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TBH I think it is necessary if you are now playing with dual battery mods, as a lot of them do not balance charge as they should, and dual batteries should be married together from new and charged together, once you part a married pair then they should only be used in single battery mods.
Not totally sure what you mean - do I leave them in the mod and USB charge, or remove them to put them in a charger ? ...and if so, do I need to keep them in the same order as they are in the mod: same one on the right, same one on the left?
 

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Not totally sure what you mean - do I leave them in the mod and USB charge, or remove them to put them in a charger ? ...and if so, do I need to keep them in the same order as they are in the mod: same one on the right, same one on the left?

Okay, until you get the charger, just use the USB, but I would swap them around every time they get past the halfway mark on the indicator.

Once you have the charger, you remove the batteries, put them in the charger and when you put them back, insert them in the opposite order, so that if one battery is getting depleted quicker, then you are halving that problem by swapping the batteries around, otherwise you will end up with 1 dead battery and 1 fairly good battery in say 12 months time.
 
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Okay, until you get the charger, just use the USB, but I would swap them around every time they get past the halfway mark on the indicator.

Once you have the charger, you remove the batteries, put them in the charger and when you put them back, insert them in the opposite order, so that if one battery is getting depleted quicker, then you are halving that problem by swapping the batteries around, otherwise you will end up with 1 dead battery and 1 fairly good battery in say 12 months time.
OK, that makes sense! Thanks :) Didn't realise the batteries could last that long!

They don't have to be drained before re-charging do they?
 
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OK, that makes sense! Thanks :) Didn't realise the batteries could last that long!

They don't have to be drained before re-charging do they?
I've still got some in use that I bought when I first started vaping, they don't get used as much these days as I don't have too many mods that use the lower power ones, and I notice sometimes that they don't last as long, but even some of my high power ones, the VTC5s must easily be getting on for a year or more now and still going strong. (with mechanical mods you needed a multimeter to check the batteries had not fallen below 3.2v, although they can recover as low as 2.8v), these days the mods will cut off at about 3.4 - 3.2v so no need to worry too much, but it is better to recharge earlier if possible.

Lithium batteries should never be drained it will kill them, once they get into the final quarter on the mod indicator, then it's best to remove them, but the mod should tell you when they have reached their limit, flashing up low power
 

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Well I'm rather impressed some of my items said "ships in 7 business days" which was supposed to be on the 27'th. Got an email today with my tracking number and it's already shipped!
Sometimes you get nice surprises, other times, they go into restocking and you can wait for ages :laugh:

EDIT: coming via NordPost (Sweden if I remember) so tracking will not show much for about 5 working days, when it finally shows left Malmo, then you know it is on it's way to Canada
 

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I've still got some in use that I bought when I first started vaping, they don't get used as much these days as I don't have too many mods that use the lower power ones, and I notice sometimes that they don't last as long, but even some of my high power ones, the VTC5s must easily be getting on for a year or more now and still going strong. (with mechanical mods you needed a multimeter to check the batteries had not fallen below 3.2v, although they can recover as low as 2.8v), these days the mods will cut off at about 3.4 - 3.2v so no need to worry too much, but it is better to recharge earlier if possible.

Lithium batteries should never be drained it will kill them, once they get into the final quarter on the mod indicator, then it's best to remove them, but the mod should tell you when they have reached their limit, flashing up low power

I was going to put the iStick 100W away for 'darker days' if they should come, but I like it ..like the time it lasts with a charge!
Wouldn't use it anywhere but here at my workbenches/desk, but that's where they get used most anyway :laugh:

I'm very fond of the Sigelei mini too for some reason.
Nothing wrong with it, but I may put the Cloupor mini & Subox away. I don't need to keep them all in use ...too many, and the family of iSticks, CoolFires and Sigelei will be more than enough :D

Think I'll get another 100W iStick seeing I have a FT $10 points voucher to use - unless there's another sensibly priced 'must have' in the offing.

....and, I ordered a D2 charger! :rolleyes: ;)
 

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TBH I think it is necessary if you are now playing with dual battery mods, as a lot of them do not balance charge as they should, and dual batteries should be married together from new and charged together, once you part a married pair then they should only be used in single battery mods.


You know I've been a technologist for 25 years and I've never ever heard about this issue with marrying batteries. Not in tech or RC hobby or anything else.

I'm really curious as to the science behind it. Do you have any idea where I can find the source of information explaining why in a regulated mod this would matter at all?

I could maybe understand if you're running a dual battery mech mod.
Mfinally there are ways to smart drain batteries and I'd be shocked if you couldn't get two close enough to 0 to marry them again anyway. But in a regulated mod from a big manufacturer like evolv I just can't see this mattering. Though due to a lack of research i do adhere to it at present.

THanks for the svoemesto email. I'll reach out to them. I doubt highly anyone in Phoenix sells.

It's been over 46C the last few weeks here with an overnight low of 30C. I tend to Internet shop through summer anyway. Id make the trip if there was anyone selling any authentic a around me. Unfortunately the shops here are more focused on charging $10 for a few strips of cotton and $23 for a 15ml bottle of Eliquid.


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Sometimes you get nice surprises, other times, they go into restocking and you can wait for ages :laugh:

EDIT: coming via NordPost (Sweden if I remember) so tracking will not show much for about 5 working days, when it finally shows left Malmo, then you know it is on it's way to Canada
Yes I'm fortunate that I got lucky on my first time order. Next time I will take your advice and make separate orders for the items not in stock.

