eVic-VT mini?

[TheotherSteveS]

That's the gist of sub-ohming. More coil surface, more power, more heat, more vaporized juice, more flavor.

Cloud chasing is just an affectation.
And I'm not convinced the pinnacle of flavor lives only at the bleeding edge of low ohms.

sub-ohming is largely a relic of using mech mods where the only way the user has any way of increasing power is to lower the res of the coil. With regulated mods, it doesnt really mean anything...at least in my opinion. Not saying mech mods are obsolete, its just a different way of doing things.

Large clouds generally require large airflow which, in general, is the enemy of flavour! Thats why RDAs (and RTAs for that matter) that generate insane clouds tend to lack a bit (or a lot) of flavour.

 

[Jim_ MDP]

Large clouds generally require large airflow which, in general, is the enemy of flavour! Thats why RDAs (and RTAs for that matter) that generate insane clouds tend to lack a bit (or a lot) of flavour.

There's a balancing act going on.

Inhaling some fair multiple of vaporized juice vs. a high ohm, lower power coil, will certainly overcome a disadvantage of greater dilution by volume. But up to what point?

Super sub-ohming, I believe, has passed that point and is more cloud than flavor.
But, as I'm already getting in trouble elsewhere for my opinions on the topic, I'll leave it at that.

 

[Margucci]

It depends on how its being done. Something like the tfv4 quad coil has great vapor and flavor and its at 0.15 ohm. So far I have yet to see something below 0.1 ohm which has decent flavor.

 

[Jim_ MDP]

For battery life, fingers, and faces.

Indeed.

Mech/Bypass Mode is confusing, perhaps dicey.

I'm playing with a new 0.2 in an iSub and just checked... at a fairly low 34w it's 2.54v on a fairly charged battery. Just to get to 3 volts I have to go about 48w, close to the true max for this coil (it's impressive as hell for a damn iSub).

But if I stupidly switch to Bypass, now it's just over 4 volts (no big deal on a high ohm coil) but 86 watts.
From my single cell 75w entry level mod. Okay... it's only 21 amps, but it will instantly fry my factory head. No doubt.
I don't need to test the theory, or replace the coil.

And presumably, that wattage will drop with the cell, just like a mech... however.
How much is "chip trickery", like boosted voltage (think of a 50,000 volt TASER) ?
And how much, if any, is true added draw on the cell? Over 85 watts?

It's certainly a fun thing to play with if you're at a battery level and ohm level (on an RDA) that would allow an appropriate larger hit of power. But I see lots of pitfalls. I don't like pitfalls.

 

[Bru2basics]

What F & W your on For TI after the update ?
Am facing inaccurate Temp
Before upgrade was working fine

I went from v1.10 to 1.20 and it fixed my problems.

Ironically, I never had an issue with 1.10 and was introduced to the "TC resistance drift" problem when I upgraded to 1.20 - .14 Ohm coil that kept drifting to .12 on the VTC and thus giving a poor vape.

Went back to 1.10 and issue was gone. Went back up to 1.20 and again, no problems, rock solid at .14 for > 24 hrs now.
The only difference: While updating the first time I had an atty screwed on. When going back to 1.10 and re-updating to 1.20 I screwed the atty off and pushed the Fire button a couple of times (to let the VTC know that it had no head) before doing the upgrade.

Don't know if that really made the difference or if I was just lucky and some voodoo causes the VTC to behave badly.
But I thought it was a good idea to share this experience - maybe it helps someone down the road....

Mine actually semi bricked the first time I ran the update to v1.2. Couldn't get it to turn on do nothing and I didn't have an atty on so took battery out, pressed button a few times and said a few choice words along the lines of work or ya going out the window and ran the update again. Happy days it worked and has since how it's spose to, though I do still see a little refinement but bearable.

 

[gerrymi]

Where's the best/cheapest place to buy a black VTC mini (mod only) in the US? Love the screen on this.

How about $28.29?

I paid $4 for shipping...traveled from China => Pittsburgh in exactly 10 days.

http://www.efun.top/joyetech-evic-vtc-mini-express-kit.html

EDIT: Actually...I received it 10 days after I ordered it. Not sure how long it took to actually "travel" since their tracking notice was close to worthless.

 

[RipCigs]

Mine arrived. Is it normal that at 150 celzius it heats the coil very little, 200 decent and 220 it drastically improves?
Also, i reverted to 1.10 firmware since 1.20 in ti felt underpowered. Beats me.
I've only had it for an hour, put a twisted 30awg single coil on it at 40w, around 0.4 ohms.

 

[mc8]

Mine arrived. Is it normal that at 150 celzius it heats the coil very little, 200 decent and 220 it drastically improves?
Also, i reverted to 1.10 firmware since 1.20 in ti felt underpowered. Beats me.
I've only had it for an hour, put a twisted 30awg single coil on it at 40w, around 0.4 ohms.

