Evolv-ing Thread

[kiba]

Same company, and it's supposed to be very, very close. Then again, the original Bobas wasn't the most consistent stuff around to begin with. I liked it a lot back then, but I didn't like the way it gunked up wicks and coils. As in fill a freshly wicked KF, and don't bother refilling it without rewicking it first.

Yeah the stuff was pretty nasty. It tasted pretty good when you could get some but yeah it needed a fresh coil & never tasted the same way twice. When I used to order some for my freind in Canada, I'd order a bottle or two whenever I could & whenever I got it I'd fill up a tank w/ it... One time I got bottles from (seemingly) 3different places, 3 different labels 3different bottles.

So some company cloned it? What happened to the original recipe?

Its probably the only juice I never got very close to cloning. I did have a pretty good pluid clone. I did that for a freind though never really liked pluid. I do remember getting all excited about his orange juice when it came out but it wasn't very good. There ended up being a ton of it on the classie's

Do you remember the silly excuses for why they couldn't keep them in stock? & then it would come out & people would gladly pay $60 for a 30ml.

 

[tiburonfirst]

 

[dwcraig1]

 

[ShamrockPat]

I didn't even think of that. If it is though I'll just roll over the top with a roller, I'm actually starting to enjoy it in some sadistic way,

Why, no one I know can see it without standing on a stool. I did it a couple times and found it a very rough cutting filled with shavings and 20 years of dusty crap that contaminated the roller. Did you ever find a human hair on your semi dry wall, and just knew you had to remove it and repaint that spot?
My older Pro buddies enjoyed painting more back in the pre-latex days when the oil paint put them in a chilled mood.

 

[Rossum]

So some company cloned it? What happened to the original recipe?

In don't think anyone ever succeeded in making a good clone of Bobas. AVE made it originally, and is making it again now. The reason they stopped for a while is that one of the flavoring ingredients in the original recipe was no longer available. I'm not sure whether that flavoring is now available again, or whether they finally found an acceptable substitute.

 

[tiburonfirst]

Why, no one I know can see it without standing on a stool. I did it a couple times and found it a very rough cutting filled with shavings and 20 years of dusty crap that contaminated the roller. Did you ever find a human hair on your semi dry wall, and just knew you had to remove it and repaint that spot?
My older Pro buddies enjoyed painting more back in the pre-latex days when the oil paint put them in a chilled mood.

well, that edge isn't suitable for rolling anyhow for stuff like that those disposable brushes and sponges are a good choice. oh, and btw not sealing that edge voids whatever warranty is given on wood doors

 

[dwcraig1]

I'd be in a real pickle if I bought some (Boba's) and really liked it. The atomizer that I would be using it in uses around 0.3 - 0.4 ml per hit

 

[classwife]

I'd be in a real pickle if I bought some (Boba's) and really liked it. The atomizer that I would be using it in uses around 0.3 - 0.4 ml per hit

Wow !

 

[awsum140]

Speaking of door top edges and sealing them...ever think about the bottom edge? That should be sealed, too. Unfortunately, the only way to do that is to pull the hinge pin and take the door out of the frame. When I was painting houses, and doing the trim work as well, I always did the top and bottom edges of all the doors before I hung them, while I was busy doing the walls and ceilings. Just two coats of clear urethane to seal the end grains. Of course, that was back when doors were actually wood and not composite, AKA plastic.

I just installed the "Material-ish" theme on my 75C. Now I won't have to fool with theme designer. There's also a "basic" theme that is more like the stock one from Evolv. Both include "replay" which I really, really, like.

 

[Alexander Mundy]

lol maybe it's bc I've been painting but for some reason the thought of painters just casually painting over light switches & smoke detectors is hilarious to me.

Not so much yesterday. My Daughter closed on her first house Thursday and I changed out the devices yesterday. Many layers of paint and in some rooms layer(s) of old wall paper with paint below and after. Took way too long and had to use my linesman pliers to remove almost all of the old flat blade screws because of the paint. Good thing was I found only a few DIY modifications that I had to deal with to make safe. Non electricians should not screw with home wiring without getting a permit and inspections. I'm sure they think they are doing it right and heck it worked but I've seen some things throughout the years that ended up badly. Here is a WTH from yesterday. So glad I went through her house, there were 3 other WTH's before I took pics of this one.