Thanks for the tip about the shipping I won't worry too much now if I can't see my tracking.
 

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I was going to put the iStick 100W away for 'darker days' if they should come, but I like it ..like the time it lasts with a charge!
Wouldn't use it anywhere but here at my workbenches/desk, but that's where they get used most anyway :laugh:

I'm very fond of the Sigelei mini too for some reason.
Nothing wrong with it, but I may put the Cloupor mini & Subox away. I don't need to keep them all in use ...too many, and the family of iSticks, CoolFires and Sigelei will be more than enough :D

Think I'll get another 100W iStick seeing I have a FT $10 points voucher to use - unless there's another sensibly priced 'must have' in the offing.

....and, I ordered a D2 charger! :rolleyes: ;)

I'm in the same situation retiring devices. I almost got the sig temp control unit. The smaller one. Is that the one you have?

How does the fasttech points system work? So many points per purchase? I've bought a lot of stuff there but never paid attention to points. Is there a page to visit for redemption of points?

Lately fasttech shipments have slowed down again it was taking s few weeks when I rudest started. Brown it went down to 7-9 days. Back to a couple weeks now.

The d2 is fantastic! You'll find it so much more convenient I think.



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@h00ligan Most hobbyists and RC use LiPo 2s & 3s which are 2 or 3 cells in series, and use a special balance charger to charge them, I have one for my Darwin Mods squonker which has a 2s LiPo.

If the mod is made by an expert then anything that uses 2 batteries in parallel should in theory drain both batteries equally at the same time, unfortunately that is not always the case, and quite often one battery will become depleted before the other triggering the mod to say low power, you then take them out, put them in a charger to find that one battery still has quite a bit of power in it. That is why it is advisable to marry them, and swap them around each time you use them, some people think that is not necessary.

Now with batteries in series the first battery always gets used first with the second one topping up the first as it depletes, if my understanding is correct, therefore both batteries should be the same when mod says low power. All the forums I have been on state that the batteries must be married and should be swapped around each time you use them, so that each battery has a fair share at being the primary battery.

Myself, I prefer to keep any dual batteries together and swap them, that way I do not have to worry about whether the mod is parallel or series and would advise anyone to do the same, apart from the one parallel mod I mentioned before when I had the 1 battery empty 1 battery 3/4 full problem which cured itself after the first recharge/swap, I have never had any problems using my preferred method.

I have also noted in the forums that they say that if you split a married pair then they should only be used a a single battery afterwards.

We had a high of about 29C today, but think your heat is probably drier than ours, we tend to swelter, steam and sweat and most homes don't have full aircon, SM might not have anywhere close to you, but they probably have a few resellers in the states that could sell to you over the Internet and that way you would know they were genuine and save on the shipping from Germany.
 

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@h00ligan Most hobbyists and RC use LiPo 2s & 3s which are 2 or 3 cells in series, and use a special balance charger to charge them, I have one for my Darwin Mods squonker which has a 2s LiPo.

We had a high of about 29C today, but think your heat is probably drier than ours, we tend to swelter, steam and sweat and most homes don't have full aircon, SM might not have anywhere close to you, but they probably have a few resellers in the states that could sell to you over the Internet and that way you would know they were genuine and save on the shipping from Germany.

True for RC and lipo. I'd forgotten about that. I still wonder how much of this is a trend that someone said on the Internet and it just became a "rule" I just can't see a yihi 350 chip not having proper balanced charging for example. I did end up getting four vtc5 batteries. I have some singles I never use anymore I may drain them as low as I can safely go and then charge and try them in my boxer mod to see the impact.

Yes it's a dry heat. However so is the oven. I wouldn't want to live their either. The biggest issue is that it never stops. For four months it's 30-45 every day. We get some humidity up to 40% during monsoon seasons. I've lived in NYC FIR 7 years n I'd take their humidity over the summer here every time. Because it doesn't last. It always breaks. We get the opposite seasonal affective disorder here. Where it's just so hot all you do is sit hoke or go to a movie. This summer has been relatively mild. Until a few weeks ago. We usually consider Halloween to be the first time it begins to get comfortable. And the discomfort starts around mid June.

My small dog however loves for the heat. We think she's solar powered.

Personally I can't wait to get out of here and but for the back and brain I would have been back to Manhattan years ago.

The Internet sales. Vapinart is an authorized reseller. Their parts kit can't have been authentic though. If they'd just talk to me about it is feel much better. I'll probably ring them Monday but they rarely seem open.


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I just can't see a yihi 350 chip not having proper balanced charging for example.
I think most of those type of mods have a separate USB charging board, which is connected to pins on the main board, but those are normally single cell mods, all of the dual series mods like the Cloupor T8, T6 & the IPV4, that I have come across do not allow USB charging but only for Firmware upgrades. Although the new Vaporshark Vaporflask DNA40 which uses parallel batteries does allow USB charging, but I still prefer to remove the batteries and put them in a proper charger, I even do it with most of my single cell mods, unless the back is screwed on and a pita to remove.

Must admit I would hate to live somewhere that is too hot like that, glad your pooch loves it though, my cat prefers the heat as well, mind you not sure I would like Manhatten either, they have some nasty weather in Winter, suppose you could always move south in Winter and back north in Summer to try and get the best of both worlds.
 
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