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Well they must be a bunch of fecking winkers to do this to us! Censorship - I'd just cut it out! 
If they reply and give you some sort of fob off statement about stock - then ask for a refund back to how you paid for it - the refund can take up to 4 weeks to process
Whereabouts are you located as it doesn't say under your avatar
another way is to just put a star in place of a couple of the vowels - that usually works f*ckerWell they must be a bunch of fecking winkers to do this to us! Censorship - I'd just cut it out!
On clones vs authentics... I'm leaning towards now buying authentics more and more, but only if they are affordable.
Wouldn't buy a cloned regulated mod although tbh sometimes there are enough issues with the authentics (cloupor mini, istick 50w etc, although I have both and no problems whatsoever).
As I use rebuildables exclusively now I tend to get authentic tanks and clone RDAs as the originals are rarely affordable, I only have 1 cloned tank (kayfun lite) as the original was too expensive and the rest (lemos, lemo 2, subtank, soon to arrive goblin mini) are authentic.
Whereas I only have 1 authentic RDA (mutation x v4) as it was £25 delivered, and the rest are mostly FT clones which cost about $12 delivered and can be really good quality if you're careful, plus even if they're not perfect drippers are much more forgiving than mods or tanks anyway.
Mechanical mods I only have cloned for the same reasons.
Some of the cloned RDAs I love and use regularly would be $80-100 and more authentic, which I'm not prepared to pay. Much happier paying £20-30 and encouraging more companies to produce affordable authentics. Seeing an increase in these from companies like wotofo so that's good news I think.
Wouldn't buy a cloned regulated mod although tbh sometimes there are enough issues with the authentics (cloupor mini, istick 50w etc, although I have both and no problems whatsoever).
As I use rebuildables exclusively now I tend to get authentic tanks and clone RDAs as the originals are rarely affordable, I only have 1 cloned tank (kayfun lite) as the original was too expensive and the rest (lemos, lemo 2, subtank, soon to arrive goblin mini) are authentic.
Whereas I only have 1 authentic RDA (mutation x v4) as it was £25 delivered, and the rest are mostly FT clones which cost about $12 delivered and can be really good quality if you're careful, plus even if they're not perfect drippers are much more forgiving than mods or tanks anyway.
Mechanical mods I only have cloned for the same reasons.
Some of the cloned RDAs I love and use regularly would be $80-100 and more authentic, which I'm not prepared to pay. Much happier paying £20-30 and encouraging more companies to produce affordable authentics. Seeing an increase in these from companies like wotofo so that's good news I think.
I replied before reading how old this was. I'm sure someone else addressed it but here's what I wrote.
No you definitely can't put a nickel build on a mod that doesn't do temp control. Best case it won't work. Worst case it will blow (at least) your hand off.
Please remember ohms law when building. It's really important.
Battery charge / coil resistance = amps
If you have a single battery running 4.2 volts charged. And you have a 1 ohm build. You're at 4.2 amps constant draw
4.2 volt battery running at .5 and you're at 8.4 amps
4.2 volts at .1 build would run at 42 amps!
You have to find continuous draw of your battery. Most release at 4.1-4.3 volts fully charge. Most continuous draw shouldn't be run over 70% of continuous. And make sure it's continuous not max
My batteries typically have between a 20-30 amp max continuous. So your build is WAY over
I've been interested in the debates about clones and originals for a long time. Which is better made? Which works better?
In truth what we should be asking ourselves is who owns the rights to the engineering/design/spec.
Copyright law seems to be an unfamiliar concept in China, and yet we all turn a blind eye when it suits us.
Legally there's no contest - those who own the rights should not be cloned.
Morally - always a grey area. And it always will be until we stick up for rights.
This is why I get authentic stuff all the time these days. This doesn't make me a prince or saint, but it does mean that I would like r&d to be possible. That only works when people can put a margin on price to let development continue.
I still love a bargain, though!
I can't disagree that people have the right not to be cloned. I do think it's ridiculous when companies consider ip theft on a consumer left loss of a sale and I think as vaping is taking off companies like sviemesto and other boutique agencies are absolutely shooting themselves in the foot with their "Leica fever" mentality. I can only refer to it as that gicen my photography background but honestly $200 for a stainless steel atomizer is quite high. In disagreement with the earlier comment I'd argue the kayfun 4 is probably the most innovative design that took more r/d. And the squape.
What kills me are those who believe pricing high indicates quality. Look in the authentic threads of boutique designers and we see how false that is.
I don't understand why taifun elkonigin and svoemesto (and the mass of nameless others) wouldn't choose to manufacture for the masses and turn a 100% profit rather than a 1000% profit. Bt sell to more than 10x as many people. It doesn't make sense to me.
We're I to sell a desirable atomizer I would want as many sold as possible. Create a dedicated fan base for my future endeavors and branch into more areas growing the brand.
Leica didn't start being ten times the price of competitors. They earned their boutique pricing wih a century of recognition. The idea that one is born into $200 stainless steel tanks that hold half a tablespoon of liquid and more or less work like every other steel tank that holds the same
Amount. Works mostly the same way. Just leaves me confused.
Why not for example push the old model to mass
Market. Svoemesto should have developed the kayfun 4 and sold the lite after mass production for $30. R/d was recouped. Manufacturing isn't exactly hand made. They could have generated more future purchases. Gained mindshare. And pleased a great many vapers.
