Even if banned wouldn't it still be legal to buy e-cig as personal vaporizer?

[jonw]

There are so many stores you go into that sell pipes for smoking illegal substances we all no what there really used for but no one bothers stopping them. They market them for novelty reasons or some other bs couldn't we do the same with e-cigs. I'm not talking about the juice that's a whole different story I'm talking about the e-cig or better yet personal vaporizer.

No one gives any trouble to people buying pipes even though we all no what there used for, why can't this be the same for e-cigs.

 

[Sun Vaporer]

There are so many stores you go into that sell pipes for smoking illegal substances we all no what there really used for but no one bothers stopping them. They market them for novelty reasons or some other bs couldn't we do the same with e-cigs. I'm not talking about the juice that's a whole different story I'm talking about the e-cig or better yet personal vaporizer.

No one gives any trouble to people buying pipes even though we all no what there used for, why can't this be the same for e-cigs.

Jonw--The FDA has taken the position that the e-cig is a drug deliver system and is deemed to be a medical device and are posed to ban the device.--Read though some of the many threads and you will find the FDA's position. I am not agreeing with it--just informing --------Sun

 

[surbitonPete]

I don't know what you are all so worried about....'if' it's the truth that the Chinese are now only selling 24 mg in order to get your FDA approval then that is exactly the same as saying the FDA have already told them they will approve 24 mg nicotine juice and If they have approved the juice everything will be o/k. It would be virtually impossible for them to prevent people getting hold of the vaporizers.

 

[jonw]

No no just the e-cig by its self not the juice. When I say that I mean like ok PS sells the Prodigy even if the US bans e-cigs couldn't he keep selling the Prodigy just no attys?
With just the Prodigy no attys there is no way unless you had the other parts you could use it to deliver drugs, just like a pipe from a store is useless without the substance.

 

[surbitonPete]

Well I can't help thinking it would be a bit bizarre to approve the drug and ban the device.

 

[happily]

I don't know what you are all so worried about....'if' it's the truth that the Chinese are now only selling 24 mg in order to get your FDA approval then that is exactly the same as saying the FDA have already told them they will approve 24 mg nicotine juice and If they have approved the juice everything will be o/k. It would be virtually impossible for them to prevent people getting hold of the vaporizers.

I do agree with what you are saying it would be hard to ban personal mini foggers...............I use mine for magic tricks

 

[surbitonPete]

I do agree with what you are saying it would be hard to ban personal mini foggers...............I use mine for magic tricks

Lmao.....that's great, I think we need a thread for coming up with alternative uses for PV's

 

[LuckySevens4U]

Lmao.....that's great, I think we need a thread for coming up with alternative uses for PV's

I use mine as a humidifier. The filters are fab.

 

[Intricate87]

Well I can't help thinking it would be a bit bizarre to approve the drug and ban the device.

When I asked my supplier about why they are not making the 36mg liquid anymore they told me because the European government said 26mg is the highest that they can make. I do not think it has anything to do with the USA or the FDA. Now I could be wrong but this is just what my supplier told me.

Rob

 

[surbitonPete]

When I asked my supplier about why they are not making the 36mg liquid anymore they told me because the European government said 26mg is the highest that they can make. I do not think it has anything to do with the USA or the FDA. Now I could be wrong but this is just what my supplier told me.

Rob

Oh sorry guys I thought your FDA was getting the blame.....well it's good news for all of us over here though. I guess I had better get my spare bedroom ready....lol.

 

[jonw]

When I'm out in public I just tell them my janty stick is for asthma most people actually buy that load of garbage lol.

 

[hanover fist]

I don’t think they can outlaw the device because they sell bongs and crack pipes in shops
But they could block the liquid from coming in the country But I think they will try to control it so they can tax it

 

[jonw]

I don’t think they can outlaw the device because they sell bongs and crack pipes in shops
But they could block the liquid from coming in the country But I think they will try to control it so they can tax it

I think like most say it would be to hard to stop all liquid from coming in the states, also if e-cigs went underground I am sure we would see a lot of people figuring out how to make there own juice, I no dangerous but you can extract nicotine from Tobacco leaves very easily. Honestly if it comes down to ban or tax I might choose ban because it would turn say a $30.00 bottle of juice into a $90.00 bottle of juice. Most of what you pay when you buy cigs is tax, if the juice gets taxed it means the same thing making it no cheaper to vape than to smoke.

Also smokingeverywherenow could hurt us think about it, they advertise that 1 cartage is a pack of cigs yes I no its a lie but they gov would be like okay lets tax each cart as if its a pack of cigs. Imagine paying 5bucks for one cartage 8-o not good.

 

[katink]

DeKang has said, here on the board, that they are working with the FDA - and can't go above 24 or 26 mg. Of course I don't know how far or how (over?)-optimistic DeKang might be as to that coöperation with FDA.

What is also on the back of my mind, is that FDA has it in their head to make this a prescription drug- and device... so bring it in (at some point) but only through doctors, getting their government-dollars through that route... (I have no evidence at all to this, just see this as a possibility!)(and not a happy one of course)

 

[surbitonPete]

DeKang has said, here on the board, that they are working with the FDA - and can't go above 24 or 26 mg. Of course I don't know how far or how (over?)-optimistic DeKang might be as to that coöperation with FDA.

What is also on the back of my mind, is that FDA has it in their head to make this a prescription drug- and device... so bring it in (at some point) but only through doctors, getting their government-dollars through that route... (I have no evidence at all to this, just see this as a possibility!)(and not a happy one of course)

So is the cut in Nic strength to do with the FDA or Europe??

 

[happily]

So is the cut in Nic strength to do with the FDA or Europe??

a lot of suppliers posted a note saying we will no longer carry 36mg as we are seeking fda approval

 

[Sun Vaporer]

Well I can't help thinking it would be a bit bizarre to approve the drug and ban the device.

Pete--Yes --that would be like approving bullits and banning the gun---just does not work-------Sun

 

[jonw]

DeKang has said, here on the board, that they are working with the FDA - and can't go above 24 or 26 mg. Of course I don't know how far or how (over?)-optimistic DeKang might be as to that coöperation with FDA.

What is also on the back of my mind, is that FDA has it in their head to make this a prescription drug- and device... so bring it in (at some point) but only through doctors, getting their government-dollars through that route... (I have no evidence at all to this, just see this as a possibility!)(and not a happy one of course)

Yea so then we end up with very ugly bulky devices huh that's just great, anyone who does not have insurance gets to pay 400 dollars just for the vaporizer even better. Then they will want to cut the nic strength down to like 4mg, lets face it the reason there is no real effective way to quit smoking is because the gov doesn't want one, they don't want to get new smokers but they want to tax the current ones because they no there a excellent money source. Part of the reason I just vape now and refuse to smoke is because I no that one less way the gov can get money from me. Taxes only go one way up it's not to often you see a tax go down.

 

[surbitonPete]

Well then it must be like I say.. the juice suppliers wouldn't be changing their juice strength to make the FDA happy 'unless' the FDA have already told them it 'will' make them happy, so basically that seems to be telling me that vaping is going to be aproved.

 

[jonw]

Will see how this goes it just seems to easy, something smells fishy here that's just me though.