What the hell Windows 10!
At 3AM, I went to make a cup of coffee. Came back to my Lenovo Legion Y530, i7 with 16GB of RAM and the screen was blank and the hard drive was chugging along like crazy. I was using it for the past 4 hours prior and everything was running just fine. It continued for another 10 minutes before the screen came to life and it logs on to Windows and the desktop appears. What just happened? Windows update or something? No warning whatsoever! Everything I had opened was just gone!
Clicking on the desktop and nothing happens until minutes later after the click. Hard drive still chugging along. I manage to coax the Task Manager open and I checked what was going on. The disk drive is at 100% and a program called MsMpEng.exe is the cause of it all. What the hell, that is Microsoft Defender! It is scanning every freaken file on the hard drive. Does it also reboot your computer without warning?
You know whatever I see supposedly unbiased third parties test Defender against other anti-malware programs, Defender always scores last. I don't know why Microsoft even does anything in the security business? They are really bad at it. They should leave it to the experts who knows what they are doing. As far as I am concern, it shouldn't even be on any of my machines and it is just a waste of disk space.
So I did a Win+R and typed winver and it reported back build 1803. So the build didn't change. I got to the Windows event logs and I can't find anything related to why Windows rebooted without warning. I don't know how you people put up with this Windows 10. Thank goodness I have plenty of machines that if one goes down it isn't a real big deal for me. But what about people who only has one machine?
If it weren't for you Bill, I would have totally forgotten all about those WTF Widows moments!
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I use a third party antivirus program and have never had a problem with MS "Defender" at all. I have four Windoohs 10 machines in use, one 34/7/365, two all day every day and another used a few time a week. My big gripe is software, installed by me, always wants to update at the worst possible moment, like when I'm in a rush to do something or when I'm shutting down. I usually just ignore it and go back to it later, so even that isn't much of a problem in reality. Why you seem to have so much difficulty with Windoohs 10 beats the heck out of me.
Yeah well I am not too happy there either. Currently my iPhone keeps asking me daily to update to iOS 13.3. And daily, I tell it later. We play this game until hundreds of times later my finger accidentally touches the install now and then its game over.If it weren't for you Bill, I would have totally forgotten all about those ... Widows moments!
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Ran Windows 10 since the day it was released and all I've ever used on it was Defender. Never a problem and I only have one machine.
I've always done a clean Windows 10 install on the laptop the wife uses (Acer & HP), to clean out the bloatware that comes installed from the factory, maybe the Lenovo was doing an update to all it's crap. How long have these machines been in service, maybe it's time for a fresh OEM Windows reinstall and not from the factory system or recovery disks.
I've always done a clean Windows 10 install on the laptop the wife uses (Acer & HP), to clean out the bloatware that comes installed from the factory, maybe the Lenovo was doing an update to all it's crap. How long have these machines been in service, maybe it's time for a fresh OEM Windows reinstall and not from the factory system or recovery disks.
Well I do have three other Windows 10 machines that I don't use much, just this one sees a lot of use. And those other Windows 10 machines I noticed, you can't just turn them on for 10 minutes every 2 months like other Windows machines prior. If you run them often enough, they sort of behave. And they will wake up in the middle of the night anyway and do updates too while your sleeping. Which is a kin to Microsoft coming into your house while you sleep and doing things and then leaving the front door wide open.
In Defender's defense, it did warn me a few days ago that it really, really, needs to run. Me, being who I am said it will be a cold day in hell before I manually run Defender. Maybe when you get such a warning, you go ahead and let it do its thing. And since I do not, maybe this is why I have to suffer this grieve?
You can fix your MsMpEng.exe problem here.
What is Msmpeng.exe and Should You Remove It?
Of just install Avast etc on the machine, but do a custom install and don't include any of the silly features like PC optimization etc. I haven't installed Avast in years though so things might have changed with it's functionality. It's all we ever put on customers PCs unless they had Norton, Kaspersky or some other paid virus program.
What is Msmpeng.exe and Should You Remove It?
Of just install Avast etc on the machine, but do a custom install and don't include any of the silly features like PC optimization etc. I haven't installed Avast in years though so things might have changed with it's functionality. It's all we ever put on customers PCs unless they had Norton, Kaspersky or some other paid virus program.
Haven't run any anti virus in a long time! I just ran malware bytes & it found nothing! For me Mac is the Easy Button
I'v been working on some old macs my kids don't use any more.
