But that is scientifically impossible. Before the COVID-19, it had to be something else and then mutate into the COVID-19. But China has no such viruses that could mutate into COVID-19.
But that is scientifically impossible. Before the COVID-19, it had to be something else and then mutate into the COVID-19. But China has no such viruses that could mutate into COVID-19.
And where is the credible source that claims covid-19 came from Forth Detrick? Just because a lab closes, even if it was due to work hazards, that does not make it a source of a pandemic. Not once did I hear the word "influenza" being used to describe last years pulmonary disease which was due to vaping vitamin E acetate, which is also not contagious.
And if covid-19 begin in the US, then why did the outbreak start in China? The lab was temporally closed in Aug 2019. China's outbreak began in Dec. That's 4 months of nothing. Just these past 3 months have displayed a spread of extraordinary values.
So you have the knowledge to deconstruct a covid-19 virus and confirm that it did not originate in China? What about SARS? Did that start in the US as well? Agree the covid-19 could be a mutation. Disagree that China does not have the environment for such mutation to happen.
If the disadvantage of living in North America is hearing about American propaganda, then why are you playing into it? The reports of covid-19 is not strictly from the US. It is world wide which does not play into America's propaganda.
I have no doubts there are cases of influenza being diagnosed as covid-19. Does that mean Italy or the rest of the world is not in threat of covid-19? Does that mean all 83k+ cases in the US is influenza? I do not understand this comment.
Disclaimer I have not checked this for factual.
2007
Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus as an Agent of Emerging and Reemerging Infection
"Coronaviruses are well known to undergo genetic recombination (375), which may lead to new genotypes and outbreaks. The presence of a large reservoir of SARS-CoV-like viruses in horseshoe bats, together with the culture of eating exotic mammals in southern China, is a time bomb. The possibility of the reemergence of SARS and other novel viruses from animals or laboratories and therefore the need for preparedness should not be ignored."
https://cmr.asm.org/content/cmr/20/4/660.full.pdf
2007
Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus as an Agent of Emerging and Reemerging Infection
"Coronaviruses are well known to undergo genetic recombination (375), which may lead to new genotypes and outbreaks. The presence of a large reservoir of SARS-CoV-like viruses in horseshoe bats, together with the culture of eating exotic mammals in southern China, is a time bomb. The possibility of the reemergence of SARS and other novel viruses from animals or laboratories and therefore the need for preparedness should not be ignored."
https://cmr.asm.org/content/cmr/20/4/660.full.pdf
maybe i'm just immune to conspiracy theories no matter on which side they spring up
That' OK tibs, you'll just behind the curve. They once laughed at Galileo too.
looks like mike's luck still held by being furloughed. that classification ensures he can pay his premiums without being pushed into cobra. i so hope this disaster will open everybody's eyes how precarious our system really is 
Millions of Americans are about to lose their health insurance in a pandemic | Wendell Potter
Millions of Americans are about to lose their health insurance in a pandemic | Wendell Potter
First, forgive my spelling mistakes I miss, I want so much to get what's in my heart across but I've been having a couple bad days again, not feeling well , can't think as clearly, lack of a lot of sleep and in the middle of the second round of steroids, my vision gets blury and I can't see the text that well. I'll do my best.
Guys and gals, pretty sure you wouldn't be on this topic, the last two pages if I wasn't here.
When I asked someone to start a carry over thread here after Mikes ERM+ Co-op to keep the fun going KTM stepped up, KTM's first post here
This was never what I had planned for, I loved building mods and sharing tips and posting photos showing what worked for me. And I enjoyed talking about all kinds of things, but these last two pages, nope. It's ok, time marches on, people move to different topics, it ain't "my" thread, never was, it belongs to all of you, I just liked hanging my hat here.
I changed, (who hasn't) since this thread was born, almost three years ago I started seeing a lot of folks being brave enough to come together, step forward and openly speak about the lies and agenda's many have seen being brought on us to suppress us, not just here in the USA but all over the world. We/I have seen it for decades, I knew in my heart this wasn't right, these things were NOT normal. "We" were/are called nuts, conspiracy theorists, (oh pins and needles lol, like that's something new to me/us, meh.) but we have researched and time and time again found solid evidence no one would talk about publicly, and you would NEVER see it on MSM (main stream news) and there is a reason for that, MSM is own by a handful of people, and they do have an agenda, control how you think and feel, ask yourslef, is that news reporting? Is that normal???
What am I talking about, these Freedom Truth seeking groups of people? Well they come from all over the world, from almost every country, brothers and sisters in Austria, the yellow vests in France, SK & NK, Iran, Canada, Switzerland, those who brought Brexit to the UK, ect. I go to boards where all those people (who can) come and gather, they dig truths post them, we as one huge group verify, disern and either stamp them Truth or we dismiss and move on 24/7. The result, huge amounts of data, Truths being epxoed to the world opening eyes at a rapid pace, yes people are taking notice and joining us, they have been for a long time. I bet there are a few here who by now know where I'm going, time to speak up, fear no more my friends.
This is getting long and I need a break so I'll finish in my last post. Stay safe, be well, Pray & keep love for each ther in your heart. Together we are strong. Better days ARE coming.
