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Pictor

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I think Cosmic Fog makes a Milk and Honey.Its sweet and creamy
Ah! too high in PG for me, so that'll be why I've not looked too closely at that one.

Welsh custard was the last Concentrate I had had from Chefs it's been steeping for 3 weeks.Im gonna leave them as long as possible,don't know if it's right but I was told custards taste better after 3 months
did you look at the 'made on' date on the bottle? The Welsh Custard is pre-steeped, and I've always found it good right away.

Been doing a bit of thinking for those of you that do not like airy vapes, if you have some of these:
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You could easily make your own cutting out different size holes in the ring and fit it over the large air flow holes like on the Subtank to reduce the airflow
Good idea Bob! Think that would help with the subox subtanks ..not sure about the Triton though as that seems too airy for me no matter what I do.
Is it one of those non-slip rings?

Did a bit of looking around and think it may have been the Breakfast at Teleos 'The Milk' ..mention of brown sugar in it makes it sound good to me.

Really want to try Two Cans by Casey Jones Mainland Reserve.
But not only,he won't ship,but there is often a month waiting list.Popular stuff.
I was really pleased to finally get some of the Philip Rocke Grand Reserve ...only to find I was disappointed with it.
 

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Ah! too high in PG for me, so that'll be why I've not looked too closely at that one.

did you look at the 'made on' date on the bottle? The Welsh Custard is pre-steeped, and I've always found it good right away.

Good idea Bob! Think that would help with the subox subtanks ..not sure about the Triton though as that seems too airy for me no matter what I do.
Is it one of those non-slip rings?

Did a bit of looking around and think it may have been the Breakfast at Teleos 'The Milk' ..mention of brown sugar in it makes it sound good to me.

I was really pleased to finally get some of the Philip Rocke Grand Reserve ...only to find I was disappointed with it.
When I pop up my local shop I'll find out what the VG is it must be at least 70%.The way it fogs up the kitchen.If you or anyone wants to try a bottle post me a pm with your address and I'll send one off

Trisha did you try the iJust control ring
 
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I'll let you know what i think,probably be a while,as i'm pretty slow getting around to juices.
Clear leader in the cereal stakes,imo,at the moment is Looper.
Really enjoying the last batch of pink spot concentrates I ordered from chefs, I think their flavours are really consistent, I've tried 6 of them I think and 5 were really good (maybe even purchase again good, which I rarely do) and the other was still decent.

Been vaping a lot of "one love" past few days. It's a banana peanut butter flavour and it tastes kind of caramelly as well. Reminds me a bit of those biscoff biscuits you get with coffee sometimes. mmmmmmmmmm hmmmmmmmmmmm

Pink spot from Las Vegas? Wow you all are way more up on concentrates than others here I've spoken with. I had NO IDEA so many company's made concentrates. The reason they appeal is simplicity. It's more like expanding Eliquid than making it. I wonder why nobody here is really talking about them in mainstream spots. Maybe I need to hit the DIY forum. They don't even advertise they offer concentrates on their site. It really seems like that market hasn't taken off in the USA. I would suspect given juice prices here they want to hold off on selling concentrates as much as possible.
I think Cosmic Fog makes a Milk and Honey.Its sweet and creamy

Welsh custard was the last Concentrate I had had from Chefs it's been steeping for 3 weeks.Im gonna leave them as long as possible,don't know if it's right but I was told custards taste better after 3 months

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That's the only milk and honey I e tried. Prior to that of never heard of the flavor. Sort of like ry4 which are obviously all over yet I somehow missed :)

Bob that's a good idea. I got one of those when I bought a bottle of Mew's Juice

On the mention of steeping custard I've noticed it makes a big difference. However in concentrate form I can't see how it would really work o guess since they are no flavorings but concentrates they may blend better. I wouldn't have thought to steel before making the juice though


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When I pop up my local shop I'll find out what the VG is it must be at least 70%.The way it fogs up the kitchen.If you or anyone wants to try a bottle post me a pm with your address and I'll send one off

Trisha did you try the iJust control ring
I did, and yes it did help - used in on the Subox Subtank. Looks ugly but did make a difference :)

By the way - completely missed the fact you were talking about the Welsh Custard Concentrate! Sorry! Think when Chefs make it they do a 3 week pre-steep.
 
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Pink spot from Las Vegas? Wow you all are way more up on concentrates than others here I've spoken with. I had NO IDEA so many company's made concentrates. The reason they appeal is simplicity. It's more like expanding Eliquid than making it. I wonder why nobody here is really talking about them in mainstream spots. Maybe I need to hit the DIY forum.

