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Nobody wants to admit that Podesta was, at best, extremely careless and fell for a phishing scam that could have originated from Russia or a 500 pound guy in his underwear sitting in his Mom's basement. It makes a much better story to blame it on the Russians and claim that they "hacked" the elections. The funniest part of that claim is that Hillary's poll numbers never moved, even after those emails were published, so where was that influence?
 

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That whole thing seemed to me to have gotten sensationalized and politicized for no reason. There are thousands of hackers putting out malware from just about any country on the globe. This particular incident was just some run of the mill cyber-criminal, not any type of government sponsored activity.
Political Military Industrial Corporate Propaganda Ministry hard at work. Trying their hardest to brain wash the public even after they lost the election.

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That picture reminds me when I was a kid and sat in front of the TV, Mom would yell "Move back from the TV, your going to ruin your eyes." Now we all have monitors within a few feet or less, no wonder I've worn glasses all my life. :unsure:

Yeah I blamed it on the TV....... :laugh:
 

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Cross posting this here just as an FYI. Although I am sure that most of us here in this thread expected the major CC outfits, and PP etc, to do something like this.

Gawd I hate Bitcoin, but I fear that is the road ahead......

Unless of course you have stocked up. I know a few who have. :smokie:

Winter is coming, and the night is full of dark and terrors!
Maybe, just maybe, our new President will slow the FDA down.....
Here is to "Hope"! :nun:

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Maybe if someone Tweeted Trump that the FDA Regs are killing the Vaping industry that has added thousands of new businesses and Tens of thousands of jobs to American Economy & saved thousands of lives over last 5 yrs - SAD! he would re-Tweet before checking with big Pharma. (or realized everything is made in China).
 
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And here I am blaming the poor mail man :(
Well 5 days late but the Ammit showed up today :)
I all so got some Notch coils to try them, I'm running 2 of them now.
I'm guessing their about 3mm in diameter & ohm out at .22 :)
I find I can run lower wattage, witch should equate to longer battery life?
The SS (notch coil) is a bit different than Ti witch I use normally.
IMO are they better than Ti? probably not! But they are not to bad & I will continue to run them in a few DNA mods :)
Oh BTW the Ammit seems ok, It has good air flow, & is fairly well constructed. Just a first impression for now :)
 

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Theoretically.....
Doesnt seem like they have been making "much" lately.........

Speaking of the USA, has the deeming affected any thing at all?
Seems to me, it's business as normal, despite the new legislation.
New products are coming out daily, no one seems to be, changing any thing because of the new legislation?
 

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Speaking of the USA, has the deeming affected any thing at all?
Seems to me, it's business as normal, despite the new legislation.
New products are coming out daily, no one seems to be, changing any thing because of the new legislation?
I see a fair # of places shutting down, or at least shutting down their mail order stuff.

Locally the shops seem to believe that if they had a certain flavor/strength available prior to 8/1/16 then they are covered and can still mix their own juice. Not sure that would stand up against the regs, but nobody has been brought to court by the FDA yet.

Until the FDA drags someone into court, not much else looks like it will change. I would just hate to be the poor ....... they decide to make an example out of.
 

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Speaking of the USA, has the deeming affected any thing at all?
Seems to me, it's business as normal, despite the new legislation.
New products are coming out daily, no one seems to be, changing any thing because of the new legislation?
Lot of streamlining of offerings. blends, & sizes. Mt Baker dropped 236ml bottles. Several shops closing. US suppliers not adding new mods w/o documentation of pre-8/8.
 
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I see a fair # of places shutting down, or at least shutting down their mail order stuff.

Locally the shops seem to believe that if they had a certain flavor/strength available prior to 8/1/16 then they are covered and can still mix their own juice. Not sure that would stand up against the regs, but nobody has been brought to court by the FDA yet.

Until the FDA drags someone into court, not much else looks like it will change. I would just hate to be the poor ....... they decide to make an example out of.

I just see online stuff & YT, thats why to me every thing looks the same.
I guess it is affecting the industry :(
Do you think they will come to their sense's & finally see the benefit to help smokers quit?
It seems like such a shame it's not embraced as the salvation it is for many of Us :(
 

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No, I think the FDA has taken a stance and now they have to "save face". I doubt they will change until the courts force them too.

Enforcement is still lacking though. Then again, it does on other fronts too, they have done very little to stop mail-order prescription drugs for example. They have regs on the books, so if you get get in their cross-hairs they can throw the book at you, but for whatever reason they are not being aggressive about enforcing them.
 

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