Man, you guys and your fast connections. Don't worry Tibs, we are surfing way faster than my first modem.

Sorry Tibs,you're staying home this weekend?![]()
What are you going to sell? One vape product and that is it? No you are wanting to sell dozens to thousands. Let's say I sell my own juice line and I have 100 flavors. Each one comes in 4 nic levels. That is 400 x $466,000 or 400 x $117,000. That is $46,800,000 to $186,400,000. Who has that kind of money?"FDA considers each ENDS product with a differing flavoring variant or nicotine strength to be a different product."
"a premarket tobacco application (PMTA) = in the low to mid hundreds of thousands of dollars (around $117,000 to around $466,000), not in the millions of dollars described by some others"
No big tobacco gets around that by saying the product was available before 2007, so it gets grandfathered.Well by that same logic, the leaf's from each tobacco plant would have to be kept separate, submitted for testing, approval and a separate fee paid to the FDA before any products including cigarettes, cigars, nic patches or gum can be made from them, correct? I mean if they want a level playing field for big tobacco and big phrama that's the way it should stand.
No big tobacco gets around that by saying the product was available before 2007, so it gets grandfathered.
Thats just as damn scary, given some of the crap I have seen them pull.Really, the FDA shouldn't even have the power to make the regulations, that should fall under the ATF.
Yep, the ATF has an even worse track record of making up the laws as they go along than the FDA. None of this should be allowed without going through Congress.Thats just as damn scary, given some of the crap I have seen them pull.
I struggled with the coolness of the vapor since I started with TC. I guess I just got used to it.My progress with the mzier's has come a long way in a short time. Last few days I moved up to dual coils, very happy. I used 28ga ni, seven wraps each hitting .03 ohms with rayon, very impressed. I haven't touch my Zephyrus tanks since, I think my days of buying coils is finally behind me, something I've wanted for a long time. Tried to build coils that would preform and last in the deck's that came with the Zephyrus but they are too small, these mizer's are great. Biggest thing that's still an adjustment is how much cooler the vape is with the mizer, that and they go through a lot more juice. Was thinking of trying stainless but I don't know, these nickle coils are working pretty good. Maybe I'll pick up some stainless, my local has it and they always give me good deals, sometimes freebies.
Now my next step, revisit making my own juice and break free of buying it.![]()