Yes the very same although I buy the concentrates from chefs vapour not direct.

I've been vaping only DIY juice for ages and ages, primarily for cost reasons but also it's fun trying out new mixes.

I use both "complex" concentrates (where you just mix it and find your % sweet spot and it's good to go, like pink spot) but also try simple single flavours to mix together to make new flavours. Been playing around with various fruit cheesecake mixes lately and making my own fruity menthol flavours.
 
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Pink spot from Las Vegas? Wow you all are way more up on concentrates than others here I've spoken with. I had NO IDEA so many company's made concentrates. The reason they appeal is simplicity. It's more like expanding Eliquid than making it. I wonder why nobody here is really talking about them in mainstream spots. Maybe I need to hit the DIY forum. They don't even advertise they offer concentrates on their site. It really seems like that market hasn't taken off in the USA. I would suspect given juice prices here they want to hold off on selling concentrates as much as possible.
Have you had a look at all the brands Chefs Vapour stock? They probably have the biggest selection in Europe.
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Yes,i've seen that about Trish.It is meant to be excellent.
It's on my todo list,so many juices :blink:
Too many! There seem to be new ones every day ...makes my head spin and I usually just give up looking at them now. If I want something, I go looking for it - had an email from no1ejuice the other day and there were dozens to see - reading every profile of everything is just too overwhelming, and at times, too tempting! :laugh: At least they do list things according to VG content, so it does help :)
Pity the Teleos doesn't come in small bottles though, I'd try some now.

Just remembered I have some Chefs Honeycomb Ice Cream concentrate ..may need to make a small bottle to see what that's like!
 
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They are vape rings, usually used to protect glass tanks if the mod topples over.
OK, thanks - I'll get a few! :)

Do you know offhand where there's any plain ones? ...all the ones I can find have patterns or slogans on them.
Thought I'd easily find some black or white plain ones.
 
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Eurostar 25/09 to Antwerp to my mates house, then fly out from Brussels on 27/09 very early, back home to the missus 03/10

Must be 40 years since i was in Torremolinos,had a nights stopover there on the way down to Algerciras,to take the ferry to Morocco.
Glad i saw Morocco when i was younger,visited two years running.Don't know how safe it would be today,weren't there supposed to be fundamentalist training camps there?
 
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Yes the very same although I buy the concentrates from chefs vapour not direct.

I've been vaping only DIY juice for ages and ages, primarily for cost reasons but also it's fun trying out new mixes.

I use both "complex" concentrates (where you just mix it and find your % sweet spot and it's good to go, like pink spot) but also try simple single flavours to mix together to make new flavours. Been playing around with various fruit cheesecake mixes lately and making my own fruity menthol flavours.

I can't spend the time.makong my own.juice right now but I can expand my own juice.

It's equivalent in my mind to.squewzing a bunch of.fruit to find the perfect drink mix vs making a jug from a frozen can. Nailing a 20% expansion is certainly easy enough. I need to.jist try a bunch of these flavors and then set on concentrate. I would have been doing this ages ago but always assumed I had to.gk the complex route.
Have you had a look at all the brands Chefs Vapour stock? They probably have the biggest selection in Europe.
Concentrates - ChefsVapour

I have not gone through it all. I will. The main thing is I don't see concentrates advertised in the US. Mbv is actually the old site I see selling their mixes. Plenty of places to buy flavor.concentrates but not recipe concentrates. I will..definitely be going this road. I'm.goinf to.krder pg vg and nicotine as soon as I find a flavor I really like and see it comes in concentrate.

While.its not the savings of true day juice it's certain a lot less.expensive for very little work. I have about ten 120 ml bottles that would be perfect for this.

I need to see if I can mix some of the juice I don't really care for and get rid of it but I've no idea what will go aside from trying to make the bad dessert flavors better with a good custard.

I'm not much of a cook. So it stands to reason I wouldn't be creative with figuring out how to mix.my me juices to make good ones .


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Must be 40 years since i was in Torremolinos,had a nights stopover there on the way down to Algerciras,to take the ferry to Morocco.
Glad i saw Morocco when i was younger,visited two years running.Don't know how safe it would be today,weren't there supposed to be fundamentalist training camps there?
I believe Morocco is still fairly safe, but I wouldn't go to any muslim country myself, don't agree with their backward laws and I like my creature comforts too much, there was an offer to extend the week in Torremolinos with a few days across to North Africa, and we all agreed not to take part.
 
