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[Bobw1951]

I just like how easy they are to use. Should make coil building a breeze, even twisted wire builds.

Not really interested in twisted - too much trouble getting the drill out etc.

I have a separate syringe in case I need to empty a tank to play with the wick. But you're right, still a pain

So do I

I reckon I'll be second then. Good job I placed an each way bet

Knowing the service I seem to be getting mine will arrive 2 weeks after yours

 

[Pictor]

I was not impressed with the Nanna Bear, didn't like the taste at all

I got Polar Bear and found it OK, not super brilliant. Haven't used it for a while though, so not sure how it 'keeps'. I don't like banana ones at all.

I'm going to get some Gremlin Custard to try if Nathan got any more stock in yet (Cloudhouse).

 

[trouble1000]

Think I'm going to retire now.

On a late shift tomorrow, worst luck. For some strange reason nobody wanted to swap with me for an earlier start

So night all.

 

[Bobw1951]

Will make sure a take a pic or 2.

There seems to be some confusion on whether you want to do Parallel coils which is just 2 strands wrapped around the mandrel keeping them together as you wrap them

http://i.imgur.com/Dg5pnH2.jpg

or a dual serial build which is doing 2 normal coils and on the same side of a 3 post atty you go from Neg to Pos then Pos to the other Neg and then the same on the other side of the of the posts like this:

 

[dw117]

I'm sat on my sofa a nice cold pint of black sheep ale with my mvp puffing on nanner bear. What's everybody's fav vape to go with their drink

With a beer I think Chefs Lew's Brew is my favourite actually. I know it's meant to be a coffee vape but I get quite a bit of maltyness from it so I think it goes well. As I've said before I like mt baker lemon bar with a wee dram of whisky as it's not too sweet and compliments the drink if it's not too smoky or peaty a whisky.

I made it in honour of my good mate Terry Just joking, I like to name all my juices. Terry was the first guinea pig to try it out and liked it - so it become Terry's Jungle Juice

Only in the most remote jungles of Rochdale, that's probably why you've not heard of them mate

It is a very secret recipe, but I'll send you a PM later with the ingredients

Give it a try, you won't be disappointed

Shall do as I see you've sent me a PM, I'll reply in a sec. Thanks mate. Have to admit I've never been to the jungles of Rochdale so I'll take your word for it!

Gonna rebuild a couple more rta's tomorrow. Can you confirm that a parallel coil is when 2 wires are coiled at the same time, not 2 separate coils. And on the Steam engine site it's classed as dual coil serial. So 28awg at 2.4mm diameter for a 1.2ohm would be 3 wraps.

But then a single coil using the same gear would be 7 wraps so is there any benefit?

Or should I try a dual (2 separate coils) side by side shotgun style?

Check out this video for the technique to wrapping them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MNJuYuwgwI

For thicker wire (28ga and lower) and pinching the end with pliers it's not much different to wrapping a normal coil.

Dave, a parallel coil is 2 wires coiled side by side - you're right mate.

On the steam engine site change "Round" to "Round, twisted/parallel" in the drop down box. Then leave "twist pitch" at zero, change everything else as necessary - coil diameter, wire diameter etc.

The parallel build isn't quite as harsh a throat hit as a dual coil. Their both good ones to try though mate. The parallel build, gives you more wick to coil contact in a single coil area, so more popping

I have to admit playing with steam engine using these settings I don't understand it, it seems to give me way more wraps than I would guess. Whenever I've made parallel coils I've just used the normal dual coil option on steam engine, and when I've made these coils the resistance comes out similar to a normal dual coil with the same wire/diameter etc.

If you think about the way the wires are arranged, Maybe I'm wrong but surely from an electrical point of view a parallel dual coil is exactly the same as a separate dual coil. They are both separate positive to negative connections and its just that they sit side by side in what we call a "parallel" coil. Of course they heat up differently because of the way they're arranged.

Anyway, they're good stuff and I think they heat up more as the coils are side by side, so less heat is lost to the air around them.

A dual serial build would be wrapping two coils using the same piece of wire along the same positive to negative connection, just with a break of straight wire in the middle, and I've never seen anyone do one.

