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[Pictor]

Went out and cut all the grass this morning.COLD!
Weather is all over the place,a week ago it was shattering windows

I actually put the heating on for an hour yesterday morning because the stat had dropped in the house and I was feeling cold. Not just me because my husband put it on last night for a while too.
I did hear on the forecast a chance of frost in some areas, but didn't catch where. Very unpredictable weather!
Don't care what the calendar says - I've got a sweater on today!

Surely with the TPD,it's upto each nation, how severely they implement a ban.Maybe here in the U.K it won't be so strict as in the link Trish posted.I read the other day 25% of British smokers have turned to vaping.The ban has proved a failure in Italy,if driving people back to smoking is what they had in mind.

Surely though, even if they did impose such restrictions, it wouldn't happen overnight, and retailers won't stop selling them until close to any such restrictions being actually implemented ..and it'll surely take a year or so after next May to do that?
There's far too much that's vague regarding the UK - almost as though they cannot make up their minds which way to jump ...or are they afraid to be specific because it'll cause a fuss.

The positive evidence is plain for them to see - they don't even have to go looking for it - yet still they choose to ignore it in favour of appeasing the BT and BP companies.
They should leave it be and do a proper 5-10 year study on the effects, not only on the e cig using population, but that of the NHS with regard to smoking related disease cases and costs. There must surely be a significant drop.
If, within the confines of that 5-10 year study, proven, irrefutable evidence came to light that some aspect of it was indeed dangerous to health in some previously unknown way, then would be the time to consider the silly restrictions mentioned in things like that newsletter email.

I've been reading about some prescription drugs for an ailment I've been suffering with these past few weeks - all carry significant side effects, and I'm not prepared to start taking any of them until I see if I can improve things with alternatives that may take longer to work, but have few if any side effects.
E-cigs aren't much different - aspects of them do cause 'side effects' for a minority, and we choose whether or not to use them, much in the same way as we do with certain drugs/treatments.
I know for a fact that some heavily prescribed drugs can and do cause significant side effects, some irreversible if not caught in time, yet still they mass prescribe them - where's the difference? If anything, the latter is far more worrying than the former as things stand.

 

[Brynglas]

then I think it becomes law in all EU countries

Not nice, knowing we may have no control in our own country anymore,regarding anything,not just talking vaping.

 

[Bobw1951]

I told the guy in the local B&M, Vapourhut(Flint).I would not be spending anymore money at his shop.
I started a conversation regarding the TPD,and he was unaware what that actually was.After i explained to him,i asked him what he was prepared to do to protect the future of his business and vaping.His answer basically said there was nothing he could do.

OK! Mate you roll over and die,I'M OFF!!

and I think that is what the majority will say also - other countries will fight for their rights - here we appear to be apathetic when it comes to it.

 

[Brynglas]

I actually put the heating on for an hour yesterday morning because the stat had dropped in the house and I was feeling cold. Not just me because my husband put it on last night for a while too.
I did hear on the forecast a chance of frost in some areas, but didn't catch where. Very unpredictable weather!
Don't care what the calendar says - I've got a sweater on today!

Ours is running now Trish.
Same with the sweater,i'm sat here like it's the start of October.

 

[Bobw1951]

I've got a sweater on today!

and I'm sat here with the window ajar, string vest and shorts, thought Norverners were supposed be able to cope better when it's colder

 

[Pictor]

I would recommend to anyone not to use these companies that want to roll over and play dead before anything actually has come into force, let them go out of business the hard way, without selling off any of their stock...

Quite agree - I'm disgusted that such a company would be seen to be almost falling over itself to play the governments game!

There is an item in the thread about TPD on here about a court hearing in Italy where they have deemed the increase in taxation as unlawful:
The TPD means nothing | E-Cigarette Forum

I'll go and read that in a while.
There's too many grey areas with no definitions that are precise. I want out of the EU! Sick of them making so many of our laws - Britain got on fine doing things our way.