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I remember Morocco with affection,an innocent place,25 years behind the times.Suppose that has all changed 'tho.
Went as far down as the Atlas mountains,Marrakech,Casablanca.Then up to Rabat,Fez and Tetuan.And of course Tangier,docking point for the ferries.
Autumn in Morocco was heavenly.Perfect,neither too hot or cold.
 
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I have not gone through it all. I will. The main thing is I don't see concentrates advertised in the US. Mbv is actually the old site I see selling their mixes. Plenty of places to buy flavor.concentrates but not recipe concentrates. I will..definitely be going this road. I'm.goinf to.krder pg vg and nicotine as soon as I find a flavor I really like and see it comes in concentrate.
I think some of the companies decided to ship concentrates abroad for simplicity - that way, their selected re-sellers can either sell it as concentrate or make it themselves for resale. Makes international sales a lot easier.

The easiest way to start making your own is with a concentrate and a ready to use nicotine base. One good one in the US is Velvet Cloud - they have a 20% off everything sale this weekend too using the code LABORDAY :Velvet Cloud Unflavored Base
I've had a few bottles of this before Chefs started selling some.

I need to see if I can mix some of the juice I don't really care for and get rid of it but I've no idea what will go aside from trying to make the bad dessert flavors better with a good custard.

I'm not much of a cook. So it stands to reason I wouldn't be creative with figuring out how to mix.my me juices to make good ones .
Sometimes you just have to give up on the poorer ones, but custard or vanilla can make a big difference to some.
Flavours can be complex, but the more you use and look at various flavouring, the more you may find yourself pairing them and experimenting.
You can always find plenty of recipes online too.
 

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I believe Morocco is still fairly safe, but I wouldn't go to any muslim country myself, don't agree with their backward laws and I like my creature comforts too much, there was an offer to extend the week in Torremolinos with a few days across to North Africa, and we all agreed not to take part.
I tutored an art fortnight in Tunisia in the 90's, and after having our room turned over and searched, and then being followed around by the secret police plus a few other similar irritations, we vowed never to go back to the N African coast. It may have been OK for the oblivious tourist, but there were uncomfortable undercurrents throughout the fortnight.
The reason for being searched and followed was that we were put in one hotel whilst I was tutoring at another nearby (all part of the same cartel though) and we'd taken a huge suitcase full of art supplies and free samples provided by various companies - rather than ask what was in the case and what we were doing, they chose to search our rooms, copy info from our flight tickets, and then follow us for a week.
There were a few other happenings, including 4 of us out for a walk and our husbands being offered camels for their wives by a truly vicious looking group of men (I know, it sounds funny now) and even two reps mugged, and it was a relief to get back on the plane for home.
There was a reason armed guards patrolled the shore after dark at the bottom of the hotel gardens, and there was a barrier with armed guards at the front gate!
 
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I think some of the companies decided to ship concentrates abroad for simplicity - that way, their selected re-sellers can either sell it as concentrate or make it themselves for resale. Makes international sales a lot easier.

The easiest way to start making your own is with a concentrate and a ready to use nicotine base. One good one in the US is Velvet Cloud - they have a 20% off everything sale this weekend too using the code LABORDAY :Velvet Cloud Unflavored Base
I've had a few bottles of this before Chefs started selling some.

Sometimes you just have to give up on the poorer ones, but custard or vanilla can make a big difference to some.
Flavours can be complex, but the more you use and look at various flavouring, the more you may find yourself pairing them and experimenting.
You can always find plenty of recipes online too.
I'd say that's why it's not happening here. But again and I can't stress this enough. The vendors have left themselves no room regarding pricing. It's so Hugh here that if the legislation does ever arrive they are going to have to absorb the costs not pass to consumers given the markup at present is around 1200-1800% on 15ml bottles. Very few vendors here are even willing to sellblw $.50/ml and in quantity higher than 30ml. So they are certainly not going to sell concentrate that could make 100ml of juice for $5. I'm still surprised the market hasn't corrected however it is beginning to. We are starting to see simple but good juices pre-made at $.38-.42 a bottle. Still no where near concentrate pricing.

Honestly if the flavors are there for the concentrates offered. I won't probably go any further with mixing my own. For me $5 /100 ml vs $2 is fine. And as discussed while I have a great palette I am not well-versed in flavor matching.


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