BTW, that ground wire went to the receptacle that was added and did nothing since the original system was non grounded romex. There were several other grounding receptacles that someone installed but not anymore. Sheesh, they still make non grounded receptacles and besides being againt code why install grounding receptacles that aren't grounded? Might as well just rip that ground off the plug in, same result except giving a false impression that it's grounded to someone else. False grounding (also wrapping the neutral around the ground terminal) can actually be more dangerous so don't do that and most inspectors don't spend the $ for the tester that reveals it. Found 1 of those yesterday the home inspector missed. Also replaced the Buchanan crimps I found that were popular in the early 60's by properly twisting the wires then good wire nuts. Been on my fair share of service calls where they were failing. All this was after I officially fixed (as an electrical contractor) the things a week ago that the home inspector found. Found about 4 things that were for sure future problems and possibly fires and about a dozen other things I tidied up besides the Buchanans. All were obviously homeowner or "good friend" done.

Rant over.

 

[kiba]

Why, no one I know can see it without standing on a stool. I did it a couple times and found it a very rough cutting filled with shavings and 20 years of dusty crap that contaminated the roller. Did you ever find a human hair on your semi dry wall, and just knew you had to remove it and repaint that spot?
My older Pro buddies enjoyed painting more back in the pre-latex days when the oil paint put them in a chilled mood.

I kind of hate it/like it at the same time, the human hair thing I have to dig them out or it'll just bug me

In don't think anyone ever succeeded in making a good clone of Bobas. AVE made it originally, and is making it again now. The reason they stopped for a while is that one of the flavoring ingredients in the original recipe was no longer available. I'm not sure whether that flavoring is now available again, or whether they finally found an acceptable substitute.

Oh it's still alien visions making it? I didn't think they were still around

Speaking of door top edges and sealing them...ever think about the bottom edge? That should be sealed, too. Unfortunately, the only way to do that is to pull the hinge pin and take the door out of the frame. When I was painting houses, and doing the trim work as well, I always did the top and bottom edges of all the doors before I hung them, while I was busy doing the walls and ceilings. Just two coats of clear urethane to seal the end grains. Of course, that was back when doors were actually wood and not composite, AKA plastic.

I just installed the "Material-ish" theme on my 75C. Now I won't have to fool with theme designer. There's also a "basic" theme that is more like the stock one from Evolv. Both include "replay" which I really, really, like.

Another thing I forgot about... [emoji52] I could probably get under them with my smallest brush though since I don't have carpets

 

[kiba]

Not so much yesterday. My Daughter closed on her first house Thursday and I changed out the devices yesterday. Many layers of paint and in some rooms layer(s) of old wall paper with paint below and after. Took way too long and had to use my linesman pliers to remove almost all of the old flat blade screws because of the paint. Good thing was I found only a few DIY modifications that I had to deal with to make safe. Non electricians should not screw with home wiring without getting a permit and inspections. I'm sure they think they are doing it right and heck it worked but I've seen some things throughout the years that ended up badly. Here is a WTH from yesterday. So glad I went through her house, there were 3 other WTH's before I took pics of this one.

BTW, that ground wire went to the receptacle that was added and did nothing since the original system was non grounded romex. There were several other grounding receptacles that someone installed but not anymore. Sheesh, they still make non grounded receptacles and besides being againt code why install grounding receptacles that aren't grounded? Might as well just rip that ground off the plug in, same result except giving a false impression that it's grounded to someone else. False grounding (also wrapping the neutral around the ground terminal) can actually be more dangerous so don't do that and most inspectors don't spend the $ for the tester that reveals it. Found 1 of those yesterday the home inspector missed. Also replaced the Buchanan crimps I found that were popular in the early 60's by properly twisting the wires then good wire nuts. Been on my fair share of service calls where they were failing. All this was after I officially fixed (as an electrical contractor) the things a week ago that the home inspector found. Found about 4 things that were for sure future problems and possibly fires and about a dozen other things I tidied up besides the Buchanans. All were obviously homeowner or "good friend" done.

Rant over.