A 27" iMac from 2009 & a13" Macbook Pro from 2010, there a little slow now, but still solid units! Sure we paid a lot for these new, but over this amount of time, they were a bargain Over all this time. I changed a fan in the Macbook & a HD in the iMac ! Only issues software or hardware we have had with both units
BTW there are 1496 cycles on the battery in the Macbook & it still works!
A 27" iMac from 2009 & a13" Macbook Pro from 2010, there a little slow now, but still solid units! Sure we paid a lot for these new, but over this amount of time, they were a bargain
Over all this time. I changed a fan in the Macbook & a HD in the iMac ! Only issues software or hardware we have had with both units BTW there are 1496 cycles on the battery in the Macbook & it still works!
I've got to take my old Macbook C2D to the recycle depot, just haven't got around to putting a nail through the HD yet.
always been a big fan of malwarebytes but it's starting to annoy me. apparently, there's an update available - no problem - but why send a pop-up to my desktop every time i take my laptop out of sleep mode
i'll match you, year for year, with a dell. except for the 2009 (my son's college laptop) which just recently had the charging port go bad and a 2010 (son's birthday present) which i'm using every day atm.
yup - both were gifted back to me
Did your Defender ever find anything? I never saw Defender ever complain about anything here ever. It's like it is there and goes through the motions, but it never does anything.
Yup, I am a big believer in if your going to do updates, it always works best from a clean install. Doing otherwise tends to either crash the system or at best causes the machine to run slower and slower by slapping updates one by one. I think they do this on purpose so one day you just give up and just buy a new machine. Then you think your new machine so much faster than your old machine. It isn't really, if you just did a clean install on your old one and then update if you want, it would have been just fine.
My Windows 10 machines are either HP or Lenovo. Neither are too terribly bad for bloatware. I believe both came with a trial version of McAfee LiveSafe I think, which is the first thing that came off. I always had good luck with Avast and I gave up on the others like 15 years ago. Both HP and Lenovo has an utility to check for driver updates and both can be set to manual install only. So they won't do so automatically.
Well this Lenovo Legion Y530 came first and first ran back in May 2019. The other 3 came a few months later. And they shouldn't be too far from stock, since I try to stop all updates and such anyway. Now if I can keep Microsoft's paws off of it for the next 15 years, they should be just fine.
I've never had a machine "wake up" in the middle of the night for anything from MS. That includes the Windoohs 10/Pro that runs my backups. That machine gets turned on twice a week in the evening to do its backup chores overnight, then gets shut down in the morning so it's running maybe 24 hours per week total. I've never heard that MS is waking up machines so they can "update" things to, what they claim, is the latest and greatest. There are ways to prevent that, just unplug it from power or the network.
Oh yeah, the third party antivirus disables Defender, but that can also be done, manually, inside Windoohs 10.
Oh yeah, the third party antivirus disables Defender, but that can also be done, manually, inside Windoohs 10.
Yup, I thought about it. If it is only going to be a problem when it cries it really, really has to run bad... I dunno.
Yup, I've been using Avast for about 15 years now and it was the best out of the lot. And yes, turning off the extra stuff makes it less annoying. Although it still tries to annoy you by telling it you found broken registry links, programs slowing your machine down, etc. And I assure you that on a machine that is barely able to run Windows by itself, it's Avast that is slowing the machine down looking for stuff to tell you about. And on my gaming PCs, there is nothing slowing them down any except Defender. Otherwise they are usually running with less than 10% CPU use and virtually no disk use and fan speed idling.
i'll match you, year for year, with a dell. except for the 2009 (my son's college laptop) which just recently had the charging port go bad and a 2010 (son's birthday present) which i'm using every day atm.
yup - both were gifted back to me
Not bad!
Have a look on Ebay & see what you can still get for those units?
The 2 mac 's held there value nicely
I was actually shocked, when I saw what old Macs sell for!
always been a big fan of malwarebytes but it's starting to annoy me. apparently, there's an update available - no problem - but why send a pop-up to my desktop every time i take my laptop out of sleep mode
I just remove it after I use it! I'l D/L it again when I need to run it again
The less crap spying on me the better
I've never had Defender find anything as I don't play with too many bootleg utilities or games. I have a core set of apps and utils that I use and don't bother checking out or trying new stuff. The wife was bad for that for a bit, but she finally stopped down loading things that "might be useful" at some point.
If I ever have to run anything that might be a little nefarious or check out a sketchy website, I use Sandboxie to do that (free for home use). You can run your browser in it or any program that you download, as it isolates it from the rest of your system. When you are done you can just delete the sand box and all traces are gone.
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