I'm actually unsure on that, I know up until May each nation has the right to implement as much as they think fit, but unless the TPD is altered in anyway before May, then I think it becomes law in all EU countries, the whole thing is a minefield, just hope the TW attack on it forces the idiots to have a rethink on TPD2/20

Again, no-one seems to be 100% sure what we can expect, or when the actual axe would fall as law.

I told the guy in the local B&M, Vapourhut(Flint).I would not be spending anymore money at his shop.
I started a conversation regarding the TPD,and he was unaware what that actually was.After i explained to him,i asked him what he was prepared to do to protect the future of his business and vaping.His answer basically said there was nothing he could do.

OK! Mate you roll over and die,I'M OFF!!

Unbelievable that he should be in ignorance of it to that degree!
Too many people jump on a money making bandwagon, and as soon as it either goes out of fashion or something like this happens, they merely look for their next money maker.

 

[Bobw1951]

I know for a fact that some heavily prescribed drugs can and do cause significant side effects, some irreversible if not caught in time, yet still they mass prescribe them - where's the difference? If anything, the latter is far more worrying than the former as things stand.

Exactly - one law for BP and another for the rest of us - makes me sick [sic]

 

[Bobw1951]

I want out of the EU! Sick of them making so many of our laws - Britain got on fine doing things our way.

I'm beginning to think that way as well - some of the stupid laws they have created which Britain has implemented to the hilt, whilst other countries have ignored them - think bananas and tomatoes [size and shape]

 

[Brynglas]

and I'm sat here with the window ajar, string vest and shorts, thought Norverners were supposed be able to cope better when it's colder

We can,It's always warmer Darn Sarf

I want out of the EU!

Me aswell,let's hope a certain promise is kept.But i can well imagine the country voting to stay in,anyway

I'm beginning to think that way as well - some of the stupid laws they have created which Britain has implemented to the hilt, whilst other countries have ignored them - think bananas and tomatoes [size and shape]

Don't forget the sausages and black pudding Bob

 

[Brynglas]

Vapemail :
You'd think i liked the stuff

And a packet of Subtank black o rings i ordered from Puremist 3 months ago, and have already had a refund on

 

[Bobw1951]

I had some vape mail as well, batteries from UKeCS and my YiLoong VF squonker which I have already put in an RMA for as it doesn't appear to work - keeps saying Weak Battery and shuts down as soon as I put an atty on it.

 

[Pictor]

Exactly - one law for BP and another for the rest of us - makes me sick [sic]

Our taxes, never mind needs, pale into insignificance when it comes to party coffer funds & 'back scratching'!

I'm beginning to think that way as well - some of the stupid laws they have created which Britain has implemented to the hilt, whilst other countries have ignored them - think bananas and tomatoes [size and shape]

No country should have such a large percentage (none in fact) of it's laws dictated by people from other countries with other agendas. They don't live here, don't have a lifelong knowledge of the population and life here, and certainly do not have our interests at heart.
Why it should be a triumph to some particular foreign politician to have decreed that cucumbers and bananas be straighter, is not only ridiculous, it beggars belief that they waste time and money on such things.
But, the ridiculous laws may be one thing, those that change our liberty or way of life are another thing altogether, and I want none of it.


Our government has been so transparently devious and self serving ...and although I know it's divisive, I'm appalled that the government is to have a vote within themselves regarding fox hunting.
I expected it to be done with for all there's those disregarding it in places. For me, it's a practice that belongs in the past.
Is it a case of 'Hey Mr PM, if you reinstate our game of foxhunting, we'll hurl thousands into your party coffers' ?

 

[Brynglas]

I had some vape mail as well, batteries from UKeCS and my YiLoong VF squonker which I have already put in an RMA for as it doesn't appear to work - keeps saying Weak Battery and shuts down as soon as I put an atty on it.

Was that the one sourced in the UK Bob? If so,better than sending back to China.

 

[Bobw1951]

Was that the one sourced in the UK Bob? If so,better than sending back to China.

Yup, not far from you; BoldVape in Ellesmere Port

 

[Pictor]

Not nice, knowing we may have no control in our own country anymore,regarding anything,not just talking vaping.

