Yeah, a Mac Mini is considerably smaller than what's traditionally considered an "SFF" PC. The Dells I got recently are about 11" x 12" x and a bit under 4" thick.I agree about desk top computers. I left it open due to the fact I am unfamiliar with the small size form factor market. Intel, Asus, Gigabyte, Zotec, just to name a few are all competing against Apple’s Mac Mini which is soldered on RAM and CPU. In order to meet a certain form factor, something has to be compromised – ie: CPU and RAM sockets.

