@Pictor I mixed 100ml of banoffee tonight along with apple pie and Irish errr custard think it was
The banoffee has a similar cooling effect on the tongue that the strawberry vapetto has. The apple
Pie and custard tasted of next to nothing and what little was there tasted like an off custard. So I'll be interested to see if the apple pie comes out at all. I didn't vape either of them straight yet but I may drip a couple drops to see what there like freshly made.
Been well over a year since I tried those, and didn't buy them again - just not my favourites. Others liked them though.
There are several flavors not on your list. When I get the ratios from them I'll let you know what they are
Depends what brand they are - I have some info for some of the other brands.
@Pictor the banoffee is actually pretty good out of the gate but I think it may be a little weak at 30%. Seems more like 35% is needed. I have a second bottle of concentrate so I'll probably add 5 ml more or so and take the .25-.5% nicotine drop. Do you usually mix at closer to 25% or 35% or is it not a flavor you make? Also for the concentrates not by chefs is there a source for percentages.
As I understand it, high VG needs more flavour, so I always go to the upper limit with all of them, and add a little more if needed.
Where did you gather all the percentages you currently have and have given to me? I know you said it was before they redid s lot due to ingredients containing diacetyl and such - I wonder how accurate the list is now- a few of them chefs told me are quite different than the percentages on your list. I think some of the ones I have are flavor apprentice. But I'll line them up and give a list of what's still an unknown.
Chefs used to have a page on their site for percentages of their own, and the other brands. Rough guides, as people use different ratios of PG/VG, and taste things differently anyway.
With their own line, I've added alternatives in brackets when I've seen any mentioned.
This is what I have regarding other makes - (some can be verified either on the manufacturers website, or often by searching on this site.):
FLAVOUR CONCENTRATES
Flavour concentrate strengths vary depending on which company make them.
FlavorWest aka FW are known for having some weak concentrates, this doesn't make them a poor choice (FW Double apple tastes just like the real thing!) it's just you may find with some that you need a higher percentage say 20% and therefore it limits you to 1 or 2 flavourings per 10ml but, what I personally find to be a weak flavour, you may find it strong. Again, it's all down to personal taste.
FlavourArt aka FA and Decadent Vapours aka DV make some really strong concentrates and some you only need to use between 1% and 5%.
Most of the
FA tobacco concentrates I would recommend starting at 2% because they are very strong and they really come alive after a 2 week steep (some can take longer!) Some of the more general flavours need much higher i.e. 10% or more.
Mom & Pops aka M&P make some great standalone flavours and are great mixed between 10% and 20% but this would be down to your personal taste. Again, these really do benefit from a decent steep i.e. 2-3 weeks.
T-Juice also make some great standalone flavour concentrates. They are a great beginners concentrate because you can get great results from only using one concentrate. Use anything from 5% to 25% depending on your taste.
The Perfumers Apprentice aka TPA or PA have some amazing concentrates but they all vary in strength. We have used PA from 1% up to 10% depending on the type of juice you're making.
Inawera, LorAnns and Tasty Puff are all extremely strong and I personally wouldn't go any higher than 5% but again it's totally down to personal taste
Capella is any DIY mixers staple. I think every DIY mixer will have at least one Capella concentrate in their mixing box. They can be hit and miss but overall they're a great product. Use anything between 5% and 20%.
One on One flavourings are new to us and we're still playing with them ourselves but from what we've found so far they can be quite strong so use anything between 5% and 15%
Here is a usage guideline for our selection of flavour concentrates...
FlavourArt - 1% to 10%
Their Tobacco concentrates are extremely strong.
Decadent Vapours - 1% to 15%
Mom & Pops - 10% to 20%
Perfumers Apprentice - 1% to 10%
Capella - 5% to 20%
One to One - 5% to 15%
Inawera - 1% to 5%
Tasty Puff - 1% to 5%
LorAnns - 1% - 5%
FlavorWest - 10% to 20%
Rebranded 1-5%
Chefs Choice 10-20%
These percentages are only guidelines and not set in stone. Making your own juice is a personal experience so tweak them to your taste. If you're following a recipe you've found online and think you might find some of the flavourings a bit high or a bit low then change them. No one is right when it comes to percentages. It's down to you to decide whether you like Capella Vanilla Custard at 10% or 20% or whether you like more VG and less PG.
