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I've been interested in the debates about clones and originals for a long time. Which is better made? Which works better?
In truth what we should be asking ourselves is who owns the rights to the engineering/design/spec.
Copyright law seems to be an unfamiliar concept in China, and yet we all turn a blind eye when it suits us.
Legally there's no contest - those who own the rights should not be cloned.
Morally - always a grey area. And it always will be until we stick up for rights.
This is why I get authentic stuff all the time these days. This doesn't make me a prince or saint, but it does mean that I would like r&d to be possible. That only works when people can put a margin on price to let development continue.
I still love a bargain, though!
In truth what we should be asking ourselves is who owns the rights to the engineering/design/spec.
Copyright law seems to be an unfamiliar concept in China, and yet we all turn a blind eye when it suits us.
Legally there's no contest - those who own the rights should not be cloned.
Morally - always a grey area. And it always will be until we stick up for rights.
This is why I get authentic stuff all the time these days. This doesn't make me a prince or saint, but it does mean that I would like r&d to be possible. That only works when people can put a margin on price to let development continue.
I still love a bargain, though!
Looking at the pic I would say the one on the left
EDIT: oh! I see it was really the one on the right, I wasn't actually looking at the wiring etc, I was looking at the battery doors and the one on the left looked more like the rDNA door
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I have found it better to put the wire in exactly how eleaf do it, through the holes otherwise you will have connection problems, nickel is very unforgiving in that respect.
I've been interested in the debates about clones and originals for a long time. Which is better made? Which works better?
In truth what we should be asking ourselves is who owns the rights to the engineering/design/spec.
Copyright law seems to be an unfamiliar concept in China, and yet we all turn a blind eye when it suits us.
Legally there's no contest - those who own the rights should not be cloned.
Morally - always a grey area. And it always will be until we stick up for rights.
This is why I get authentic stuff all the time these days. This doesn't make me a prince or saint, but it does mean that I would like r&d to be possible. That only works when people can put a margin on price to let development continue.
I still love a bargain, though!
I've bought a authentic iStick 30w from FT back in January/February and it's still working like a demon
Got a iStick 50w from a company in the UK and it lasted 3 months, before it started auto firing and changing to variable volts on its own.It ended up in a bucket of water,when it ended up firing with out a tank on it,
If you pay for a clone and it
up.You expect it,but not when you buy something you expect to be authentic and it's a clone.That me offSorry about the swearing and the spelling
Sent from a big cloud of Mrs Bees custard firing on a .3 coil at 4.2 volts
I also like to buy authentics when I can, still get the occasional clone though, but I refuse to pay over the odds for an original like the KF4I've been interested in the debates about clones and originals for a long time. Which is better made? Which works better?
In truth what we should be asking ourselves is who owns the rights to the engineering/design/spec.
Copyright law seems to be an unfamiliar concept in China, and yet we all turn a blind eye when it suits us.
Legally there's no contest - those who own the rights should not be cloned.
Morally - always a grey area. And it always will be until we stick up for rights.
This is why I get authentic stuff all the time these days. This doesn't make me a prince or saint, but it does mean that I would like r&d to be possible. That only works when people can put a margin on price to let development continue.
I still love a bargain, though!
I did wonder if many of the items were actually designed/manufactured within the same facility, and only branded according to the company that commissioned it. I assumed that the copies were basically the same item ..perhaps a few cheaper components, and branded differently.
From my own point of view, I despise the copying of artwork - hundreds of artists in the US & Canada were alerted to mass copying of their work in China a few years ago, and given the contact details of some department that should have been able to put a stop to their work being unlawfully copied.
With equipment such as we're talking about here, and household electricals, it's sometimes hard to recognise something that's a low grade copy, or just a similar item from a legitimate company.
Even buying according to brand name doesn't guarantee it's an original item built to spec standards.
Some items/professions seem to have more grey areas than others.
I've had two clone mods amongst the first that I got, and both were faulty. Never knowingly bought anotherThis is why I get authentic stuff all the time these days. This doesn't make me a prince or saint, but it does mean that I would like r&d to be possible. That only works when people can put a margin on price to let development continue.
I still love a bargain, though!
I've bought a authentic iStick 30w from FT back in January/February and it's still working like a demon
Got a iStick 50w from a company in the UK and it lasted 3 months, before it started auto firing and changing to variable volts on its own.It ended up in a bucket of water,when it ended up firing with out a tank on it,
If you pay for a clone and it
Sorry about the swearing and the spelling
Sent from a big cloud of Mrs Bees custard firing on a .3 coil at 4.2 volts
I buy loads of stuff from FT. It's why I post on this particular forum a lot (by my standards). I believe that if you buy "authentic" from FT then that is what you get - often more honestly than from some resellers in the UK.
"Check your sources" is great advice both at home and abroad.
Everybody gets bad luck on purchases sometimes. This is when you can check out how good a retailer is on returns. If they're bad, don't buy from them again and alert us, too.
Oh, by the way, we are English and therefore we should swear as much as we can. It helps to keep our language both alive and lively!
One thing about the Istick 50w (which I love and am vaping on now) is that it behaves better if you 5-click it off before charging. Then when charged put your Nauti Mini (or whatever) back on before you 5-click on. I have had mine auto-fire if you stick a tank on when it's already on.
It's great if you follow those rules, but that's just my take. I got mine from eleafuk on this occasion.
Please don't beat me, but how is Gearbests' shipping compared with Fasttechs' standard shipping? 4-5 weeks? I've ordered stuff from Fasttech and the standard free shipping usually gets here in 4-5 weeks. I placed an order with Gearbest on July the 7th, payment processed the 12th, is it still on the slow boat, or gone forever?
We don't beat people here!
General feeling is, Gearbest aren't exactly top of everyone's favourite places to shop
FT far more reliable.
Thanks for the reply , I've read a few things about Gearbest , but placed a small order of 8.00 to test the waters . I sent them an email, still waiting on a response. I'll give them a fair chance of 6 weeks which is forever, then I'll chock it up as a loss.We don't beat people here!
General feeling is, Gearbest aren't exactly top of everyone's favourite places to shop
FT far more reliable.
I agree. Initially hesitant, I've come to regard FT as an honest & reliable company to buy from, and customer service is extremely good.
Absolutely! ...and when done with as much finesse as possible, extremely effective!Oh, by the way, we are English and therefore we should swear as much as we can. It helps to keep our language both alive and lively!
Well I hope it works out OK for you this time.
I placed one order and they cancelled it because they'd advertised a wrong price. Refund came though without any trouble. Won't order again.
But, others here have had annoying experiences.
Oh, by the way, we are English and therefore we should swear as much as we can. It helps to keep our language both alive and lively!
Toe rag?
I've got a friend who lives in London, teaches me all the good stuff.
London, Salford, Manchester, Staffordshire - these are all great places to learn (and thereafter use) colourful language. The word .... is a great way of breaking up sentences imho.
They put little dots instead of the word I meant. Delicate flowers, eh?
They put little dots instead of the word I meant. Delicate flowers, eh?
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