I've been trying to order two of these.No PayPal on the site and I haven't got a credit card only have a debit card
Grrr gutted
Just ordered two from sweet vapes for £21.08.Very happy now,wanted one of these for a long time.Strange why they're not on sale in the Uk
Great! Glad you managed that!
Not sure how they distributed these things, but again, a fair number of French sites have them listed, some out of stock - not clear whether they're waiting for stock or already ran out. Some are quite expensive too. I checked the retailer in Ireland, but they haven't listed this one.
They're described as 'Limited Edition' on some sites.
Paypal seems to be disassociating itself from e-cig products.
As you say Trish, unbelievable, but typical of this kind attack he can use the term "professional" in his opinion and at best the supporters of vaping are seen as enthusiastic laymen, at worst being in many cases vendors or suppliers, as having a vested interest. We need a credible professional to champion our cause.
Thing is, we've seen plenty of professional studies and results from eminent physicians, surgeons and scientists ..many based at our own UK hospitals. Articles have been published in the Lancet, or produced after in depth studies by such as Prof. Rbt. West of UCH London.
How more professional do they
need?
As I've said before, when the doctors and scientists were issuing similar research that warned of the dangers in cigarette smoking, the governments told us to listen to them and stop smoking ...in fact, they never shut up telling us, knowing very well that the percentages of smokers would not drop too much due to the highly addictive ingredients in cigarettes - so eventually, a way that is even better than a compromise evolved, and millions have found it effective and benefitted - so now, why are we not being told
this time to listen to the scientists?
I can only see it as governments pandering to the BT and BP - BT for obvious reasons, and BP because they too are losing money from the NRT products, and both likely wish they had been the champions of the e-cigs ..profiting and happy
I don't doubt for a moment that these big industries provide plenty of cash to the campaign and general coffers of the various political party's. Threats to remove that support, together with the decrease in tax revenue are enough to turn the governments heads when the naysayers try devious tactics like false information regarding the safety of e-cigs.
As I said before - I can not believe the blinkered obstinacy of governments when it comes to the bottom line and the bean counters.
As I see it part of the problem is that the antis want to attack at every opportunity whereas the pros just want to be left to vape in peace
I have a bad feeling that lack of organisation and a general burying of heads in the sand is going to lead to the end of vaping, the ill informed but unchallenged interview that you linked being a symptom of a general lethargy and air of denial amongst the majority of vapers, I'm sure that most vapers dont use forums or bother to read articles concerning the future of vaping so any liberties taken by the powers that be will go largely unchallenged until it's too late
Too many people don't know what they're talking about, and don't take the time to read through at least a couple of reports on the subject ...proper, professional reports that is.
The whispering antis are mostly the fat cats who want to keep the smokers smoking, followed by the anti-smoking brigade who are too stubborn to see that there is virtually no similarity to smoking tobacco. The nicotine is the only common denominator, and even then, it's a different form altogether.
Perhaps if a more official body of professionals got together and had an intense and informative campaign against any harsh regulation, the government would find it harder to bulldoze it aside.
Two party leaders (that I know of) have so far used e-cigs favourably in this campaign: Clegg admitting he uses one with blueberry liquid and has stopped smoking recently by using it, and Farage who finds they're helping him cut down on cigarettes.
I don't think it's a coincidence that this information came out in recent interviews - it proves that they're all well aware that there's a lot of public feeling in favour of e-cigs, and probably think it will draw more votes their way if they're seen to be endorsing it rather than condemning it.
I daresay Farage may not impose much in the way of restrictions if he had power, but I don't think Clegg would seek to block any such legislation. He'd perhaps be more in favour of a limited 'weaning off' programme with dispensed nicotine liquid/cartridges, because he'll
perhaps be one of the people who use them to give up and then stop using them altogether.
No good feeling cuddly and happy with a politicians manifesto promises and electioneering ...they never carry it all out.
Perhaps the real plan is to slam 80% tax on them together with minor legislation for quality, and then we'll accept it easier because we're relieved they aren't banning them!
Whatever the plans are, I don't think they listen to us that much.
I'd love to see a proper televised debate between the politicians and EU lawmakers, and professionals from science, medicine and also the electronics industry. The one side could put forward their argument to legislate or ban, and the others could set their 'misconceptions' straight, and put forward counter-argument of the benefits and minimal risks both from a health point of view and that of savings to the NHS.
An audience would help too ...perhaps a form of 'Question Time'! BBC would never stick it's neck out that far though.
If you could find out how to `keep it going` 
I am really working on you now aren`t i 
