Experienced Vapers, come hither....

[Chesh97]

I started out with an Ego Style VV stick with an aerotank. I then bought a VTR & 18650 batteries. Been using the VTR until a couple weeks ago until a friend bought me an istick w/ nautilis mini tank. Is there any sticky or informational threads where I can learn about rebuild-able mods/ atomizers and such? Id like to learn about building my own coils/wicks... Still really confused about regulated vs non regulated devices, batteries etc.

Thanks

 

[Warpigs]

Welcome to ECF. regulated mods are not able to change thier volts. Non-regulated you can adjust the volts. I believe.

 

[Robino1]

We have a lot of forums.

Rebuildable Atomizer Systems

APV Discussion

Vaping Hardware

Not sure what your post count needs to be for that area. Shouldn't take long to find out

If you don't have quite enough, just hang out here and talk.

 

[The Ocelot]

Hi

Regulated devices have chips that keep the power (voltage) at a specific level until the battery can no longer produce it. Depending on the device, the voltage might be what it is set to produce (fixed voltage) or what you set it at (variable voltage/wattage).

The power of unregulated devices is dependent on the battery charge. A fresh battery is ≈ 4.2v. When put into an unregulated device that is the voltage it will produce, but as the battery discharges the voltage will go down.

For info on RBAs, this section is your best bet: Rebuildable Atomizer Systems

 

[The Ocelot]

We have a lot of forums.

Rebuildable Atomizer Systems

APV Discussion

Vaping Hardware

Not sure what your post count needs to be for that area. Shouldn't take long to find out

If you don't have quite enough, just hang out here and talk.

u haz beated me agains.

 

[The Ocelot]

Welcome to ECF. regulated mods are not able to change thier volts. Non-regulated you can adjust the volts. I believe.

Sorry no. See my above post.

 

[Susan~S]

The Ocelot has it right.

With a mechanical mod the only way to "fine tune" your vape is to build a new coil (or change your stock coil). With a regulated vv/vw mod (and its buck/boost circuitry) you can "fine tune" with a push of a button. On a mechanical mod your voltage drops as you vape, with a regulated mod this does not happen. Your first hit is just as good as your last hit.

 

[The Ocelot]

The Ocelot has it right.

With a mechanical mod the only way to "fine tune" your vape is to build a new coil (or change your stock coil). With a regulated vv/vw mod (and its buck/boost circuitry) you can "fine tune" with a push of a button. On a mechanical mod your voltage drops as you vape, with a regulated mod this does not happen. Your first hit is just as good as your last hit.

Most of the time this is true, but you have to read the fine print these days. There are currently devices on the market that only have boost circuits, no buck (meaning that you can set them to go higher, but not lower). I don't understand the point of this, but they are out there.

 

[Warpigs]

I use Silver Bullets, they have nothing to adjust volts or anytihng with. I charge a battery and throw it in until it gets low. There is not any "meter" on the mod itself.

 

[Kevin littell]

There is several ways to go from here...


Drippers

Rebuild able tanks....


Variable volts, variable watts... Temperature control.


Really the only 2 Limiting factors are your WALLET and your Patience.


I hate fiddling with stuff. I went another route. I bought a purely mechanical mod and a rebuildable tank. (Nemesis is the mod and a Kayfun Lite V2 tank.)

I wind my own coils....takes 10 mins and only needed once a month.



I wick with cotton. 12 bucks a month for wick and coils.....I am also a cheap b@#@rd.


Rewick is 5 mins on an empty tank now that I have it "down." I just proved this week it can be done sitting in traffic on the way too work!


I went mechanical because I got tired of shelling out 70-100 bucks on a mod to have it go belly up 6 months later because of a non-repairable 22 penny Chinese micro switch. Did I mention I'm a cheap b@%tard?


There is a learning curve on the mechanical mods and another on the tanks......


Think of them as mole-hills.


Good luck with you search!

 

[philoshop]

Let us us not unduly confuse the gentleman who has beckoned us to come hither.
Regulated devices are generally easier to use in that they don't require a whole lot of knowledge about batteries other than how to safely charge them, store them, and transport them. In most cases they simply won't work if you somehow try to do something that's wrong.
Unregulated devices on the other hand have no such built-in safeguards and require a fair amount of knowledge of all the components in the system.

The holiday cheer is catching up with me, so I'll turn you over to Baditude to provide further information:
E-Cigarette Forum - Baditude - Blogs

And welcome to the site, my friend! Yow, that last batch of 'cheer' was a good one.

 

[wshanncap]

Welcome to the forum. After you get thru the good links already listed and are ready to consider rebuilding then these two links should be of some help.
Ohms Law Calculator, and the Steam Engine. It has a tab to calculate wraps and another good tab shows if you are pushing your battery too hard.

 

[KY_Rob]

I prefer a regulated vape. Kevin is correct about them going belly up, but that's happened to me when I buy a crappy device.

Best bang for the buck is the time tested Provari from ProVape. They're not inexpensive. However, they're rugged, reliable, and backed up with a great warranty and customer service program. They're not the most powerful device, but they are safe and will satisfy a majority of folks who just want to stay off stinkies.

If you're looking for more power, I highly recommend the VaporShark rDNA. They're also reliable, fairly rugged, and have good customer support. Again, not inexpensive, but great value.

With either of the devices I mentioned, they're going to easily last several years. At the end of the day, the $250ish you're going to spend for a good device is a cheap investment in yourself.

Hope this helps!

 

[abpigdoc]

A wealth of knowledge here. Pick the topic and there's a thread already started--VV/VW devices and RBA's, and although everyone has an opinion about their new discovery, it IS a good place to do your comparative shopping. Tips can also be found on youtube on a multitude of subjects. Now the bad news: the merchandise continues to upgrade, and you're goning to spend money in the quest for the sweetest vape! Give in and enjoy!

 

[Marcus1970]

I love my mpv 2.0 what more do u want?

 

[philoshop]

KY_Rob, I have a Provari in one hand and a small glass of Pappy Van Winkle in the other. Life is good tonight.

 

[Bunnykiller]

you can adjust the volts on a mech.... just keep using it and you adjust the volts lower each time you press the button

 

[The Ocelot]

If you're looking for more power, I highly recommend the VaporShark rDNA. They're also reliable, fairly rugged, and have good customer support. Again, not inexpensive, but great value.

Isn't the VaporShark one of those that has boost, but no buck? Someone told me the Istick was one as well, but I'm just passing along what I was told. I have no personal experience with either.

 

[Corbs126]

I personally prefer regulated and I have a box mod and a mech tube. DNA30 box just hits so well from first to last where the mech is all over the place IMO

 

[sketchness]

SO seems to me what you really want to research are RTA's or a rebuidable tank atomizer. You have to build at 1ohm or higher on the iStick for it to work. So you will want to pick something where others are getting good results at 1 ohm or higher.

The steam link in my signature will take you to a site where you can figure out how many wraps you need with a specific gauge wire to achieve higher than 1 ohm. 28 and 30 gauge kanthal will be your friend as they heat up faster. You may even need 32? Others with the iStick have surely posted about their results. The site has lots of useful information about battery drain as well should you foray into mechs.

And everyone has beaten up regulated versus unregulated pretty good. A pure mechanical device is regulated by three basic things. First and foremost the resistance (ohms) of the coil. The charge on the battery 4.2 hot off the charger and depletes with each vape, steam can show roughly what is happening as the battery discharges. The third is the voltage drop of the device itself. Every mechanical mod has some amount of voltage drop. That is why some mods are so expensive, design has been planned out to limit this from occurring. People describe it as a hard hitting mod. Some are expensive for no good reason lol.