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Fury83

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Hiya Fury - and its fine for them to do that eh, the boards are for sale. So its not like they ripped anything off. Anyone can pick up a bunch of those boards. I think some of them were even being sold Stateside? - just the boards I mean.
innokin have been one of the more original companies from what I've seen.

BTW - some pages back on the thread you mentioned something about fasttech not using the Innokin label on their site. Actually they did have products listed as Innokin products - first the SVD and then they went and updated all the MVP pages with Innokin. And then they removed Innokin from all the pages.
I really don't know what's going on - it seems to be down to "you believe what you wanna believe" (Tom Petty).

When I asked fasttech they told me the SVD were Innokin. That was before they took "Innokin" off the product page.

It's perfectly fine to do that, I don't mean they are doing anything wrong. You could get the boards a few places stateside for around $20 retail, less if in bulk. I don't think the SVD is a bad product either, I have one though I paid nothing near retail for it. It's just not a $100 product is what I am saying. In the end if the look of it is nicer to you than a vamo, if you like the "pants", then the price difference (us retail or fasttech) may be worth it. I also wanted to point out that since the board was a pretty standard affair, a knockoff that looks like it would basically be the same thing.

I don't have an issue with fasttech, they are actually more honest than some US vendors who pump their products up to be more than they are and then deny any issues are the product. I buy expensive things made in the US/Europe/Korea and cheap things from china at places like fasttech. They all have a use and value to me, I just found it funny we are talking about clones of something that has a very common core to it.

I didn't mean the actual innokin product listings, they have had iWands (itaste clones) up for quite a while. The branding on the actual product is different for those but obviously we know what it is/mimics. The point was that they don't seem to try to pass of clones as real, so if it says Innokin in the description, it is likely Innokin.
 

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lemme know how that goes, will ya?? hehehe!!!! :p

As long as it comes from fasttech.. oh and speaking of that, they havent responded to my ticket yet.. but they sent me a nice email asking me how I like them!! hmm.. I am way confuzzled.. I really do not know what to say..

"Your batteries rock my ego.. but yet the juice you sent upsets my nose and tummy" How would I say that in HongKong so they will understand?? :facepalm::vapor:

I would suggest that you just be kind and say that you would rather vape the sewer gas coming from a septic tank before you would vape that nasty stuff they sent you. They will probably get the gist of your opinion.
 

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I just recieved my first order from Fasttech.
2 ego knockoffs - charging now

assorted needle bottles for my DIY - plastic is a bit thin but they will work

a 7 pack of CE6 clearos + extra heads - haven't tried yet

a 5 pack of DCT tank - using one now and it MIGHT be poly pro so safe with tank crackers (further testing needed) but it IS much more solid than my Boge F17

Vivi Nova -assuming it is a knockoff since it does not say vision anywhere but I really didn't expect it to

even if the tanks are the only good thing the grand total cost me LESS than just buying 5 DCTs from an american shop + shipping would have been. I can live with 10 days to my door delivery.

I see no problem at all with knockoffs as long as you know that is what you are ordering. I have no complaints.
 

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Hey Myrany.. post up on your dct tanks k??

lemme know if you like it.. :)

I just recieved my first order from Fasttech.
2 ego knockoffs - charging now

assorted needle bottles for my DIY - plastic is a bit thin but they will work

a 7 pack of CE6 clearos + extra heads - haven't tried yet

a 5 pack of DCT tank - using one now and it MIGHT be poly pro so safe with tank crackers (further testing needed) but it IS much more solid than my Boge F17

Vivi Nova -assuming it is a knockoff since it does not say vision anywhere but I really didn't expect it to

even if the tanks are the only good thing the grand total cost me LESS than just buying 5 DCTs from an american shop + shipping would have been. I can live with 10 days to my door delivery.

I see no problem at all with knockoffs as long as you know that is what you are ordering. I have no complaints.

Nopes nuthing wrong, unless they don't work.. is that tanks or is that cartos?
 

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Hey Myrany.. post up on your dct tanks k??

lemme know if you like it.. :)



Nopes nuthing wrong, unless they don't work.. is that tanks or is that cartos?

It is a Carto Tank. In other words you stick a carto inside the tank filled with juice. I did swap out the dual coil carto it came with for a single coil ( my vamo has something else on it and that is my only device that can dial voltage up enough to use a Dual Coil).

I got Mt Dew juice in one of them right now. Want to give it a day or 2 to see if it fogs, melts or cracks. Mt Dew is famous for cracking tanks.
 

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Wondering if what I just wondering What I ordered called "Quit Smoking" Listed under Ego EE2 catagory if it really is an eGo EE2 or an Apollo/Esco E2. I can't find the product on the Ego website. Are Esco E2's rebranded or are they a knock off?

Are you making a funny hunny bunny? Sarcasm is often lost on me if I haven't had enough coffee. In any case, for the viewers at home, there is no "eGo" website, unless you mean Alibaba. Just go to one of their thousands of e-cig pages, close your eyes and randomly touch the screen. There is a very good chance your finger will land on an eGo, possibly a pink Health Set for ladies that taste like real cigarette and comes with a clearo, they call an atomizer. The Chinese seem to like the word atomizer and use it for almost everything except flashlights.

