Evolv-ing Thread

[BillW50]

As far as popping on a hot coil, that will never happen with me. I'm far to OCD to make that kind of mistake (or at least I want to think so ).

No, I don't do this by mistake, I do it on purpose. Power mode only, doesn't care about hot or cold coils. Although I don't really like power mode only. As you get a different vape all of the time and have to fiddle with power a lot. But TC mode does care about coil temperature in respect to temperature calibration.

But I throw hot coils on any TC mod all of the time. It's not hard, I just readjust. From experience, I know if it is really hot, I need to adjust the temperature at least 200F lower. Then I just need a little vape and I instantly know if I am 50, 100, 150, or whatever too low and jump it up by what amount I believe it is. And I am almost never wrong. And if I guessed 20 to 30 too high. No harm done and no big deal. I'll just be better next time.

Of course I can now chain vape under TC and everything is fine. TC is keeping the temp right where I want it and all. But if I stop vaping and let it sit for minutes, 10s of minutes or whatever. And the TC mod now grabs that lower resistance. Still not a problem. Maybe I'll forget and start vaping and it will be way too cold. No big deal. I'll guess it is say 150F too cold. So I'll bump it up by 150F. Maybe it is on the money, or maybe it is 10 to 20 too low or too high. But it will be close and I'll tweak it right in.

 

[SlickWilly]

None of it is really TC, more of a temperature protection. Replay throttles back the power when the wick gets dry which is TC enough for me. Still 1000x times better than most of the other feeble attempts at TC by the other mod manufacturers.

It's why I choose to use only Evolv boards, they set the bar with TC and they keep raising it, the others "try" to follow. But I'm in the odd man out club when it comes to vaping, I worry and want my vaping to be as reasonably safe as it can be, I know that's Evolv's goal so to follow them only makes sense, for me.

 

[SlickWilly]

If you have access to the Velocity TV channel (shows for car nuts) there was a new My Classic Car episode that aired today (season 5 episode 24) that was very cool. A guy had a couple vintage 50's cars he built and with them he had period matching tow behinds, one was a 1957 wood boat and trailer to match the car and the other he made a duplicate trailer from a spare car to haul a period matching Harley Davidson, very cool. Being released today it may be some time before they make it available on demand but it's worth keeping an eye out for.
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[cigatron]

TC is keeping the temp right where I want it and all. But if I stop vaping and let it sit for minutes, 10s of minutes or whatever. And the TC mod now grabs that lower resistance. Still not a problem. Maybe I'll forget and start vaping and it will be way too cold. No big deal. I'll guess it is say 150F too cold. So I'll bump it up by 150F. Maybe it is on the money, or maybe it is 10 to 20 too low or too high. But it will be close and I'll tweak it right in

If I had to do all that to get a consistent tc vape I'd crush the mod with a ball peen hammer.

 

[BillW50]

If I had to do all that to get a consistent tc vape I'd crush the mod with a ball peen hammer.

Well then you have to wait 20 minutes or so before you vape a hot coil on another TC mod. While I have been vaping in TC for the last 20 minutes or so.

 

[cigatron]

Well then you have to wait 20 minutes or so before you vape a hot coil on another TC mod. While I have been vaping in TC for the last 20 minutes or so.

Agreed. If I was an atty swapper I would have tried replay already. I have dedicated mod/atty combos.

 

[BillW50]

Agreed. If I was an atty swapper I would have tried replay already. I have dedicated mod/atty combos.

Yes I usually pair things up too, so I am not usually swapping. And I remember what juice is always loaded in what pair. It makes things simple that way. But sometimes you hit a problem. I dunno, TC seems wavy, may not be hitting right, etc. And the quickest thing to do is to separate the pair and see which one is acting up and then go from there.

 

[SlickWilly]

I tend to chain vape more than not and I can't vape the same flavor too long before my tongue just stops tasting, also the flavor drops once the atty gets hot so I always have a few mod/atty's in rotation with different flavors in them.

Been using the replay for a few hours now and I'm really liking the consistency. Just came from the basement where my table saw is setup with a sanding disk, I use it to take the taper off the sides of the raw Hammond boxes, just straighten the sides on the last G box I have. I'll have to pick up a couple more boxes and more shelf pins while in the big city for a doc appointment tomorrow. Looks like some of Mama's honey-do list is going to wait while I build more C's, I'm liking it! Gonna be a temptation to make them pretty, this one I just built is .... ugly left as is but it works well, it just takes a lot of time to make them pretty, must resist....

 

[BillW50]

I tend to chain vape more than not and I can't vape the same flavor too long before my tongue just stops tasting, also the flavor drops once the atty gets hot so I always have a few mod/atty's in rotation with different flavors in them.

Same here. I have six all lined up on my desk and I hit 5 of them today. Oops, I just hit the 6th one.

 

[TrollDragon]

It's why I choose to use only Evolv boards, they set the bar with TC and they keep raising it, the others "try" to follow. But I'm in the odd man out club when it comes to vaping, I worry and want my vaping to be as reasonably safe as it can be, I know that's Evolv's goal so to follow them only makes sense, for me.

I have too many non TC rigs to worry about my vape hitting a specific temp. The wife has been hounding me about all this flavoring stuff that been floating around. So nothing is really safe in the long run, vaping is the lesser of two evils.