Don't get it at all.
All that said. It's not my right to contribute to theft of their design. However shutting down a clone would just mean I never tried anything they made. Whereas now at least I'm growing more willing to buy one authentic.
Grey indeed.
Finally
Does anyone know a website or forum thread which tracks new releases. I always end up hearing about new atomizers really late. Mods seem to be talked about regularly. I know when new battery devices and often even drippers are out but never tanks
Sorry for the length and happy weekend to you all
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We just keep an eye on the "junk" emails that our suppliers send us, or YT reviews like PBusardo.
I decided to try a sub ohm build in one of my KF4`s This morning ( First time ) in a `said` tank. 4/5 wraps ( spaced ) of 26 ga @ 2.5 mm dia. Came in at .5 ohms. Topped up with NT Band camp, 18.5 watts on my sig, and it is a much better vape than the 1.7 ohm coil i had in. Oh, and some vapemail, Muji cotton from Japan Bloody tons of the stuff.
Bloody tons of the stuff.
Yes, i was quite surprised at the speed of delivery Bob
Not too sure when i ordered it, but it can`t be much more than a week ago.
Thanks bob. Phil has really slowed down on new product reviews, so I was just curious.
8 wraps 2.5 mm. Split down the middle to make the infinity.
The flavor is amazing. So much better than a standard coil it blows me away. I'd say of all the twisted , Clapton, parallel coils, this has made the biggest difference. In a kf4 there's plenty of room but you have to elevate the build a bit more than usual. It seems fiddly initially but it's actually really simple. To prevent the leads crossing just wrap them a bit more than he did. It's not really an issue on the kf4 due to the wider deck. Fwiw I'm not a big fancy coil person. I buy twisted wire and I don't like spending time building extravagantly. I'm switching to this build until something better comes along.
I'd be really interested in reading how muji is compared to koh gen do if anyone can compare. I just bought cotton bacon to try. I feel it is a mild improvement from KGD really, and $6 for about 1/10 is probably not a big deal as it's still a fair bit. But not necessary. The only real benefit is it's quite malleable as its so fluffy. And tears by hand. What seems like far too much can be made to fit through, so it sort of mimics the thick wick technique in the end. It can be absolute,y stuffed in there and not give the overstuffed symptoms. I do find it still has he initial,cotton flavor though more mild. Despite their claims.
I just did my first infinity coil. I did it with 26 gauge nickel but kanthal would yield similar results on a non tc setup.I decided to try a sub ohm build in one of my KF4`s This morning ( First time ) in a `said` tank. 4/5 wraps ( spaced ) of 26 ga @ 2.5 mm dia. Came in at .5 ohms. Topped up with NT Band camp, 18.5 watts on my sig, and it is a much better vape than the 1.7 ohm coil i had in. Oh, and some vapemail, Muji cotton from Japan
8 wraps 2.5 mm. Split down the middle to make the infinity.
The flavor is amazing. So much better than a standard coil it blows me away. I'd say of all the twisted , Clapton, parallel coils, this has made the biggest difference. In a kf4 there's plenty of room but you have to elevate the build a bit more than usual. It seems fiddly initially but it's actually really simple. To prevent the leads crossing just wrap them a bit more than he did. It's not really an issue on the kf4 due to the wider deck. Fwiw I'm not a big fancy coil person. I buy twisted wire and I don't like spending time building extravagantly. I'm switching to this build until something better comes along.
I'd be really interested in reading how muji is compared to koh gen do if anyone can compare. I just bought cotton bacon to try. I feel it is a mild improvement from KGD really, and $6 for about 1/10 is probably not a big deal as it's still a fair bit. But not necessary. The only real benefit is it's quite malleable as its so fluffy. And tears by hand. What seems like far too much can be made to fit through, so it sort of mimics the thick wick technique in the end. It can be absolute,y stuffed in there and not give the overstuffed symptoms. I do find it still has he initial,cotton flavor though more mild. Despite their claims.
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I think we all ordered on the same day 03/08, I got the email stating shipped on 04/08Yes, i was quite surprised at the speed of delivery Bob
Most of you know that I still use a basic Evod for things like MCV that can clog coils up easily - I get 6 days with MCV using the new SOCC single coils - so, I see there's a mega Evod tank. Looks like a mega Mow, but has no air control just like the basic Evod, but larger capacity. KANGER EVOD MEGA CLEAROMISER
It's shown with a V2 VOCC type coil, but I'm thinking can there be any reason why I can't use a single basic style SOCC coil in it?
I did ask MyEPack but got no reply.
It's shown with a V2 VOCC type coil, but I'm thinking can there be any reason why I can't use a single basic style SOCC coil in it?
I did ask MyEPack but got no reply.
Just watched the opening part of a review for the Mega Kit and chappy said that the older Evod coils will work just as well
Thanks Bob
...did he mean the older BDC coils though? or even the subsequent older V2 coils, as they've been upgraded to VOCC (which aren't good). Whatever - think I'll get one and try the simple single coil - if it doesn't work, then I can still use it with V2 coils.
Probably meant the older V2 but could have been the BDC as well as he said bottom dual coilsThanks Bob
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