Yes

 

[RipCigs]

For now it works fine on 470F, 0.37 ohm in TI mode. Hardware 1.10 firmware 1.10. I'll let you guys know if it starts being anemic after sitting a while

 

[Bru2basics]

Mine arrived. Is it normal that at 150 celzius it heats the coil very little, 200 decent and 220 it drastically improves?
Also, i reverted to 1.10 firmware since 1.20 in ti felt underpowered. Beats me.
I've only had it for an hour, put a twisted 30awg single coil on it at 40w, around 0.4 ohms.

Yeah bang on the money it is underpowering in Ti mode but maybe they fix that with another firmware as long as they don't break the resistance drift fix! , mines @ 240°c with a 26g single coil 9 wraps .33ohm at 65watts.

 

[RipCigs]

Here we go.
After 10ish mins of sleep, crap vape.
Unlock resistance, turn off, turn on, asks if new coil.
If i say no, stays crap.
If i say yes, and then lock it, it's normal.
So it begins...

 

[Schlinky]

Here we go.
After 10ish mins of sleep, crap vape.
Unlock resistance, turn off, turn on, asks if new coil.
If i say no, stays crap.
If i say yes, and then lock it, it's normal.
So it begins...

In a way I'm kinda glad it's not just me that the update didn't help

I still don't know if this is a hardware fault or something that can be patched up in FW. What wire/resistance you using?

 

[RipCigs]

In a way I'm kinda glad it's not just me that the update didn't help

I still don't know if this is a hardware fault or something that can be patched up in FW. What wire/resistance you using?

I don't wanna jinx it but..
I honestly don't know what i did differently. Went back to 1.2 with atomizer off. Fired without locked resistance (forgot). Left it to cool, locked res and has been good since. I have no idea what's going on. Still have a feeling it will randomly go anemic again, but we'll see.
Wire is twisted 30awg titanium 1, 0.38 ohms

 

[Tpat591]

So it sounds like the new firmware has solve the issues for all but a few of you?

 

[RipCigs]

Ok last post, starting to spam.
Ti mode is broken. It died again.
Ni mode working fine for now though so im keeping my Ti on Ni for now.
It has to be a software thing, no other explanation imo. Only the sleep messes it up, im sure a future firmware will fix this. I sent Joyetech a mail regarding this, saying many of my friends are cancelling orders because of this. Maybe it budges them.

 

[Cirkulis]

I sent Joyetech a mail regarding this, saying many of my friends are cancelling orders because of this. Maybe it budges them.

"You can get more of what you want with a kind word and a gun than you can with just a kind word."

 

[p_bateman]

So it sounds like the new firmware has solve the issues for all but a few of you?

Hardware v1.02 (white) Current firmware - v1.2
I have the same problem with ti mode and it was like this from the beginning. I updated to 1.1 hoping that there was a fix but they did not even fix it in 1.2. I use only titanium wire and as the other guy said it works just fine in Ni mode, you have to lower the temp to something like 170 -180 degrees celsius though.
Made an account just to post this. Thank you for attention.

 

[Tpat591]

I assume those of you with continuing issues are updating your Joyetech service request tickets after each firmware update is done that these updates still have not solved you issues requesting instructions on how to proceed?

 

[zeus01]

ok a quick observation
apparently some of us who had the anemic sleep vape syndrome

prior to update used either used the ss wires on ti mode or ti on ni mode which heats up a bit faster than the underpowered and broken ti mode
(i also remeber one guy using it in vw mode for a while)

then we had the update
and everything was fixed by some voodoo magic

seems like it was either the update really worked
or some how we ....ed up the board and tge software so hard that when the update came it was fixed?
but how do i know?
i am just a regular vaper

for those having issues still you can try the path that we took,and see it it fixes it
do the workaround for a while then update?hahahahaaha

 

[skyboxer1968]

ok a quick observation
apparently some of us who had the anemic sleep vape syndrome

prior to update used either used the ss wires on ti mode or ti on ni mode which heats up a bit faster than the underpowered and broken ti mode
(i also remeber one guy using it in vw mode for a while)

then we had the update
and everything was fixed by some voodoo magic

seems like it was either the update really worked
or some how we ....ed up the board and tge software so hard that when the update came it was fixed?
but how do i know?
i am just a regular vaper

for those having issues still you can try the path that we took,and see it it fixes it
do the workaround for a while then update?hahahahaaha

Having an issue resolved via update without the manufacturer acknowledging there was ever an issue doesn't seem so unusual to me. It's not the most honest way to handle things but at the end of the day I have a working device.