 

[dw117]

There seems to be some confusion on whether you want to do Parallel coils which is just 2 strands wrapped around the mandrel keeping them together as you wrap them
or a dual serial build which is doing 2 normal coils and on the same side of a 3 post atty you go from Neg to Pos then Pos to the other Neg and then the same on the other side of the of the posts like this:

View attachment 403052

Yes maybe you've explained it better with pictures but this is what I was getting at in my last post.

 

[Bobw1951]

Yes maybe you've explained it better with pictures but this is what I was getting at in my last post.

I think we were both writing at about the same time

 

[terry w]

Whatever, I'll place another order and see how things go

How ? It`s never bloody open

It's been one those fiasco situations! Never mind ...there'll be other 'stuff' along

Yes, it`s certainly been that trish. AGAIN

 

[Marcus1970]

Have anybody tried Red Astaire by t juice.Im looking for a really fruity menthol type juice

 

[Pictor]

How ? It`s never bloody open

Shurrup!
I know - I was disappointed to see it closed today. I understood over Christmas etc. as he went to visit his family in the US, but I'll wait to see what's in stock next week!

I ordered 100ml of Doughnut King last night, so that one will be stocked up again. Next will be the Mint Choc Vapetto in a couple of weeks.
I'll try the Indigo RY tomorrow - be well steeped now!

Yes, it`s certainly been that trish. AGAIN

They say 'little things sent to try us' ....but not that often surely!
I get times when I wonder each day what'll be thrown my day to deal with today! - not asking for anything special ....just 'normal' will do.

 

[Pictor]

Have anybody tried Red Astaire by t juice.Im looking for a really fruity menthol type juice

I haven't but some people do seem to like it. I don't care for eucalyptus in with the menthol personally, so not my thing really.
I have been thinking of adding some Steam Gunk Frution to a decent menthol though!

 

[Marcus1970]

I haven't but some people do seem to like it. I don't care for eucalyptus in with the menthol personally, so not my thing really.
I have been thinking of adding some Steam Gunk Frution to a decent menthol though!

Steam Gunk Fruiton is it really friuty because I've got lots of menthol.I find them to strong to vape on their own.They was the juice that helped me quit smoking

 

[dw117]

Have anybody tried Red Astaire by t juice.Im looking for a really fruity menthol type juice

You might want to check out Mt Baker Hawk Sauce, I recently got some concentrate of it and made my own and while it needs more time to steep I think but my first impressions were good and it's one of their most popular juices. The menthol-ness to it is at a nice level, not too overpowering, it's more of a cool finish to a definitely fruity juice. I've tried a few other fruity menthol juices and the menthol is too strong for me often.

I have heard good things about red astaire though and was planning on getting some concentrate for it when it's back in stock at chefs.

 

[Pictor]

Steam Gunk Fruiton is it really friuty because I've got lots of menthol.I find them to strong to vape on their own.They was the juice that helped me quit smoking

I found it really fruity and that was in VG too, so with PG added would likely have more flavour. I also had the SG menthol and found that a good one that isn't too strong on the menthol.
I like a fairly positive menthol, and the MBV with 2 shots suits me quite well - if I added some Frution to it I'd find it quite nice I think. Bear in mind though that mixing the Frution with another menthol would 'dilute' the menthol flavour, so you'd need a powerful one to start with. If you already have a fairly strong menthol, the Frution would be good to mix in.
If you like tropical fruits like Passion Fruit, Mango & Papaya, Chefs PMP has a very good fruit taste - I like it on it's own or even with some Strawberry Vapetto mixed in, so that would work with a menthol or even just Koolada.
A menthol with eucalyptus in it will usually be more powerful.

You might want to check out Mt Baker Hawk Sauce, I recently got some concentrate of it and made my own and while it needs more time to steep I think but my first impressions were good and it's one of their most popular juices. The menthol-ness to it is at a nice level, not too overpowering, it's more of a cool finish to a definitely fruity juice. I've tried a few other fruity menthol juices and the menthol is too strong for me often.

