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I can't stand either one! But if it has to be between them it's Not! Trump!
I liked Bernie, But he's a socialist & the Americans don't like that!
Were (Canada) are socialists! have a look over here, we take care of the poor, we have free health care for everyone. Our prescription drugs are way cheeper than in the states. So were taxed to death, but we take care of our people!
Canada is not without problems. Because of your socialist gov't, you can't keep smart people in your country. How do you like working twice as hard as the next guy but getting the exact same benefits? Why bother even trying if you don't have to? That's the biggest problem with socialism.

I am seriously considering moving to another country if Hillary is elected. Maybe I'll move to Canada and live off the gov't.
 

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Every year since 1992 when Perot got into the Debates & GHWB lost the Election to WJC after winning a war, I have been convinced the DNC secretly backed these wild card candidates to divide and completely upset the Republican party's chances of winning the election and I still believe Trump was their effort for this election. Think he surprised even them by doing his job discrediting and drawing attention away from the real candidates so well he inexplicably won the nomination. Think they realized too late that his ego and love of attention would make him impossible to control.

Sad time for America because I don't believe we can withstand another 4 or 8 years led by the Democratic party. They have grown government to unprecedented levels. Government domestic overreach is way too common, pervasive, and stifling as we all can attest to on this forum with the FDA stuff and Republicans by & large tend to downsize government & reign it in. That is what this country needs right now. Will Trump do that, yes you can bet he will, but he scares the hell out of all of us. That said, I'd rather take a chance he wont start another war or push the button than allow Hillary to be in the Oval office. If Trump is in the office they will think twice before mounting an attack that's for sure.

Doesn't matter If I vote or not though because she will still win NJ (*Obamacare guaranteed).
 
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Canada is not without problems. Because of your socialist gov't, you can't keep smart people in your country. How do you like working twice as hard as the next guy but getting the exact same benefits? Why bother even trying if you don't have to? That's the biggest problem with socialism.

I am seriously considering moving to another country if Hillary is elected. Maybe I'll move to Canada and live off the gov't.

I own my own business & pay 10% tax's after expenses. I do quite well :)
I have no debit at all! I'm not your average Guy!
 

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good for you, steamer!
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I am anit-Hillary more than ever after the last few months. This country cannot afford another 4-8 years of Obama.

Racism is more of an issue now than it was before. I think social media has a big part but Obama jumps to conclusions on cop shootings before all the evidence is out, adding to the fire rather than extinguishing it. And does nothing when he's wrong. BLM started with lies and continue with lies. Black cop shoots black criminal and BLM destroys towns and cities and goes after white people.

Obamacare is costing $4k more for the average family rather than the promised $1k savings. Insurers are leaving the program en masse and will end up costing even more for those forced into it.

The world does not repsect the US and many are challenging our military. Look at Russia with their fly-by's as close as 30' from our war ships and Iran trying to intercept our war ships in int'l waters. This after we gave them 1.4 billion dollars. Russia declines a nuclear summit 18 months in advance. Putin had to wash his hair, I'm sure.

There's obviously more but most of you probably won't get this far.

NJ might be a swing state because Trump has been a major presence in this state for decades. Tpat - Don't discount your vote yet.
 

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good for you, steamer!
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It was just my response to this statement
"How do you like working twice as hard as the next guy but getting the exact same benefits?"

I didn't want to start Sh@t, I can see some of you like Trump or should I say hate Hillary?
She's a typical politician lie to your face, say what you want to hear & do what ever she wants.
I just Hate! Trump! He's part of the problem! The 1% that have been blinded by Greed!

I think we can all agree no mater who wins, nothing is going to change any way!
I will quote the Grateful Dead " The rich man in his summer home saying just leave well enough alone"
 

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Capitalist pig! :p

I absolutely hate Hillary. She's corrupt and everything she touches turns to crap. She corrupted the DOJ and FBI. Instead of going to jail, she's running for president.

I like Trump. I'm not a fanboy but I do respect him. I've never watched any of his shows but growing up in the NYC area, you hear about him all the time and most of it is good. I do believe he genuinely cares about this country and has for years. Some say you can measure a man by his children and he has raised good kids. You never heard of them going to jail, rehab or on sex tapes like other rich kids.

Nothing will change with Hillary. At least with Trump, there's a possibility of change.
 

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If Trump has been blinded by greed, Hillary is deaf, dumb and blind from greed. I think the big difference between them is Hillary got rich using the "public good" while Trump did it the old fashioned way, lie, cheat and steal but doing that while accomplishing a lot of other things, usually ahead of schedule and below budget.
 

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I own my own business & pay 10% tax's after expenses. I do quite well :)
I have no debit at all! I'm not your average Guy!

good for you, steamer!
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Amen, good for you steamer! :) You worked for it and earned it. That's the way it should be, you work hard, build a business, take the risks and reap the rewards so you can have enough money to live comfortably as well as have money to hire others. That is the American dream, but that's not the way it is here now and all due to the liberals. You wouldn't be able to do that today down here. She's going to raise taxes even more on the middle class and small business owners. Would you be ready to throw away what you worked so hard for just to keep Trump out of office? I don't like the choices, but I'm not going to cut my nose off in spite of my face. I look at it this way, if Trump get's in it will be a one term run, then we can try again in four years and Billary won't be running again.
 

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You know the Presidency is littered with people that "rose to the occasion" and actually did a good job in spite of themselves. That also works the other way, "great" people that made lousy Presidents. Who knows? If Trump wins maybe, and probably a BIG maybe, he'll rise to the occasion. Only time, and history, will tell. I just can't deal with the idea of that voice of Hillary's every day on the news for four years straight. I'll probably just not watch TV anymore to avoid it.

Steamer, if you have the time, watch "13 Hours" or, better yet watch the movie and read the book, the book has a lot more detailed info. It'll put Hillary in a whole new light for you.
 

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Sorry to hear that. :( It's always "for the children" while we all know, it's for the dollar. :grr:

I don't think much will change, maybe a 19 year old minimum to buy vape gear/juice?
Witch most provinces all ready have.
Oh & definitely some more taxes coming on vaping :( We all ready pay provincial sales tax on all gear & juice now, But I can see some kind of sin tax? They have to make their money :)
 

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