Evolv-ing Thread

[Phone Guy]

Be careful dry firing ss, never dry fire it very hot, bright orange glow, dark red is OK, but it breaks up when you get it very hot. These are pictures of a 0.4 mm SteatlhVape SS 316L coil coiling about 1 - 1.5 seconds apart.

Dude, that's a serious camera.

 

[BlueridgeDog]

Light juices may go a month (180ml) before wicking. Dark ones, one to two weeks (40 to 80ml). I re-coil when I am in the mood or the bride bribes me to do it.

 

[VapingBad]

that looks similar to mill scale...wondering if it can be thermal shocked off with a cold rinse

That's how I first noticed it dipping in one of those disposable shot glasses, try it and you will see what looks like dust coming off the coil and settling on the bottom. There was very find dust on the base of the USB Microscope I took those shots on.

I still dry fire Ni & Ti, just not too hot, and find they both clean well, ss I am even gentler with, not used NiFe much latly. I always put them through the ultrasonic before to reduce the amount of residue to burn and after to remove the residue from the dry burn.

 

[VapingBad]

Dude, that's a serious camera.

The better on in this video, but my stand was not made well enough, moves too much when focusing and I got $15 partial refund and have an engineers square held against the arm to remove the play.

 

[BlueridgeDog]

The better on in this video, but my stand was not made well enough, moves too much when focusing and I got $15 partial refund and have an engineers square held against the arm to remove the play.

I always feel Rick-Rolled when someone tricks me into watching one of his videos.

 

[Steamer861]

Back to the electric Car for a minute I think everyone is missing the blatantly obvious!
Electric Cars need a standardized battery that can be swapped out at a recharging station, a lot like a propane tank! It seems so simple to me, all cars use the same battery(like a propane tank) you don't own it, just buy the charge from the recharging station. When it's dead you swap it for a charged one, simple.
We can convert gas stations to recharging stations & they can own & maintain the batteries.

It solves all the electric Car problems no more range anxiety no more charging at your house, just swap and go, like a propane tank! I think it can be that simple

 

[mikepetro]

Back to the electric Car for a minute I think everyone is missing the blatantly obvious!
Electric Cars need a standardized battery that can be swapped out at a recharging station, a lot like a propane tank! It seems so simple to me, all cars use the same battery(like a propane tank) you don't own it, just buy the charge from the recharging station. When it's dead you swap it for a charged one, simple.
We can convert gas stations to recharging stations & they can own & maintain the batteries.

It solves all the electric Car problems no more range anxiety no more charging at your house, just swap and go, like a propane tank! I think it can be that simple

I have already seen this model used in Israel about 2 years ago, not sure if it is still in play or not. You pull into a batt station and they pull out your old bat, drop in a new one, and 15 minutes later you are on the road.

I am not sure how they handle old bats that will no longer accept a charge. As a consumer I would worry about trading our my nice fresh bat with 20 cycles for some old bat with 500 cycles. As a business owner I would worry about getting stuck with old wore out batts.

 

[Steamer861]

I am not sure how they handle old bats that will no longer accept a charge. As a consumer I would worry about trading our my nice fresh bat with 20 cycles for some old bat with 500 cycles. As a business owner I would worry about getting stuck with old wore out batts.

Thats why you don't own the battery! just like a propane tank, They own & maintain the battery.
That way no matter what you get it's just temporary like a tank of gas

 

[Steamer861]

For the system to work, the recharging stations would have to constantly maintain & recycle the batteries. But I'm sure they could for a charge, even if it cost as much as gas it would save the planet!
If nothing else

 

[mikepetro]

Thats why you don't own the battery! just like a propane tank, They own & maintain the battery.
That way no matter what you get it's just temporary like a tank of gas

Certainly a risk for somebody. I would imagine a car owner would have to place a deposit to cover the "core" in your scenario.

Not sure how "ownership" was handled in Israel.

 

[Steamer861]

Certainly a risk for somebody. I would imagine a car owner would have to place a deposit to cover the "core" in your scenario.

Not sure how "ownership" was handled in Israel.

I'm thinking propane tank, before you bought one & got it filled. You owned the tank till it was deemed obsolete & you bought a new one. Now you just swap it at the gas station. I know it would be a little more complicated with batteries but still doable IMO

 

[Tpat591]

Back to the electric Car for a minute I think everyone is missing the blatantly obvious!
Electric Cars need a standardized battery that can be swapped out at a recharging station, a lot like a propane tank! It seems so simple to me, all cars use the same battery(like a propane tank) you don't own it, just buy the charge from the recharging station. When it's dead you swap it for a charged one, simple.
We can convert gas stations to recharging stations & they can own & maintain the batteries.

It solves all the electric Car problems no more range anxiety no more charging at your house, just swap and go, like a propane tank! I think it can be that simple

Unfortunately the amount of battery power necessary to run an electrical vehicle dictates that banks of batteries in series, often covering the entire frame, are necessary so I'm afraid that makes your idea unrealistic

 

[mikepetro]

I'm thinking propane tank, before you bought one & got it filled. You owned the tank till it was deemed obsolete & you bought a new one. Now you just swap it at the gas station. I know it would be a little more complicated with batteries but still doable IMO

Limited cycle life is the challenge. Kind of like the feeling when I swap out a beautiful new propane tank only to get an old repainted one, only worse. Imagine having a brand new factory bat, and then swapping it for a fully charged one with 500 cycles.

 

[mikepetro]

Unfortunately the amount of battery power to run an electrical vehicle dictates that banks of batteries in series, often covering the entire frame, are necessary so I'm afraid that makes your idea unrealistic

In Israel they were underneath the back seat. They use a wench like rig to get the bats in and out.

 

[BillW50]

Well batteries are so old school. I am going to use dilithium crystals.

 

[Steamer861]

Unfortunately the amount of battery power necessary to run an electrical vehicle dictates that banks of batteries in series, often covering the entire frame, are necessary so I'm afraid that makes your idea unrealistic

In Israel they were underneath the back seat. They use a wench like rig to get the bats in and out.

I'm thinking more industrial scale! like a big battery that could get up to maybe 400 miles per charge.
Even if equipment was needed to swap it. I'm sure it could be worked out?

 

[awsum140]

I'll again say that unless and until a suitable, portable, relatively light weight, power source becomes available electric cars are not going to make much of a dent. Of course they could be powered through transformer action from cables buried in the roadways, but think about that kind of infrastructure expense, plus the constant exposure to heavy magnetic fields. Onboard generation is probably the best bet, but again, unless and until it just ain't gonna be practical.

Another dodge would be to drive your car until it needs a charge, then swap out for a whole other car. That assumes every car is identical which ain't ever gonna happen, at least not in my lifetime or the lifetime of my great grand kids (assuming the grandkids have kids).

 

[Tpat591]

It will always be necessary to rely on a hybrid system using an efficient fossil fuel generator and a solar cell skin to supply on board recharging capabilities & flywheels to store braking power to be used to assist in acceleration to be realistic IMHO.

 

[Steamer861]

It will always be necessary to rely on a hybrid system using an efficient fossil fuel generator and a solar cell skin to supply on board recharging capabilities to be realistic IMHO.

I'm going to disagree We have the technology to make a viable all electric Car.
Were just spit ballin here, imagine what a team of fancy engineers can do?
The key is a replaceable cell to eliminate the range issues

 

[awsum140]

No offence, Tpat, but what happens at night? I love the ads for solar power, 20000 watt systems. Yeah, 20000 watts in 24 hours with full sunlight for 24 hours. Then solar panels are being made under, shall we say, not the most environmentally friendly conditions "off shore".