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But, gosh Rossum, can't we just print our way out? If people are unemployed we'll just give them an income, everything will be fine, it will just be like they weren't unemployed, they'll spend. Good times. Get the presses geared up and printing.
Let's pretend for a moment that this wouldn't make things even worse at some point down the road (which I don't think for a moment you believe)...

With everything on "lock down" hardly anyone is driving anywhere. That means demand for gasoline is way down. However, trucks that use diesel fuel (and can't use gasoline!) are still rolling to keep the essential things (like food!) moving. Now what happens at an oil refinery? Crude oil get fractionally distilled and/or "cracked" into several end-products, the biggest of these being gasoline and diesel fuel. The product ratios can be adjusted a bit, but not a whole lot. That means there is currently a substantial surplus of gasoline. What do you do with that surplus? Well, you put it in storage tanks. What do you do when all your storage capacity is full? You really have no choice by to to shut down the refinery, and you get neither gasoline or diesel fuel. The only saving grace with this is that demand for jet fuel (which is made from the same fraction of crude as diesel) is also way down.

How many manufacturing business are shut down right now because they've been declared non-essential? What happens when an essential one (like one producing food!) needs something from one that's "non essential"? Anyone who thinks that bureaucrats understand these kinds of relationships -- without which everything eventually comes to a grinding halt -- and that they're capable of deciding what is and isn't essential should read the classic essay, I, Pencil:
I, Pencil by Leonard E. Read | Leonard E. Read

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Well, what ever your opinion is about the current situation?
Some extreme measures are needed in the US ASAP!!
You's went from not even on the radar to this in no time flat!

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From the looks of other countries that are weeks ahead of the US in this fight, what's the number going to be in a few weeks! Scary!!!
 

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Well, what ever your opinion is about the current situation?
Some extreme measures are needed in the US ASAP!!
You's went from not even on the radar to this in no time flat!

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From the looks of other countries that are weeks ahead of the US in this fight, what's the number going to be in a few weeks! Scary!!!
and just a few hours later .............
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Please keep in mind that the US is testing more people in a day than most other countries test in a month. Our numbers will look extremely high as a result of that.
But still way too low IMHO, when looking at it from a persons tested per million of population perspective.
 

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It’s not just testing, in South Korea they have mastered this tracking thing. They have. Basically. IT teams. Retracing the steps of the infected to determine. Who they could have possibly. Came into contact with. Identifying. The newly infected and isolating them is a big part of the success. Their. Having
These measures. Need to be implemented. Here! You could be infected & not even know it. All the while. Infecting many more people along the way :(
This is why the distancing. Is so important You have to act like everyone has the virus!
 
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Hard to say how bad it is in the US since the US isn't testing unless you meet all 6 requirements. One of them is a fever of over 100.8°F. Another odd thing is the media has been reporting hospitals are full, while individuals using #FILMYOURHOSPITAL and #EMPTYHOSPITALS are showing empty hospitals all throughout the US. And don't bother looking on YouTube. As they made a new policy that filming inside of hospitals, violates their rules.
 

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Two questions for CALIFORNIA:

1) How long do you think you can keep things shut down before you have an economic collapse that makes the Great Depression look like a picnic at Disneyland?

2) What happens to the number of virus cases the moment you re-open things because you've concluded keeping things shut down is going to end up killing more people than the virus itself ever would have?

Yes, I realize that asking these questions will not win me a popularity contest. But they are questions that should be asked.


We've had pretty much lockdown for 2 weeks here, and before that a precursory lockdown....they say it takes about 10 days to see any effects from lockdown stages...and Trump and Co dont seem like the types to wait to see results. But results there are, we're seeing the infection rate stabilise if not drop....

The other problem you have is you've never had:

a) the safetynet of universal health care
b) a proper welfare system

Saw this posted online today, its not good...



Also Trump and Co will be more worried about making money than protecting the great unwashed, check his comments since this began, its not just the usual lies and contradicting himself, which is his normal

Maybe after this people in your country will change their at times puzzling/bat.... crazy voting preferences...
 

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Hard to say how bad it is in the US since the US isn't testing unless you meet all 6 requirements. One of them is a fever of over 100.8°F. Another odd thing is the media has been reporting hospitals are full, while individuals using #FILMYOURHOSPITAL and #EMPTYHOSPITALS are showing empty hospitals all throughout the US. And don't bother looking on YouTube. As they made a new policy that filming inside of hospitals, violates their rules.
all through the U.S. where the curve is still ramping up and could be flattened with testing. our county has had one case so far but nobody worries what's out in the community. mass testing (35k) could make a big difference but there are no tests to be had.

Whats Germany doing right? 90,000 cases & only 1440 dead!

they tested early and lots ;) unfortunately, tracking was not as successful as in s korea. while the rate was pretty steady at .7% it has now crept up to 1.3% because somehow the virus found a foothold in nursing/assisted living facilities. :(
 

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We've had pretty much lockdown for 2 weeks here, and before that a precursory lockdown....they say it takes about 10 days to see any effects from lockdown stages...and Trump and Co dont seem like the types to wait to see results. But results there are, we're seeing the infection rate stabilise if not drop....

The other problem you have is you've never had:

a) the safetynet of universal health care
b) a proper welfare system

Saw this posted online today, its not good...



Also Trump and Co will be more worried about making money than protecting the great unwashed, check his comments since this began, its not just the usual lies and contradicting himself, which is his normal

Maybe after this people in your country will change their at times puzzling/bat.... crazy voting preferences...
 

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Change your password if you used it anywhere else.
Some day people will come to realize that using the same password on multiple sites, or worse yet, all over the internet, is an absolutely terrible idea.
 

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Goodmorning guys...
"I have nothing" Just print something!! Is it free? Yes, for those on public assistance. Oh, I work. Dont worry, then you'll have money to pay it back with intrest!!!...[emoji848]
Going crazy In my house and blabbering...

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