Ok thanks. My Evic Mini has never dropped out to power mode. It just gets wimpy now and then. It's only happened once so far today. <knocking on wood>
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Hmmmm but I'm using SS316L in TCR mode 88 as I picked up from here.
So far works pretty ok to me where it can last like 2-3 tanks before needs cleaning.
Currently using 26ag SS316L 3mm 6 wraps spaced locked at 0.35ohms.
450F on 30W and long drags have no dry hits, on 92 I got dry hits usually towards end of the tank or batt running weak which i'm not sure why.
So far works pretty ok to me where it can last like 2-3 tanks before needs cleaning.
Currently using 26ag SS316L 3mm 6 wraps spaced locked at 0.35ohms.
450F on 30W and long drags have no dry hits, on 92 I got dry hits usually towards end of the tank or batt running weak which i'm not sure why.
If its working well for you, cool.
Didn't work for squat for 'most' people. That's why the forums are full of 'help me with my problem, I'm using 316(L) in my tank' posts.
Very few post about their problems with 430.
Wonder if there is some common thing there?
Might have to give SS 430 a shot - although I really don't need more spools of wire lying around. Where did you get your SS 430?
I'll try a total breakdown and new coil first, though. It's been behaving so far today (of course it would).
Sure there's a common thing there.
With a TCR around 138 (?) it's far easier for our slower budget mods to track the res changes.
And it's used by maybe three percent of the SS vapers.
I keep forgetting to order some myself (only 316L to date) but I could easily end up trying NiFe first.
Yeah, now that I bought a few DNA200 mods, I may try that wire myself.
Playing with my first two that arrived Thursday. Seriously geeky fun.
Great vape too of course.
On the 430 vs 316/304...
Market adoption is a weird thing, VHS vs. Beta for example.
SS430 is demonstrably superior... but it's never used in factory heads to my knowledge and for whatever reason the market went 304/316 at the start... and just stayed there.
And I found it harder to source in usable gauges so I just bought 316 (Unkamen).
We're creatures of habit... it's what we buy so it's what they sell.
Thanks, seems the only gauge of 430 he (?) sells... I forget what I found months ago. And his presence on Etsy seemed ridiculously hard to navigate or search (used that site as well).
I only roll simples so I've got 316 in 24G and 26G.
I'd have to research the res of 28G 430 to see how it compares.
KP has the best selection I've seen
I don't care for the heavy thicker wire...
- Wire - Stainless Steel - Kidney Puncher
I don't care for the heavy thicker wire...
- Wire - Stainless Steel - Kidney Puncher
KP has the best selection I've seen
I don't care for the heavy thicker wire...
- Wire - Stainless Steel - Kidney Puncher
See what I mean... I couldn't find any 430, they do show NiFe70 though.
316as works perfectly for me, in dual and single coil atties, over a wide range of Joyetech/Wismec mods. Stable builds, stable connections are required though.
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Ah, I see. Then 316L must be the better choice.
Please excuse me for interjecting a different possibility then.
Geez. No need to get huffy about that. All he was saying is that you're not likely to get a lot of people complaining about malfunctions with SS 430 if there aren't a lot of people using it in the first place. A valid point, imo.
He didn't state an opinion regarding which is a better coil material for TC.
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I must be an odd duck then as the only SS I use is 430. Then again I have a Invar36 build I use.
Personally, I don't know what the motivation is. Be it availability, different gauges or simply because the mod in hand happens to have a menu option for it.
When it comes to TC: higher resistance coils, higher TCR or both give our mods more granularity to regulate effectively. I've seen enough of those "choppy" charts the DNA guys/gals have posted from low resistance builds of low TCR wire to stick with higher TCR wire and higher resistance builds for my TC needs.
Disclaimer: the only SS I own is 430. The other types can and do work however we've all seen the posts of people having problems with some of them.
Personally, I don't know what the motivation is. Be it availability, different gauges or simply because the mod in hand happens to have a menu option for it.
When it comes to TC: higher resistance coils, higher TCR or both give our mods more granularity to regulate effectively. I've seen enough of those "choppy" charts the DNA guys/gals have posted from low resistance builds of low TCR wire to stick with higher TCR wire and higher resistance builds for my TC needs.
Disclaimer: the only SS I own is 430. The other types can and do work however we've all seen the posts of people having problems with some of them.
If people knew more about TC and SS wire, they would be using 430ss....
316ss works perfectly fine in power mode though
316ss works perfectly fine in power mode though
316 generally works fine in TC as well.
Its' TCR isn't that far from 430's, considering all SS is damn low compared to Ni and Ti.
It's just that 430 should be and apparently is... demonstrably better.
The availability and market uptake however is, like many examples... inexplicable.
We should have been using 430 from the start... we just didn't. Go figure.
Its' TCR isn't that far from 430's, considering all SS is damn low compared to Ni and Ti.
It's just that 430 should be and apparently is... demonstrably better.
The availability and market uptake however is, like many examples... inexplicable.
We should have been using 430 from the start... we just didn't. Go figure.
Well I did a complete cleaning of my Tobeco Kayfun Mini v3 clone (took it completely apart), stuck on a new SS316L coil, wicked it up and - knock on wood - no wispy vape problem so far today. <fingers crossed>
Hopefully the problem was with my tank and not the VTC Mini.
Still, what you guys are saying about SS430 being a better wire for TC because of its higher TCR makes sense to me. Plus, there's apparently zero nickel in it. I assume that SS430 can be used in power mode too? Resistance to oxidation because of heat seems about the same too.
Wonder why the online vape stores don't sell it?
Hopefully the problem was with my tank and not the VTC Mini.
Still, what you guys are saying about SS430 being a better wire for TC because of its higher TCR makes sense to me. Plus, there's apparently zero nickel in it. I assume that SS430 can be used in power mode too? Resistance to oxidation because of heat seems about the same too.
Wonder why the online vape stores don't sell it?
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