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They do have a few other brands that I don't have the percentages for - Mount Baker is one (They call it Master Baker) and I saw this on the Mount Baker website a while back:
Our flavoring concentrates are strong and should be used sparsely.
We recommend the concentrated e-juice flavoring to be mixed at 15% - 40% with Unflavored Nicotine Juice.
I did get cheesecake for one to try as well as creme brûlée and Cinderella. Since I sent them an email discussing the site issues I also suggested they start putting percentages in the description and it looks like they've started doing it! Cinderella is mix @ 20%
They used to be pretty good for such info., but both descriptions and mixing ratios haven't been kept up to date very well since they got the new website.
I just tried the apple pie and Irish creme custard and it's dreadful. Mixed at 30% and just made a few hours ago. I won't have any trouble leaving that in the cupboard to steep for quite a long time. Good thing I just bought one of them.
Can't comment on that because I've not used it for a long time, and certainly never mixed any.
No doubt though, where there's been any reformulation due to diacetyl etc., there'll be a slight flavour difference with some, and perhaps also the percentages will need tweaking to suit.
Best would be if they produced a guide page for percentages with up to date info. A rough guide is all we'd need as a starting point.
On a personal note. After my feel great morning things have gone quite badly. Punctuated by a mind numbing tooth pain out of nowhere. I keep gold care of my teeth and I had imvisalign dine. Haven't had any issues in a long time. I wouldn't be surprised if the steroids weakened my immune system so much I got some kind of infection in my jaw. Anyway. It stinks. On top of everything else. I don't believe in the power of prayer but boy do I need a turn of good luck for a minute even. Cross your fingers for me or something.
I hope the tooth pain subsides quickly! I've had teeth suddenly become sensitive or painful at times, and it tends to go of it's own accord.
Certainly agree re steroids - I got a cold type bug that was going around before Christmas, but it hit me like flu and made me quite unwell.
I've been off them 6 weeks, and still getting rid of side effects. The worst have gone though: terrible back, joint and muscle pains, sleeping long hours during the day/evening, palpitations/rapid heart rate, uncomfortable distension, swollen glands in throat .....lots of things, and I'm really hoping I don't need to go back on them, as some ailments can be steroid dependant. It's quite likely that any unusual problems you get are down to the steroids.
I saw my consultant yesterday after 5 weeks of no medication (the maintenance non-steroid one made me short of breath it seemed).
I'd had a scare on Thursday evening when I though it had comeback, so lucky I had an appointment yesterday, but he reassured me that it was unlikely, and was probably IBS which can become more troublesome when someone gets colitis.
So, he's put me back on the maintenance drug, one tablet per day for 2 weeks, and go to two per day if all is OK.
Not sure what to expect because the breathlessness didn't go away altogether, so will need to play it by ear.
An alternative, other than low dose steroids, is a much more complicated treatment that involves much monitoring and blood work repeatedly, and as such can be expensive. It'll mean a shared system where the insurance/private consultant will pay part, the GP the rest, so we'll have to see if they'll be happy with that if need be. Can't say I'd be happy having to have more doctor visits and blood tests! Just having to go has a psychological effect on whether one feels well or ill!
Shame about the medication though because the consultant seems pleased with progress - after ominously pointing out to us both yesterday that I'd had a particularly vicious attack of colitis! - and he said that with care and consideration with things, I will hopefully remain well if we can only get the maintenance medication issue settled.
I'm really hoping this medication works, because the consultant said that if all is well, I don't need to see him again for 3 months unless something crops up.
I do hope you feel better very soon - I did find that some days I seemed to take a few steps back-over much to my frustration, and it can be quite upsetting/alarming until things progress again. Have faith in your own resolve and determination, and in the meanwhile, I'll keep my toes crossed for you ( I hope to need the fingers to work if I can persuade myself!)
