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Gums were another area that PG caused problems with - my gums were sore, bleeding and swollen. As soon as I went to max VG, it went. I only get a little trouble if I use a higher PG content such as more than 30%, or certain custard type ingredients ...and I suspect they were the ones with diketones, which they're working hard to eliminate as much as possible.It might sound a bit extreme but you could do a patch test on your nose with a bit of high vg liquid, you'd have to vape a high pg liquid whilst you were testing to be sure. I sometimes get a bit of swelling on the bit of my gums where it goes between my teeth
I might do a patch test myself to see what else it causes swelling in, purely in the interests of science of course
Love it Vinnie 
Why am I not surprised ...still, some things are minor enough to ignore mostly. I still get a bit of breathing difficulty if I use a little too much PG or inhale too much. If you're mixing your own, you could work out which it is that causes the problem (PG or VG) and adjust your ratios accordingly. 5% either way can make a difference.
Sounds a bit like rushing to the garage when petrol duty is going up at midnight ...except the purchased items will outlast a tank of petrolGoing back to the china ban, i think over the next few months we will all know whats going to happen across the world ! But just imagine the bargains to be had when all the sales start, to get rid of their stock
I'm already stocking up on things. I want to get to zero if I can, but on my terms, not theirs.
Sounds a bit like rushing to the garage when petrol duty is going up at midnight ...except the purchased items will outlast a tank of petrol
Yep, i suppose it`s now a case of watch this space ! And as i mentioned i think we will know a lot more before the year is out. My finger is always at the ready to order a boat load of nic, if i need to, as for mods/tanks i should be fine, as most of us will be.
Going back to the china ban, i think over the next few months we will all know whats going to happen across the world ! But just imagine the bargains to be had when all the sales start, to get rid of their stock
Only if they get wind of it, knowing the Chinese Government, they will just close them down with no warning and melt everything down
Yep, i suppose it`s now a case of watch this space ! And as i mentioned i think we will know a lot more before the year is out. My finger is always at the ready to order a boat load of nic, if i need to, as for mods/tanks i should be fine, as most of us will be.
Terry you can supply China with your Sub tanks buddy
I can almost see them: military bursting into the factories and smashing machinery, ordering workers out, perhaps at gunpoint. Not a lot of human rights there I think.
It'll likely cause us all to cut down on consumption ...fear of running out of something always make me sparing with it no matter how much I have stocked up.Yep, i suppose it`s now a case of watch this space ! And as i mentioned i think we will know a lot more before the year is out. My finger is always at the ready to order a boat load of nic, if i need to, as for mods/tanks i should be fine, as most of us will be.
Then what will you do?What a fantastic idea Marcus
...hang on how about a mini factory for tanks ...anyone got the skills?
As long as that's not the one with my Juice on it
But it would be well steeped when it arrived.
Nooo! Not an official one ...an 'illicit' oneWhat ! just for the poxy government to close it down
A 'Veterans Co-operative'
Nooo! Not an official one ...an 'illicit' one
Ah, the old cloak and dagger eh
But it would be well steeped when it arrived.
Nah, I'm okay it dropped into Stanstead about 2 hours ago from Memphis, and has been released from customs so I might even get it tomorrow with my German order with a bit of luck, otherwise I'll have to wait until Tuesday to try the "Infamous" brands
Ah, the old cloak and dagger eh
Can we have a still on site as well - fancy some home made plum brandy or an English potcheen
Not got a still bob, but have everything else
We could always knock a still up though, using a pressure cooker But of course!Ah, the old cloak and dagger eh
Toes crossed Bob!
Nah, I'm okay it dropped into Stanstead about 2 hours ago from Memphis, and has been released from customs so I might even get it tomorrow with my German order with a bit of luck, otherwise I'll have to wait until Tuesday to try the "Infamous" brands
Don't see why not ..as long as the aromas won't attract stray cats
See, we got multi-skilled people!Not got a still bob, but have everything else
I'll bet someone with metal and associated machining experience would be able to fashion something usable!
....at that stage of things, it wouldn't need to be pretty! 
I tried the Diamond Mist juices tonight and in the sniff test they all seemed delicious but once they were in a clean recoiled H2 clearo it was a different story
The Midnight Mist - from the picture on the package this was meant to be a mixture of citrus and grape but it tasted like a nondescript sour concoction that reminded me of a fruit I once tasted from one of my cactus , not nice at all, not even Ian could save this one
The Vimmy - a claimed Vimto copy, first impression was of burning rubber with notes of onion, so bad I thought the insulator must be burning in the heater but on checking I found it wasn't, the juice just tasted really bad
Tutti Frutti - the only one of the 3 that may be vapable, I'll try this again tomorrow
After finding the Toonz so delicious what a disappointment, I'll probably try them all again in a dripper, but I dont hold much hope
The Midnight Mist - from the picture on the package this was meant to be a mixture of citrus and grape but it tasted like a nondescript sour concoction that reminded me of a fruit I once tasted from one of my cactus , not nice at all, not even Ian could save this one
The Vimmy - a claimed Vimto copy, first impression was of burning rubber with notes of onion, so bad I thought the insulator must be burning in the heater but on checking I found it wasn't, the juice just tasted really bad
Tutti Frutti - the only one of the 3 that may be vapable, I'll try this again tomorrow
After finding the Toonz so delicious what a disappointment, I'll probably try them all again in a dripper, but I dont hold much hope
I`ve lost count of how many crappy vapes i have had like that Vinnie. There was one company, and i can`t even remember the name of it now, who did similar named juices, and they tasted exactly how you describe your`s. " Like steptoes socks" i would imagine
Just remembered: Trip Hammer. Don`t know if they`re still going, but i would be surprised if they are !
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So funny! ...sorry Vince
You'd make a good critic of bad food
Yuk!!!I'm guessing you likely won't be placing another order!
I was just about to ask if it was Trip - Was it the Jelly Babies you liked? I know I tried one and liked it, tried a bunch more and found very little to like. Found them lurking in my 'unloved' box when clearing out a few weeks ago ...into the bin!I`ve lost count of how many crappy vapes i have had like that Vinnie. There was one company, and i can`t even remember the name of it now, who did similar named juices, and they tasted exactly how you describe your`s. " Like steptoes socks" i would imagine
Just remembered: Trip Hammer. Don`t know if they`re still going, but i would be surprised if they are !
funny how one will be excellent and the rest either so-so or terrible. The Artist Collection (the four I have) is a 50% OK result for me - Dragonscape terrific.
Para Mour really very good - I need to top it up with a pear/custard mix in VG though, but it doesn't spoil it really.
Samba Sun is mostly clementine's & cream and nice, but I wont buy it again (I add a VG vanilla to it).
Sacre Coeur is disappointing ...should be brilliant by the sound of it, but it's got a very mild flavour ....I can 'fix' it with something though
The fifth one is melon, and not something I like much.
I think the best makers will reign supreme in the coming months - I have a number of good ones from various brands, but for overall quality and exceptionally good flavours, Chefs & NT are reliable and consistent.
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