P.S. Last week we put one Xmas candle and a big star in the center upstarts window, I just am not able to string lights outside but folks took notice and now all our neighbors up and now the street have lots of lights out, consider it.
Guys and gals, pretty sure you wouldn't be on this topic, the last two pages if I wasn't here.
When I asked someone to start a carry over thread here after Mikes ERM+ Co-op to keep the fun going KTM stepped up, KTM's first post here
This was never what I had planned for, I loved building mods and sharing tips and posting photos showing what worked for me. And I enjoyed talking about all kinds of things, but these last two pages, nope. It's ok, time marches on, people move to different topics, it ain't "my" thread, never was, it belongs to all of you, I just liked hanging my hat here.
I changed, (who hasn't) since this thread was born, almost three years ago I started seeing a lot of folks being brave enough to come together, step forward and openly speak about the lies and agenda's many have seen being brought on us to suppress us, not just here in the USA but all over the world. We/I have seen it for decades, I knew in my heart this wasn't right, these things were NOT normal. "We" were/are called nuts, conspiracy theorists, (oh pins and needles lol, like that's something new to me/us, meh.) but we have researched and time and time again found solid evidence no one would talk about publicly, and you would NEVER see it on MSM (main stream news) and there is a reason for that, MSM is own by a handful of people, and they do have an agenda, control how you think and feel, ask yourslef, is that news reporting? Is that normal???
What am I talking about, these Freedom Truth seeking groups of people? Well they come from all over the world, from almost every country, brothers and sisters in Austria, the yellow vests in France, SK & NK, Iran, Canada, Switzerland, those who brought Brexit to the UK, ect. I go to boards where all those people (who can) come and gather, they dig truths post them, we as one huge group verify, disern and either stamp them Truth or we dismiss and move on 24/7. The result, huge amounts of data, Truths being epxoed to the world opening eyes at a rapid pace, yes people are taking notice and joining us, they have been for a long time. I bet there are a few here who by now know where I'm going, time to speak up, fear no more my friends.
This is getting long and I need a break so I'll finish in my last post. Stay safe, be well, Pray & keep love for each ther in your heart. Together we are strong. Better days ARE coming.
P.S. Last week we put one Xmas candle and a big star in the center upstarts window, I just am not able to string lights outside but folks took notice and now all our neighbors up and now the street have lots of lights out, consider it.
OK, got some much needed sleep today, back and legs no different but I'm feeling much better, vision is clear agian and mind is clear. They tell me I have this, What Causes Ocular Migraines partly caused by the pinched nerves in my neck andaggravated by lack of sleep, it is what it is. Anyways, what I come to share won't be for everyone, the choice to accept or deny is yours. I can't put into words any better then these videos so I'll leave them here and let you decide if you want to watch it or not.
In my sig line you'll see WWG1WGA = Where We Go 1 We Go All
What's coming soon will shock many, many will question the events and not know what to make of it all, I'll tell you this, a bright and wonderful future is coming and it's coming soon, do not fear it, embrace it, The Best Is Yet To Come! There are many of us who will be happy to answer questions and help guide you along best we can, we've been following the plan for a longgg time.
Anyone wanting to know more PM me with a NEW Private message, we can chat through email and keep it off the thread here. If you just want to say Hi PM me, I'll get the notice for that but I'm removing notices for this thread so posts here I won't know about. Love you all, I'll keep you in my Prayers, stay safe and stay united.
tibs, this won't be for you so you can just skip over it. Call me a nut, try to get everyone to think I'm a fruitcake, I don't care, I have never cared what others think of me. I need NO ONES approval to gauge my self worth. I walk my own road and I'm not afraid to walk it alone, in fact I take comfort in it, I am my own person. I only need answer to the man in the mirror and God. My Father told me long ago "You can't control what others do, you can only control yourself. Do what you know in your heart is right and don't worry what they think or do, any wrongs they do is on them, not you."
In my sig line you'll see WWG1WGA = Where We Go 1 We Go All
What's coming soon will shock many, many will question the events and not know what to make of it all, I'll tell you this, a bright and wonderful future is coming and it's coming soon, do not fear it, embrace it, The Best Is Yet To Come! There are many of us who will be happy to answer questions and help guide you along best we can, we've been following the plan for a longgg time.
Anyone wanting to know more PM me with a NEW Private message, we can chat through email and keep it off the thread here. If you just want to say Hi PM me, I'll get the notice for that but I'm removing notices for this thread so posts here I won't know about. Love you all, I'll keep you in my Prayers, stay safe and stay united.
tibs, this won't be for you so you can just skip over it. Call me a nut, try to get everyone to think I'm a fruitcake, I don't care, I have never cared what others think of me. I need NO ONES approval to gauge my self worth. I walk my own road and I'm not afraid to walk it alone, in fact I take comfort in it, I am my own person. I only need answer to the man in the mirror and God. My Father told me long ago "You can't control what others do, you can only control yourself. Do what you know in your heart is right and don't worry what they think or do, any wrongs they do is on them, not you."
7 years today since last cig after 34 years smoking.
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