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So he was right then? & I should be using the mid-range ones & the spendy allergens ones don't actually do anything? ..

It is not so much that they don't do anything, they do filter smaller particles than do the more free flowing ones. It is that they, being more restrictive, increase the "strain" on the the fan motor and decrease air flow raising the cost of heating or cooling the house potentially causing pre-mature fan motor failure. If allergens are a concern, you might look into an electronic air filter such as the Trane Total Comfort or a similar unit by others - they all make them, all with pretty much the same efficiency and design. That is, low restriction and high filtration.
 

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the spendy allergens ones don't actually do anything?
well, apparently they do something but nothing good. they restrict airflow at the return making the system work harder and less efficient :( same effect you get when you run it with a dirty filter
 

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I have that too, what is that? I have yet to figure out what it is but I turned it off for the time being via a switch in line behind it, bc it's using up lot of electricity... Is it ionic? I thought it was an ionic filter but I was told by a neighbor that it's not.. It's behind a hepa filter mount (I also took that out) so I figured that's what it was. That part is in the hvac area which goes through the fire damper & into the ventilation...


I don't know what yours is but I had a UV air sterilizer installed.
 

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At the minimum I no longer smell a moldy musty smell every time the ac first starts up.
I have also noticed some of the tickle cough is gone.
Yes, I am allergic to mold.
DH seems to be not blowing his nose as much either.
 

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I really like the vinyl frame and pad system from AiReed Products. My HVAC guy here in FL turned me on to it, along with the orange filter media like this. It's not very restrictive, but seems to do a really excellent job of capturing crud in the air. When it's time to change the filter, ya keep the frame and only replace the media. You need a pizza cutting wheel to install the media in the frame.
 

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I really like the vinyl frame and pad system from AiReed Products. My HVAC guy here in FL turned me on to it, along with the orange filter media like this. It's not very restrictive, but seems to do a really excellent job of capturing crud in the air. When it's time to change the filter, ya keep the frame and only replace the media. You need a pizza cutting wheel to install the media in the frame.
What kind of cost? They don't have any pricing on the website.
 

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Cool I'll get some mid-grade ones

The light thing it's just like a couple of plates with the light on either side, the air flows through that then hits the hepa right after... I guess I can put the hepa back in at least, but I could literally hear how much extra work the fan was having to do with it in.

I'm not super concerned with allergies, the only thing that really gets me is dust mites, but it seems my gf is allergic to anything.
 

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I have both radiant floor heat and hvac forced air for ac and supplementary heat. The best I've found short of ionizers and uv is using a universal foam filter with filter oil. The foam is open cell so it flows just as good as the cheapo fiber filters but the air must twist and turn as it flows through the foam cells. The centrifugal force causes the dust and alergens to be thrown outward onto oily cell walls where it's captured. A quick spray with 409, purple power or mean green and the oil and nasties come right out. Not sure why I stopped using those filters, lazy I guess.
 

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This is the one I got for my daughter's ac system, it may not filter fine enough for some needs. For her system, the intake/filter is in the ceiling of the hallway, it recycles inside air, the system doesn't draw any air from outside. Being up on the ceiling and being an inside filter there is no need to have a fine filter, more of a dust and pet hair filter, although it says it will capture pollen but any pollen would already be inside so..... Inside the filter it has a thin foam piece (I think on each side, maybe just one) then the finer mesh filter, just unsnap the frame, slide the filters out, rinse under a faucet and let dry.

https://www.amazon.com/WEB-Eco-Filter-Adjustable-Year/dp/B001M5EFMG
 

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What size fluorocarbon should I be using? rn I've got 12 on there but I've also got 6 & 10 sitting around somewhere that I never used again bc I think it caused backlashes... Improved clinch knot is for the hook side right? So I'd have to do it with both ends of the leader?
Kiba, I miss spoke. It's actually a Blood Knot. I'm getting old and I'm confusing my knots.......
I'm hoping the images I attached helps explain. Another would be a Double Uni Knot. Knots can be an art form just like coils. Oh, and don't forget to wet your knots before you tighten them down. I used to place the tags ends in my teeth and wet the line good as I pull on the lines. Dry knots don't hold so well. I also forgot to try and answer your question. It depends..... Not all lines are created equal and I've not used braided but with that said, say your using a 30lbs braided, you may have to start with a 40-50lbs fluorocarbon to get the the knot to hold to get the dia. of each close. 12" of 50lbs fluoro, then another 12" of say 35lbs, etc. until you get the tippet size you want next to the hook/lure. There is a calculation for lbs/dia. to length I would just need to find it. I hope this helps and doesn't make your search harder. Again from a fly fishing point of view, tippet creation can be a little touchy so you get a smooth roll casting your line and don't get a hinge effect.
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Kiba, I miss spoke. It's actually a Blood Knot. I'm getting old and I'm confusing my knots.......
I'm hoping the images I attached helps explain. Another would be a Double Uni Knot. Knots can be an art form just like coils. Oh, and don't forget to wet your knots before you tighten them down. I used to place the tags ends in my teeth and wet the line good as I pull on the lines. Dry knots don't hold so well. I also forgot to try and answer your question. It depends..... Not all lines are created equal and I've not used braided but with that said, say your using a 30lbs braided, you may have to start with a 40-50lbs fluorocarbon to get the the knot to hold to get the dia. of each close. 12" of 50lbs fluoro, then another 12" of say 35lbs, etc. until you get the tippet size you want next to the hook/lure. There is a calculation for lbs/dia. to length I would just need to find it. I hope this helps and doesn't make your search harder. Again from a fly fishing point of view, tippet creation can be a little touchy so you get a smooth roll casting your line and don't get a hinge effect.
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Ok cool, I'll start with the blood knot as that looks relatively remember-able. If all else fails I'll use the glue, not trying to have any more fish swimming around with leaders on them.
This is the one I got for my daughter's ac system, it may not filter fine enough for some needs. For her system, the intake/filter is in the ceiling of the hallway, it recycles inside air, the system doesn't draw any air from outside. Being up on the ceiling and being an inside filter there is no need to have a fine filter, more of a dust and pet hair filter, although it says it will capture pollen but any pollen would already be inside so..... Inside the filter it has a thin foam piece (I think on each side, maybe just one) then the finer mesh filter, just unsnap the frame, slide the filters out, rinse under a faucet and let dry.

https://www.amazon.com/WEB-Eco-Filter-Adjustable-Year/dp/B001M5EFMG
Is that any different from this one? (I had this one in cart already) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0026SNZF6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_z7TZAb390BSNC
It'll be good to have a reusable one.
I have both radiant floor heat and hvac forced air for ac and supplementary heat. The best I've found short of ionizers and uv is using a universal foam filter with filter oil. The foam is open cell so it flows just as good as the cheapo fiber filters but the air must twist and turn as it flows through the foam cells. The centrifugal force causes the dust and alergens to be thrown outward onto oily cell walls where it's captured. A quick spray with 409, purple power or mean green and the oil and nasties come right out. Not sure why I stopped using those filters, lazy I guess.
Is it the water radiant heat? My grandmother had the only one I've seen, which I saw them putting in & was pretty interesting, basically water tubes wrapped around posts & then filled in with concrete, but she was doing major renovations on an old Victorian house. Idk how you'd ever install that in a regular house.

She also had air/floor heat but she basically had no choice w/the floor, being no insulation from the outside air underneath the house. They had to basically install a foundation.
 

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