What year was the house built? I remember my inspector testing all the grounds on all the outlets in case someone had screwed with them but at the time/place mine was built all the boxes had to be grounded so everything was good.

Also required every so & so feet one of these

 

[ShamrockPat]

and btw not sealing that edge voids whatever warranty is given on wood doors

Thanks Tibs, did not know about warranties as I haven't needed to buy one.

Speaking of door top edges and sealing them...ever think about the bottom edge? That should be sealed, too.

Sorta like checking your car spare tire is still holding pressure.

Non electricians should not screw with home wiring without getting a permit and inspections.

That's me. I'm no longer allowed .... wifey's orders. I had a 3 switch recetacle, and all I wanted to do was move their position's to a logical order. Nope, no need to turn off the breaker. I wasn't unscrewing anything .... big BIG wrong. After it blew me 3 feet across the room I got yelled at. It took out the entire breaker at the panel.

 

[kiba]

^Lol I've been shocked putting in lutron switches, not that bad though, maybe bc of the shoes I was wearing.

Please explain logical order this intrigues me

So what does she do if she doesn't have a ground?

 

[kiba]

Here's a question... I've noticed the new dryer catches about 100x more stuff in the lint trap than the old one. Granted the old one was as old as the house ~18yrs but is that normal? It's literally packed to the gills behind a load, if someone ever forgot to clean it I don't think it would be very good.

 

[awsum140]

Kiba, higher air flow (more efficient) and a finer filter. Yeah, you've got to remember to clean it but on the other hand, besides a thumb and four fingers, it reduces the amount of lint that reaches your vent system, the brighter side.

I rarely shut off power when working on house wiring other than 220. 110 is sort of a heavy tickle to me at my advance age plus I've learned the one hand technique and use tools with insulated handles. I do have a few scars on screwdriver shanks and sides of needle nose, but other than that I hardly ever get "bit". The only exception is if I'm going to be working outside on a ladder then the power gets shut down.

 

[Alexander Mundy]

What year was the house built? I remember my inspector testing all the grounds on all the outlets in case someone had screwed with them but at the time/place mine was built all the boxes had to be grounded so everything was good.

Also required every so & so feet one of these

1961

 

[Alexander Mundy]

120V 60Hz can paralyze your muscles where you can't move but you are aware the whole time and it feels like a million ants are crawling all over your body. Seemed like forever but it was probably less than a minute. 240V 60Hz (USA) is 120V to ground with each phase being 180 degrees out of phase with each other so as long as you don't touch both phases at the same time it's no different than 120V. Touch both and you will feel it in your fillings and taste it afterwards but your muscles have a better chace of contracting off it. All depends on how moist your skin is. 277V high leg 3 phase delta demands extra respect and is the reason the code stipulates than it must be orange. I rarely work on industrial anymore because my company specializes in residential, but I saw an electrician carried out under a sheet many years ago at a large facility. OSHA report was proper lock out tag out was used on the 480V panel but someone had used the conduit for a return neutral path on another circuit in another panel so when he pulled apart the empty conduit he was fried by a 120V lighting circuit. Multiple violations there and big lawsuit.

 

[awsum140]

Skin resistance and path are the whole key. Dry skin, enough callus and not being grounded, the one hand rule, limits the risks to a pretty low level. From hand to hand can get fatal pretty quickly. I found DC mixed with 100 watts of UHF RF to be most "illuminating", especially since I was in a semi-damp basement. Blew me across the room.

Using conduit for a neutral return is definite no-no to say the least. Chances are, even if the panel had been totally de-energized he would have had the same results since the source/load using the conduit for neutral wasn't. The only thing that would work there is rubber gloves, and even then the arcing that would happen wouldn't be a lot of fun either.

 

[kiba]

1961

Ah that's like my gf's mother's condo its in a high-rise built in 1959 & the boxes/plumbing/wiring there is really different compared to mine. I was putting in those lutron switches so she could dim her lights & I got shocked a couple of times. Nothing was labeled in the breaker so I left everything on [emoji39].

I put a couple of those in my place but we decided to go with all hue lights so it's pretty much pointless now, the fan ones are good though, you don't have to go digging around for the remotes.