know what youre doing, any delivery system can be reliable and stable. And yes, i have used pretty much all types you can think of.

 

[zoiDman]

Agreed...In fact, after 9 months, I still use mostly cartos...because I find clearomizers just too unreliable.

The Key is Go with what Works for You. It took me a Long Time to find the Right Mod for CE2's to make them work. If I hadn't had Cartomizers during this time, I would have said Screw Clearos and Screw Vaping.

Im glad cartos worked out for you, but I disagree with you both, unfortunately. If you know what youre doing, any delivery system can be reliable and stable. And yes, i have used pretty much all types you can think of.

Sure... If you Know what your Doing.

But Unfortunately, when someone starts using an e-Cigarette, they Don't.

Couple that with the 2 Weeks or so of Wanting to Yell at People because you just Quit Smoking, and Many Newbies are going to just throw their Clearos in the Trash and buy a Pack of Smokes.

 

[SupplyDaddy]

"Is there a hassle-free solution with great performance?"

In my experience, this "tool" is one of the best available. The only real problem with it is that it needs to be taken cared of.
Truthfully, I would have been happy smoking my 2+ packs a day of Swisher Sweet cherry cigars.. only I knew what it was costing me physically and financially. So, I made the switch.. and learned along the way and made it a hobby instead of a habit.

The battery, regardless of the type you use, needs to be cleaned and checked regularly. And even that doesn't have to be a big thing. Wipe it down, clear out the connection, check the springs and connections (or what ever it has) and make sure your power supply is stable and up to the task as well.
Your juice devices need the TLC also. Clean the connections, blow out excess juice, clean the tips and look over the device to ensure nothing is cracking or separating regularly and these things will last you a while. I have dual coil cartos that have lasted over a month, I have my 1st Kanger MT3 going into it's 3rd week with out having to replace its coil.. RBA tanks that I've only replaced the coils on because I wanted to use higher ohms..

There is going to be a hassle, but it's one that I think is worth it..

 

[Kanj.nguyen]

The Key is Go with what Works for You. It took me a Long Time to find the Right Mod for CE2's to make them work. If I hadn't had Cartomizers during this time, I would have said Screw Clearos and Screw Vaping.



Sure... If you Know what your Doing.

But Unfortunately, when someone starts using an e-Cigarette, they Don't.

Couple that with the 2 Weeks or so of Wanting to Yell at People because you just Quit Smoking, and Many Newbies are going to just throw their Clearos in the Trash and buy a Pack of Smokes.

If after 9 months you still dont know what youre doing... I have nothing more to say.

(not YOU, just in general referring to the guy above sticking to carto for 9 months)

 

[Intelik808]

I remember when i got my first ecig it was 4-5 years ago it was a njoy full flavor whole kit plus a whole lot of extras i purchased at a trade show for $120.00. and i thought wow i think i can just smoke this instead. I was totally wrong when back to Cigs two days after. but now after aporx $1400.00 in about a month I can proudly say that my last cig was March 30 2013. For me it was about trying different delivery devices and juices its become another money pit hobby for me at least I haven't smoke a stog since then. My suggestion is if your friends are serious about quitting cigs they would have to just keep trying different mods/juices. Dont feel bad at least you tried cause in the end its on them and how bad they dont want to Smoke the real thing. Also you might want to try volcano's menthol burst thats what juice i used to kick that habit. and go to a store front that has VV/VW devices and others that they/you could try and see what feels best.

 

[zoiDman]

If after 9 months you still dont know what youre doing... I have nothing more to say.

(not YOU, just in general referring to the guy above sticking to carto for 9 months)

What's wrong with using Cartomizers? If they are Happy and Aren't thinking about going Back to Analogs, I don't see anything Wrong.

Sometimes Ease of Use is Overlooked. I get Sick and Tired of Fooling with Clearos sometimes. Some people who use RBA's think that People who don't Build their Own Atomizers Don't Know what is Going On.

It's all Relative.

 

[Baditude]

If after 9 months you still dont know what youre doing... I have nothing more to say.

(not YOU, just in general referring to the guy above sticking to carto for 9 months)

And what is wrong with using and sticking to cartomizers? If that is what kept him off the smokes, who are you to belittle his choice? I detect some arrogance and sarcasm in your post. Most of us here try to help people and not pass judgement on others. Your above statement serves no useful purpose.

 

[Kanj.nguyen]

What's wrong with using Cartomizers? If they are Happy and Aren't thinking about going Back to Analogs, I don't see anything Wrong.

Sometimes Ease of Use is Overlooked. I get Sick and Tired of Fooling with Clearos sometimes. Some people who use RBA's think that People who don't Build their Own Atomizers Don't Know what is Going On.

It's all Relative.

At no point did i say there was anything wrong with cartos. Many veterans still swear by carto tanks, and many use carto tanks as out and about setup because other devices are less mobile, The key here is "stick to cartos because clearos are unreliable". Carto is not the operating term here.

If after 9 months you still find clearos unreliable, meaning you have no idea whats going on, then yeah, i have nothing further to comment.

 

[zoiDman]

And what is wrong with using and sticking to cartomizers? If that is what kept him off the smokes, who are you to belittle his choice? I detect some arrogance and sarcasm in your post. Most of us here try to help people and not pass judgement on others. Your above statement serves no useful purpose.

I hear you Baditude.

It's kinda Sad when someone Can't Except when another person doesn't Like or Want to use what they use.

 

[Kanj.nguyen]

And what is wrong with using and sticking to cartomizers? If that is what kept him off the smokes, who are you to belittle his choice? I detect some arrogance and sarcasm in your post. Most of us here try to help people and not pass judgement on others. Your above statement serves no useful purpose.

If you read what i wrote as passing judgement, its your problem. Because im not. And im not even belittling his choice. Please show me where i did.

I said im glad cartos work for him. I am refuting the fact that clearos are unsuitable for newbies, and also the fact that clearos are unreliable. Dont jump the gun just because the word carto is involved.

In addition to that, many newbies i know start right off the bat with eVods because cartos are hard to use. Again, im not knocking cartos, they have their place, and sticking to them is ones free choice. But saying clearos are a bad choice for newbies (as per the statement he was agreeing with) is wrong, and it may even turn newbies away from a very good starting point. I am rejecting that statement. Is that useful enough for you?

 

[Baditude]

Point taken. Apparently I was not the only one who got riled up by your statement. It can be hard to detect a person's true intent by words alone on a forum. No hard feelings. Peace.


Personally speaking, I also believe simple clearos are unreliable and fussy. But I still recommend them to new vapors because they are easy to fill and use, generally.

I agree that cartos are "a little" more difficult to learn how to use. I recommend new vapors try both clearos and cartos out and decide for themselves which best suit their needs.

This is why I created my blog post on Juice Delivery Systems for beginners. New vapors can read a description, see a pic of the device, and view a demo video to help decide what might be best for them.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/3230-1-proper-terminology-carto-tank-what-primer-juice-delivery-attachments.html

 

[Kanj.nguyen]

No sweats. I will also try to convey my intention better from now on to avoid unneccessary confusion.

 

[zoiDman]

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In addition to that, many newbies i know start right off the bat with eVods because cartos are hard to use. Again, im not knocking cartos, they have their place, and sticking to them is ones free choice. But saying clearos are a bad choice for newbies (as per the statement he was agreeing with) is wrong, and it may even turn newbies away from a very good starting point. ...

OK... Now that we have Established that All Clearomizers are Reliable for All People, Using All e-Liquids at All Voltages.

Perhaps you would like to make a Suggestion to someone who is currently using Cartomizers of which Clearomizer you would recommend?