I have heard good things about red astaire though and was planning on getting some concentrate for it when it's back in stock at chefs.

I've seen Hawk Sauce get good reviews too! Faux Hawk also.

I got some MBV G Men which is a Guava with Menthol (2 shots), but find the Guava a little bit on the weak side. I'll add something to it though!

 

[Davantrac]

There seems to be some confusion on whether you want to do Parallel coils which is just 2 strands wrapped around the mandrel keeping them together as you wrap them

http://i.imgur.com/Dg5pnH2.jpg

or a dual serial build which is doing 2 normal coils and on the same side of a 3 post atty you go from Neg to Pos then Pos to the other Neg and then the same on the other side of the of the posts like this:

View attachment 403052

Just checked out the posts this morning and it's def the parralel I'm gonna try. Cheers everyone.

 

[Bobw1951]

Just checked out the posts this morning and it's def the parralel I'm gonna try. Cheers everyone.

I did mine as 6/5 wraps [as I was making it for my KFL+] 30g around a 3mm mandrel to get as close to 1 ohm, it turned out at 0.92.

The main problem is that using the 2 strands it is harder get them under the screws or in the post holes due to the thickness, that's why I used 30g, you might also try once you have the coils made, twisting the ends together, A) to make them stronger and B) might help with screwing them down.

 

[trouble1000]

Shall do as I see you've sent me a PM, I'll reply in a sec. Thanks mate. Have to admit I've never been to the jungles of Rochdale so I'll take your word for it!

Oh the jungles in Rochdale have blackcurrants everywhere, you have to be careful of the mosquitos though. Their the size of footballs

I have to admit playing with steam engine using these settings I don't understand it, it seems to give me way more wraps than I would guess. Whenever I've made parallel coils I've just used the normal dual coil option on steam engine, and when I've made these coils the resistance comes out similar to a normal dual coil with the same wire/diameter etc.

If you think about the way the wires are arranged, Maybe I'm wrong but surely from an electrical point of view a parallel dual coil is exactly the same as a separate dual coil. They are both separate positive to negative connections and its just that they sit side by side in what we call a "parallel" coil. Of course they heat up differently because of the way they're arranged.

Anyway, they're good stuff and I think they heat up more as the coils are side by side, so less heat is lost to the air around them.

A dual serial build would be wrapping two coils using the same piece of wire along the same positive to negative connection, just with a break of straight wire in the middle, and I've never seen anyone do one.

looks like we've all got different ways of doing it mate. As long as it's checked on an ohm meter or a decent regulated devices and it works ok, guess that's all that matters

To be honest, a lot of the time, I don't even bother checking on steam engine. Most of my builds have been done a few times, so I already know how I want to wrap them. I just use the site if I'm trying a new build. But, I'll still check the final product for resistance - for safety's sake.

Just checked out the posts this morning and it's def the parralel I'm gonna try. Cheers everyone.

Good luck with it Dave. The first time, it seems a bit fiddly, but it does get easier the more you build them

 

[trouble1000]

Well that's my check in for today.

Got a phone call from the Mother-in Law, her car battery is flat - she's been away for 3 weeks and left her interior light on So I'd better go and sort that out before work.

See you all later. Might pop in after work, depends how knackered I am.

 

[Brynglas]

I just got a few from Avant Garde in London- they do a VG range, and I got their Heavenly Custard ..it only came two days ago, so not steeped. Smells pretty good though! I already like their French Vanilla - had that a couple of weeks now. Chocolate Glazed Doughnut is chocolate forward, but well flavoured.
Grey Haze have a fairly large range of VG ones.
Flavour Art UK do some good ones too - customisable!
Vape Green have a few brands including Velvet Cloud & Virgin,
In the US, Heathers, Highbrow and Indigo, MBV, Velvet Cloud all do Max VG

Good info this
Thanks Trish

 

[Davantrac]

Ok here's my first parallel build came out at 0.5 ohm, don't know what I did yet will check my numbers later.

And a normal coil at 2.4mm dia and 1.2ohm.
Not to bad even if I say so myself.