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Singularity

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I have specifically only bought juice from local/US makers. Will never buy juice from another country and ultimately I would like to make my own....
How confident are you that the "juice from local/US makers" are indeed local or US made? You do know that a lot of vendors bought their juices from China and brand them as their own. And some vendors buy the ingredients from China to simply mix and bottle them in the US. Does this make them local/US made juices? Just saying that if you are so insistent that you will "never buy juice from another country", you need to do more homework than simply buying from a US vendors.

BTW, what's so wrong with juices made in other countries that made you reject them so. If you have any study or research, please do share.
 

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I understand our fellow US ecf members and their stance on foreign products, i'm glad that you have options that others like me do not. But please, educate yourselves a little bit before thinking that FT works like most chinese sites. (It's no amazon, but hey, they are pretty good)

Most of us have been burned with chinese products or websites in the past, at least i know i have. When i started to research ecigs to stop smoking 3 years ago i bought a cig-a-like from other chinese web, it was awful and i disregarded vaping as a whole thinking if that's the "best" i can have i'd rather keep smoking.

That said, FT has proved time and time again, that when they put the real brand on the product description they are not misleading anyone. I tried liqua juice, batteries, clearos and currently waiting on my MVP, which has been confirmed by many people on this and other forums to be the real deal.

Yes, they have a whole lot of shady products on their site too, lots of knock off clearos that reek bad quality on the pics(i don't want to imagine how some of those look in person) but they also offer a great selection of genuine items or really good knockoffs.

The whole ordeal about FT, Innoking, VJoe, etc has been talked through the weekend in other topics, and while i understand the stance against chinese products or vendors i really can't understand why write off FT without the benefit of the doubt. We all know that if they decide to change their policy and start selling knockoffs like they were the real products their sales wouldn't be the same and people like me wouldn't be defending them.

Sorry for the wall of text,
tldr, me and many others had outstanding experiences with fasttech, learn to discern between the product and the vendor :)
 

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See?!? Now I swore I bought the same one as you, but obviously it's different!

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Roflmao!!! Good night people!! hehe!! oh gosh!! I checked a recipe and hit the back button and what do I see??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2LTL8KgKv8

How confident are you that the "juice from local/US makers" are indeed local or US made? You do know that a lot of vendors bought their juices from China and brand them as their own. And some vendors buy the ingredients from China to simply mix and bottle them in the US. Does this make them local/US made juices? Just saying that if you are so insistent that you will "never buy juice from another country", you need to do more homework than simply buying from a US vendors.

BTW, what's so wrong with juices made in other countries that made you reject them so. If you have any study or research, please do share.

send me your addy and when I get enough funds will definately share, unless you want to pay c.o.d **grins..

nothing wrong at all with other countries.. blame my taste buds.. this is shunk ^(*&(*%& :laugh:

its also the number 1 reason.. I will make my own juices from now on.. or didn't you catch that tidbit??
 

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What I find interesting is that Innokin never actually explicitly states that the Fast Tech MVPs are KOs......

Because they're probably not knockoffs, just units bought by a front company so FT could sell them below Innokin MSRP. Innokin denounces any vendor selling below their mandated low price point and refuses to sell to them in additon. A practice that is a violation of the FTA in the US.

Doubt seriously anything will ever come of it because Innokin would have to PROVE the items sold under their name were fakes. From what I've seen, FT doesn't use trade names on copycats.
 

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I understand our fellow US ecf members and their stance on foreign products, i'm glad that you have options that others like me do not. But please, educate yourselves a little bit before thinking that FT works like most chinese sites. (It's no amazon, but hey, they are pretty good)

Most of us have been burned with chinese products or websites in the past, at least i know i have. When i started to research ecigs to stop smoking 3 years ago i bought a cig-a-like from other chinese web, it was awful and i disregarded vaping as a whole thinking if that's the "best" i can have i'd rather keep smoking.

That said, FT has proved time and time again, that when they put the real brand on the product description they are not misleading anyone. I tried liqua juice, batteries, clearos and currently waiting on my MVP, which has been confirmed by many people on this and other forums to be the real deal.

Yes, they have a whole lot of shady products on their site too, lots of knock off clearos that reek bad quality on the pics(i don't want to imagine how some of those look in person) but they also offer a great selection of genuine items or really good knockoffs.

The whole ordeal about FT, Innoking, VJoe, etc has been talked through the weekend in other topics, and while i understand the stance against chinese products or vendors i really can't understand why write off FT without the benefit of the doubt. We all know that if they decide to change their policy and start selling knockoffs like they were the real products their sales wouldn't be the same and people like me wouldn't be defending them.

Sorry for the wall of text,
tldr, me and many others had outstanding experiences with fasttech, learn to discern between the product and the vendor :)

Great post. It's just that a lot of people in the US are in denial on where they get their crap from. They fail to understand that while they trash a whole nation like China and the quality of their products, that they consume mass quantities of components and products from there. It is a shame though that through their need to get material goods at rock bottom prices, they are putting many less fortunate union protected and overpaid workers their manufacturing jobs. But at least the unionized longshoremen at the Port of LA are making a grip of money offloading containers full of China made goods that people on here who swear off Chinese products are going to purchase at their local mall/walmart/target.
 

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Btw, Sm0kyBlue, you started with the worst eliquid "brand" from FT's selection :p

I have the same problem as you, i can't taste most juices, my last order from MBV had 2 or 3 flavor shots on every juice and now i'm starting to feel something :p but the liqua from FT is really good for the price. After the 19th(already over vape budget :p) i'll gladly sent you a couple of 10mL bottles of liqua for you to try if you like them i expect your diy juice coming my way afterwards :p
 

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Bottom line is if someone is trying to sell me a burger for 5 bucks and someone else offers me the same burger for 2 bucks I'm going with option B.

I have no shame.

I agree, if the 2 burgers taste the same.. I don't care if the guy flipping it has medical insurance, 401k or a fair wage.
 

Sm0kyBlue

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I hear ya on mbv.. except I could taste those, and the vape was good, once I knew what dripping was.. :p
Honestly, with what I got, dekong and some no name bit.. makes me leery of more juice.. even tho I heard after the fact, that the liqua is good.. go figure!! :p

Drop me a friend request.. learning on the diy, so wait till I get better at it before we trade!! :) Shouldn't take me long..

but I do know so well on budgeting.. and I am a bit hurting too.. My stuff will be here soon, and I have enough juice to tide me over.. I hope!!
but I did learn.. and don't take me wrong.. I like fasttech, there were other goodies in my order I do like.. just not the juice!! :)
 

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I purchased an ego T from them, and later, I looked on Joyetech's website, and found out that the website is listed as a copycat. Is this the same issue as the other? Are they real ego's or fake?
"EGO" hasn't been considered a brand for a while - it MIGHT be a protected brand name were the manufacturers in the US and held more strictly to trademark laws, but there are LOT'S of different companies making batteries called Ego. If they specified that it was a Joyetech Ego and it wasn't - that would be a problem.

Actually, I think that's something FastTech does - my impression is that they seem to sell a mix of NAME-BRAND product, with pretty good quality NOT-NAME-BRAND product mixed in. And I haven't checked into the Inokin issue - but on a couple other products where I've checked, they have NOT MISREPRESENTED what they're selling.

When it said "Kanger EVOD" - it's a Kanger EVOD. And until proven guilty I plan to presume that if it was NOT a Kanger, that FastTech might still list an EVOD but wouldn't say "Kanger".
 
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