So, in a way, it almost looks like a dictatorship - albeit one of a committee of dictators - rather then the democracy that we thought we had ...did we actually ever think we had that? Hmm.

and I think that is what the majority will say also - other countries will fight for their rights - here we appear to be apathetic when it comes to it.

We are far too reluctant to stand and be counted.

Ours is running now Trish.
Same with the sweater,i'm sat here like it's the start of October.

I see people walk by with coats and shorts on! So silly. I dress to suit the temperature as it feels to me, and nothing else.
I think this woolly hat looks rather chic anyway

and I'm sat here with the window ajar, string vest and shorts, thought Norverners were supposed be able to cope better when it's colder

I've always been very sensitive to extremes of temperature either way, and absolutely hate being cold!
It's warmed up a little now because the sun is out ...so OK for now.

Me aswell,let's hope a certain promise is kept.But i can well imagine the country voting to stay in, anyway

I can see it being a close thing - depends what peoples values are and how much of the propaganda they believe in regard to leaving the EU. We coped very well without it, but many won't recall that.
He surely can't renege on that one - it was a promise!

Don't forget the sausages and black pudding Bob

Perfumes, household cleaners/washing powders, fruit & produce from non-EU countries, aspects of human rights that actually put our basic rights at risk, and so very many aspects of every day life, the list will be very long.

Vapemail :
You'd think i liked the stuff

Ah! It's an attempt to corner the market!

I had some vape mail as well, batteries from UKeCS and my YiLoong VF squonker which I have already put in an RMA for as it doesn't appear to work - keeps saying Weak Battery and shuts down as soon as I put an atty on it.

I should have had a few bits, but haven't even seen our postman today!

 

[e-pipeman]

Our taxes, never mind needs, pale into insignificance when it comes to party coffer funds & 'back scratching'!

No country should have such a large percentage (none in fact) of it's laws dictated by people from other countries with other agendas. They don't live here, don't have a lifelong knowledge of the population and life here, and certainly do not have our interests at heart.
Why it should be a triumph to some particular foreign politician to have decreed that cucumbers and bananas be straighter, is not only ridiculous, it beggars belief that they waste time and money on such things.
But, the ridiculous laws may be one thing, those that change our liberty or way of life are another thing altogether, and I want none of it.


Our government has been so transparently devious and self serving ...and although I know it's divisive, I'm appalled that the government is to have a vote within themselves regarding fox hunting.
I expected it to be done with for all there's those disregarding it in places. For me, it's a practice that belongs in the past.
Is it a case of 'Hey Mr PM, if you reinstate our game of foxhunting, we'll hurl thousands into your party coffers' ?

The timing of the Fox Hunting vote is interesting. It will occur before any EVEL laws are implemented. It's a free vote after a 90-minute debate, I understand.

 

[Brynglas]

Yup, not far from you; BoldVape in Ellesmere Port

Gosh! Didn't realise he was from the port.He's only just started up in earnest hasn't he,that's John Bold who used to trade via FB?

 

[Brynglas]

I should have had a few bits, but haven't even seen our postman today!

Vans probably broken down in the cold

 

[Pictor]

There is an item in the thread about TPD on here about a court hearing in Italy where they have deemed the increase in taxation as unlawful:The TPD means nothing | E-Cigarette Forum

Just read that!

 

[Pictor]

Vans probably broken down in the cold

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I have a box full of new mods, cylindrical battery types ones, tanks of various types, 100's of coils that I'm adding to weekly, and so far, 650ml 72mg nicotine.

Wonder how much more nicotine I should buy seeing I average 0.4mg now ? - plenty of room in my little freezer.

I'm assuming that 18650 batteries won't disappear?

If things do eventually get as bad as some seem to think, I'll reduce nicotine strength further, and if I can't stop altogether, and ultimately necessary (if VG versions are available) use whatever is available.

I wonder if people who return to smoking could sue governments if they find they get a tobacco/smoking related disease in the future?
I could at least envisage a test case by someone with enough cash.