If you have access to the Velocity TV channel (shows for car nuts) there was a new My Classic Car episode that aired today (season 5 episode 24) that was very cool. A guy had a couple vintage 50's cars he built and with them he had period matching tow behinds, one was a 1957 wood boat and trailer to match the car and the other he made a duplicate trailer from a spare car to haul a period matching Harley Davidson, very cool. Being released today it may be some time before they make it available on demand but it's worth keeping an eye out for.
My Classic Car | Watch Full Episodes & More! - Velocity

Roadkill has stopped putting their episodes on YouTube which is a bummer. I liked that show, but I'm not going to give MotorTrend $5 a month to watch it. Supposedly they are going to make the episodes free (with ads) for non subscribers 8 weeks after air date... We'll see how that goes.
http://www.roadkill.com/videos/

 

[TrollDragon]

I tend to chain vape more than not and I can't vape the same flavor too long before my tongue just stops tasting, also the flavor drops once the atty gets hot so I always have a few mod/atty's in rotation with different flavors in them.

Been using the replay for a few hours now and I'm really liking the consistency. Just came from the basement where my table saw is setup with a sanding disk, I use it to take the taper off the sides of the raw Hammond boxes, just straighten the sides on the last G box I have. I'll have to pick up a couple more boxes and more shelf pins while in the big city for a doc appointment tomorrow. Looks like some of Mama's honey-do list is going to wait while I build more C's, I'm liking it! Gonna be a temptation to make them pretty, this one I just built is .... ugly left as is but it works well, it just takes a lot of time to make them pretty, must resist....

The Alpinetech boxes don't have the Hammond lean and are much nicer to work with.
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[BillW50]

Same here. I have six all lined up on my desk and I hit 5 of them today. Oops, I just hit the 6th one.

Second oops! I forgot that one has 24mg of nic in it. I maybe am done vaping for the next 60 minutes or more.

 

[TrollDragon]

Same here. I have six all lined up on my desk and I hit 5 of them today. Oops, I just hit the 6th one.

I always have 5 rigs in the EDC bag.

 

[cigatron]

I always have 5 rigs in the EDC bag.

Me too, 5 or 6 rigs, 6 100ml bottles of diy juice, 5 or 6 charged 18650's and a box of coil building tools......oh, and Rayon of course. It is rare that I would do any maintenance while out and about but I keep it all in there anyway. My DW calls it my Murse.

 

[SlickWilly]

The Alpinetech boxes don't have the Hammond lean and are much nicer to work with.
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Yeah but I'm cheap, the boxes are only $7 with tax at the electronics shop I go to. It really doesn't take long to drill the holes and file the usb and screen openings, that aluminum is soft and files easily and quickly. Drill and cut templates really speed up things, I use a x-acto knife to cut out the usb and screen locations on the template, tape them to the box then use a magic marker to ink those areas onto the box and they give me the locations to prickk punch the drilling locations. I go back over the screen and usb openings lightly scribe layout lines to give sharp, straight lines to file up to.

I can build a mod pretty cheaply using the raw boxes, about $15 for the box, 510 and shelf pins for the buttons, add the cost of a board on top of that. The battery's I'm using were freebies, the wire and screws I have plenty of. Yeah, I'm cheap...

 

[awsum140]

I'm cheap, too, Willie, but I'm lazier than cheap. Alpine Tech works for me very nicely, grate fit and finish. I can't say I like their dua, 2x700 sleds though. The negative spring needs to do some Ahnold style workouts to be strong enough.

 

[TrollDragon]

Me too, 5 or 6 rigs, 6 100ml bottles of diy juice, 5 or 6 charged 18650's and a box of coil building tools......oh, and Rayon of course. It is rare that I would do any maintenance while out and about but I keep it all in there anyway. My DW calls it my Murse.

I carry it all in my Nut Sac...

 

[BillW50]

I have too many non TC rigs to worry about my vape hitting a specific temp. The wife has been hounding me about all this flavoring stuff that been floating around. So nothing is really safe in the long run, vaping is the lesser of two evils.

Yes well... one of my juices I guess doesn't want anybody to later say you didn't tell us and they clearly noted on the bottle website that it contains diacetyl (that's the 24mg one). Or maybe California put them up to it. Anyway diacetyl is also found naturally in: apples, artichokes, beans, butter, coffee, dairy, fruits, honey, and vinegar. So what are you going to do? Just don't eat or drink anything and die?

 

[mikepetro]

REPLAY essentially works off of duplicating the "live ohm" curve of your seed puff.

That "seed puff" can come from either TC mode or wattage mode.

If you care about max temp, then you should use TC mode for the seed puff, as that is the only way you will have any confidence you arent exceeding max. While it may sound redundant, it really isnt. We have all seen builds that would go wonkers in TC mode but REPLAY smooths that out.

The reason you need TC wire, and reason it doesnt care what kind if you seed from wattage mode, is that it still needs to have enough of a resistance change to track the change in LIVE ohms during the puff. Non TC wire doesnt have enough resistance delta.

So, once you capture a seed puff, it then try to duplicate the LIVE ohms trace of that puff, which gives great repeatability, BUT no temperature protection unless the SEED was obtain from TC mode. If the seed came from wattage mode then you have ZERO clue what the temps are because REPLAY has no clue what the TCR is, it is simply looking at the LIVE ohm change.

TBH, I see Evolv moving away from TC and promoting REPLAY, which unfortunately leaves us with no clue what temps we are actually running. It is a response to the market, the vast majority of folks love the quality of a DNA but most dont run in TC mode.

 

[Steamer861]

Roadkill has stopped putting their episodes on YouTube which is a bummer. I liked that show, but I'm not going to give MotorTrend $5 a month to watch it. Supposedly they are going to make the episodes free (with ads) for non subscribers 8 weeks after air date... We'll see how that goes.

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TBH, I see Evolv moving away from TC and promoting REPLAY, which unfortunately leaves us with no clue what temps we are actually running. It is a response to the market, the vast majority of folks love the quality of a DNA but most dont run in TC mode.

I dont care about the "Vast majority" I use TC & it better not be going away!