Cheers guys, will give the toonz a whizz
I see plenty listed (not yet in stock/available) on French sites. They're located in Shenzhen, but I wonder if they're French owned.Let's see if I done this right Clearomiseur GS AIR M Eleaf ( GS19-M )
I've seen odd ones with reviews that state they taste like a cigarette - even if they do, I'm not sure I'd want anything that tastes or smells like that - don't want my brain getting any 'recognition' spikes!I think you're spot on, as ex smokers I reckon what we're missing is the taste of the smoke, not the leaf, and up to present I dont know of anyone making that flavour. Personally I treat vaping partly as a hobby and as such I've started to mix some of my own juices but I have 7 juices that I will pick up and put down during the day

They've been quite busy - I just had a reply to an email sent on 11th last night. I don't think they'd decline to answer a question as to whether they made it or not.I e-mailed them but they haven't replied and they're usually prompt so I guess they don't want to tell me. Maybe they are pretty simple mixes of other brands, but nothing spectacular enough to make it to the 'proper' juice line, hence the low price? Dunno, might try 1 or 2 and see what they're like.
Nice! Hopefully, you'll be pleasantly surprisedTo keep my brain alive (small chance) and in case I'm wrong about the folly of searching for the holy grail of vape juice I've ordered a few Chef's Choice concentrates to have a play with.![]()
Did you try the Manifesto yet George?Don't forget POTV15 aswell Vinnie.
Nice! Hopefully, you'll be pleasantly surprised
Which ones did you get?
Treacle Ginger Pudding, English Trifle, Fruit Salad Chewy, Black Jack and Devon Cream.![]()
I think it`s great that when you DIY you have a massive selection of liquids to try, at a fraction of the cost of ready made.

Did you try the Manifesto yet George?
I see plenty listed (not yet in stock/available) on French sites. They're located in Shenzhen, but I wonder if they're French owned.
I've seen odd ones with reviews that state they taste like a cigarette - even if they do, I'm not sure I'd want anything that tastes or smells like that - don't want my brain getting any 'recognition' spikes!
It's possible that some of these taste close (cigarettes/cigars/pipes) :Cigarette-style e-Liquids
They've been quite busy - I just had a reply to an email sent on 11th last night. I don't think they'd decline to answer a question as to whether they made it or not.
It's possible they could have been prototypes that didn't do exactly what was wanted, yet are too good not to produce.
Treacle Ginger Pudding, English Trifle, Fruit Salad Chewy, Black Jack and Devon Cream.![]()
Chefs replied saying they're just "concentrates we find to be very good for mixing".
Whatever that means.
May come in handy !Looks very useful, Terry. Ta!![]()
I have to ask though, when using the e juice me up calculator, some of the measurements could be tricky, like 1.67 ml for example ! Do you folks find it easier to measure using drops, instead of ml`s ?Yeah, i`ll probably use that as my main mixing guide pipe, looks very easy to use ( Which i need )I have to ask though, when using the e juice me up calculator, some of the measurements could be tricky, like 1.67 ml for example ! Do you folks find it easier to measure using drops, instead of ml`s ?
So far I've only mixed single concentrate mixes, but you can buy 1ml syringes, so I'd read that as 1 full + 2/3 of a 1ml syringeful
I find the hardest bit is finding your own personal flavour level, for instance on Adams' suggestion I cut one guys recommended level down by 50% and turned a juice that was crap into a juice that is meh

Yeah, i`ll probably use that as my main mixing guide pipe, looks very easy to use ( Which i need )I have to ask though, when using the e juice me up calculator, some of the measurements could be tricky, like 1.67 ml for example ! Do you folks find it easier to measure using drops, instead of ml`s ?
Personally pipe, i couldn`t be doing with just one or two flavours throughout the day ! When i get my fourth subtank - hopefully Tomorrow, i will have nine different flavours on the go
If you think that`s a lot, you should have a chat with Bob or Ian !I think DIY- ing is a really inexpensive way of trying a lot of the different juices out there, If that is your bag.
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Same here Tel.i get tired of flavours quite quickly and change maybe 4/5 times a day.I've got 6 tanks i pick and choose from as the mood takes me.
I've seen odd ones with reviews that state they taste like a cigarette - even if they do, I'm not sure I'd want anything that tastes or smells like that - don't want my brain getting any 'recognition' spikes!
It's possible that some of these taste close (cigarettes/cigars/pipes) :Cigarette-style e-Liquids
Well you didnn`t take much convincing pipeI think it`s great that when you DIY you have a massive selection of liquids to try, at a fraction of the cost of ready made.
Vapemail for me today; My 4th subtank mini, and my mini fogger. Already got the fogger set up, and i find it much better than the mini Kayfun, in the way of better airflow, and juice capacity. Just wish i had cleaned it first though, machine oil![]()
EDIT: My subtank from FT only took 8 days from shipping VIA china post.![]()

I found THIS place last night, for all us DIYersMay come in handy !
Yeah, i`ll probably use that as my main mixing guide pipe, looks very easy to use ( Which i need )I have to ask though, when using the e juice me up calculator, some of the measurements could be tricky, like 1.67 ml for example ! Do you folks find it easier to measure using drops, instead of ml`s ?