I'm unfamiliar with the Apollo/Esco E2, so there may be a website for it, but I know there isn't a specified manufacturer for the EE2, since I was looking at them last night. It's like the Vamo. There are almost as many companies making Vamos as there are making eGos (note: it's sometimes called a "Bamboo;" same mod). The problem with Vamos is that there doesn't appear to be a manufacturer claiming they made it first. Perhaps it sprung fully formed onto the pages of Alibaba like proof of market-driven Intelligent Design. Is it a clone? A knock-off? A fake? Hard to tell without an original to compare it to. Lots of people love Vamos, but at this point all they can really be sure of is the mod has a face that looks like a robot and variable wattage. Maybe. What if it really only has variable voltage and the numbers displayed on the LED screen have no meaning except to correspond to the voltage displayed on a different screen, divided by the resistance of the device screwed on top which might be wrong? Ha, ha! People so funny! But I digress...I doubt the Chinese have time for such attempts at humor, they are too busy accusing each other of knocking off the knock-offs another company knocked off first - and coming up with serious marketing campaigns they're puzzled we don't react to. Ladies like buy sexy thing make man like her, man buy lady sexy thing make lady happying:

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Again I digress...

There is more vape gear being made in the US everyday, but most of our stuff still comes from China - supposedly. Parts could be outsourced to Thailand and we'd never know. I don't have a problem buying generic products, except for batteries. I've gotten picky lately about things that could start fires, but if eGos covered in glittering disco balls rock your world, go for it! Shooting sparks might add to the Bling. My reason for going with name brands is that there are identifiable companies involved. While they may (likely) outsource the manufacturing to the same companies making the generics, if my trademarked eGo started smoking I could blame Joyetech. Once I proved to the forum it was an authentic Joyetech that is, since if it wasn't I deserved my drapes catching fire for not buying the real thing. Proof might be hard to come by if it melted Arpishly into a table lamp, but authentic or not, I'm certain to be reminded I should have bought a ProVari. Word travels fast in the vaping world and while I seriously doubt I would be compensated, Joyetech would lose face. The Chinese do that, right? Or is it just the Japanese? I apologize if I'm being culturally insensitive. Anyway, they have an incentive to produce products with some quality, since if word spread that real Joyetech eGos start fires they might lose customer confidence and FastTech would do an even more phenomenal amount of business.

Really kids, if a Vivi Nova works, it works; if it doesn't, it doesn't. Having Vision on the box, with or without the correct logo, is no guarantee it's superior to the ones sold by FastTech or even that it's made by Vision. Generics are sometimes better too. I had some brilliant knock-off Stardusts (which were real knock-offs since "Stardust" is the gotvapes brand name for a generic CE4), but the vendor got so much flack for selling "fake" clearos he now only carries Vision. Bummer. I really liked them, but how do you find a particular knock-off hidden amongst the generics and fakes?

It's nice we'll soon see mass-produced glass items on the market, something a lot of us have been waiting for, but I wish these companies would take just a little of the money they aren't spending on design and hire a native English speaker to write their product descriptions. Like me! I could write their whole catalog in an afternoon! I would even randomly call clearomizers atomizers and cartomizers if it made them happying. However, I draw the line at removing "tar" from the e-liquid descriptions. It's just too much fun watching new vapers freak out and they'll owe us some humor for losing the laughs from the product listings.

I don't want to leave out the DIY juice artisans, so have you considered where your flavorings come from? The Perfumer's Apprentice/Flavorer's Apprentice, for example, buy products wholesale from corporate giants, like Givaudan, Firmenich, and International Flavors & Fragrance. While technically headquartered in Europe, the companies have subsidiaries all over the world. It takes very little poking around to discover their chemists are whipping up yummy stuff in facilities located in places like, Karawang International Industrial City, near Jakarta, Indonesia; Nantong, China; and The Putuo district of Shanghai. Sadly, IFF plans to close it's production facility in Augusta, GA, in 2014. I didn't get around to trying to figure out where the esters, enzymes and other little beasties come from that go into making things like synthetic massoia lactone (coconut), but I doubt "Flavorist" chemists get magic wands for graduation gifts - oh wait! "Flavorists" may have had little or no formal education up to PhDs in Biochemistry and Chemistry; it's basically on the job training. I just thought I'd share.

Why do we call things fake? Generic? Knock-off? Whatever? Simulacrum is way cooler.
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Noooo, customs seized my MVP...i have to go to their offices and prove that the MVP costs less than $50(long story short, law here states that imported goods for personal use can't be more than $50 with shipping included) So i'll have to go tomorrow with the paypal and FT invoice to their office...bleh...this could take days until they decide they'll let me take it home. (public services employees are a very particular type of people around here :()
 

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i tend to hate clones but in the case of e-cigs, i think it's all the same, with the exception of ..... ahem, provari!
for anything like vamos and egos, well, if you want to save some money, just go for the clones.

i guess my biggest gripe would be when shops sells clones at the same price (or HIGHER) than the originals.
 
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Noooo, customs seized my MVP...i have to go to their offices and prove that the MVP costs less than $50(long story short, law here states that imported goods for personal use can't be more than $50 with shipping included) So i'll have to go tomorrow with the paypal and FT invoice to their office...bleh...this could take days until they decide they'll let me take it home. (public services employees are a very particular type of people around here :()

Now that blows....
 
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