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[Pictor]

The independent state of London petition now has a 100,000 signatures

Lovely! ...and how ridiculously stupid! ...you got a big hole saw & some brackets George? we can graft em onto Scotland and set the lot adrift in the channel! (We'll keep Bob of course! )

 

[e-pipeman]

It's the usual reaction when bad losers lose. All sound and fury signifying nothing. We have all made the right choice and should be very proud of ourselves - as indeed our ancestors would be if they could see what we have achieved.

 

[Pictor]

It's the usual reaction when bad losers lose. All sound and fury signifying nothing. We have all made the right choice and should be very proud of ourselves - as indeed our ancestors would be if they could see what we have achieved.

Thanks for that! - Yes, I am proud of voting for the 'brave new world', and do not feel we made a bad choice - not expecting a bed of roses by a long way, but in time to come, we could have a great country again, and we feel it's worth making the effort.
I think you may be right about our ancestors - my parents were very proud of the resilience of this country, and instilled that pride in me too. I know for a fact that my grandparents suffered immense loss in the name of Great Britain.
You make me realise that I've a renewed sense of pride in this country, and I sincerely hope that the same sense of pride can instil itself in the majority of the country.

I've never witnessed anything so disgraceful - they're rude, arrogant and insulting.
They imply that we who voted for 'out' don't understand what we voted for, that those over 60 shouldn't be included in the vote, and that they don't agree with the result ...how can they say that - it's the result of a fair and honest vote. They try to belittle us and insult our intelligence.
I've even heard two young university people saying that we've turned our backs on foreign people! Strikes me that they needed to teach young people what the vote was all about before they let them loose in a polling booth!

I must make it clear that my quips about Scotland are merely more frustration with it all - love Scotland and have some roots there too.
It's Ms Sturgeon and her demands that I don't like ..one bit!

 

[Brynglas]

It's Ms Sturgeon and her demands that I don't like ..one bit!

I see on the BBC news this evening that Scotland are already in talks with the EU.

I suppose if they gain Independence they will need a security blanket and a currency.
Like Trish i don't want to appear anti Scot,but i've always seen them as part of the union.

 

[e-pipeman]

I agree that we are not anti-Scot - but many Scots are sadly very openly anti-English. This can make the English slightly suspicious of the Scots imho.

But Brexit goes beyond petty internal boundaries. All parties and countries in the UK now have to work together in our common interest to extricate ourselves from the EU on favourable terms.

 

[Pictor]

I see on the BBC news this evening that Scotland are already in talks with the EU.

I suppose if they gain Independence they will need a security blanket and a currency.

She doesn't even stop to think - she just dives in and demands. I remember her antics at the last General election trying to bully those standing for government!
When they had their referendum, they assumed that they could have the £ as independent from England - No! So then they assumed that they could rely on using the € - No! Then the result of their referendum put paid to the ambitious plan altogether - and if she doesn't get something firmly in place before any second referendum, they won't vote to leave ...again.

Like Trish i don't want to appear anti Scot,but i've always seen them as part of the union.

We've grown up with Scotland, Wales & Ireland as part of us, so the notion that Scotland would want to go it alone is an alien thought for me - despite her, it still feels disappointing.

I agree that we are not anti-Scot - but many Scots are sadly very openly anti-English. This can make the English slightly suspicious of the Scots imho.

But Brexit goes beyond petty internal boundaries. All parties and countries in the UK now have to work together in our common interest to extricate ourselves from the EU on favourable terms.

True, Scotland doesn't always have good will towards us. I'm more used to the West coast and the people there, and have always got on well with them. Yes, I have Scottish roots, and my ancestors are on the war memorial in Oban, but even before they knew that, we were welcomed there very warmly. (I was working with a gallery there for some years).
We've both always had a warm welcome in other parts of the West of Scotland and around the Stirling area.
Perhaps other parts of Scotland can be less welcoming, and thus cause reciprocal feelings from us.

Great pity that we can't all work together on what is happening right now - we don't need all this disruption from Sturgeon at this time.

 

[Pictor]

Hilary Benn sacked by Corbyn following reports of a coup to oust the Labour leader.

We're living in strange times!

 

[Bobw1951]

....do we get rid of him too in this deal!

No but the new PM could back bench him and put someone else in as Chancellor

As for the silly beggars wanting another vote I think Dave said before the vote "It's a Referendum not a Neverendum" - I'm also pi**ed off about the moving Goalposts and London Independence idiots, they should be shot down in flames, I also see that the Fish is now sprouting for Independence too, hope they get it and the EU tells them to F O when they try to join

I really don't get Labour, they elect Corbyn and he doesn't appear to know what to do, really think it is about time to re-write British Law, bring in a proper constitution so that we all know where we stand and also proportional representation so that we can get decent people in Parliament instead of the rogues we normally have in top jobs that don't know what they are doing.

 

[Brynglas]

hope they get it and the EU tells them to F O when they try to join

 

[e-pipeman]

It was a UK referendum. Scotland has chosen to be part of the UK. They cannot negotiate with the EU on their own - they are part of the UK. If they leave the UK they are just like any would-be accession state and will have to accept the Euro and free movement of people. The reality is that Sturgeon has put Scottish Independence 2 on the table. I think that she will have to dust it off every month or so, as it will sit there for a long time.

 

[Brynglas]

See the French are taking the chance to put the boot into the Rosbif this morning aswell.

 

[Pictor]

No but the new PM could back bench him and put someone else in as Chancellor

...as they likely would, yes.
Looks like he's dropped off the planet right now!

As for the silly beggars wanting another vote I think Dave said before the vote "It's a Referendum not a Neverendum" - I'm also pi**ed off about the moving Goalposts and London Independence idiots, they should be shot down in flames, I also see that the Fish is now sprouting for Independence too, hope they get it and the EU tells them to F O when they try to join

It's really annoying me - I do think Cameron should have done the official 'UK is leaving' thing with Brussels and then left the negotiations to a new PM - he's just dropped the ball and walked off, and that's no way for a PM to behave. I'd like to think tomorrow sees him being more involved and starting to get things moving! At the very least, he needs to make things quite clear, both to Brussels, us and those that seek to overturn our fair and honest win.

Sturgeon says now that she's wanting to veto our out vote! ....that lady (loose description) is putting herself in a strange position.

I really don't get Labour, they elect Corbyn and he doesn't appear to know what to do, really think it is about time to re-write British Law, bring in a proper constitution so that we all know where we stand and also proportional representation so that we can get decent people in Parliament instead of the rogues we normally have in top jobs that don't know what they are doing.

Labour has been fragmented ever since they took on Corbyn - they need to sort themselves out and get some stronger leadership before they fall apart at the seams. Too many 'jobs for the boys' rather than for the people.

It was a UK referendum. Scotland has chosen to be part of the UK. They cannot negotiate with the EU on their own - they are part of the UK. If they leave the UK they are just like any would-be accession state and will have to accept the Euro and free movement of people. The reality is that Sturgeon has put Scottish Independence 2 on the table. I think that she will have to dust it off every month or so, as it will sit there for a long time.

I sincerely hope she doesn't get her way - she just doesn't deserve to. Her attitude is not what British politics is used to.

See the French are taking the chance to put the boot into the Rosbif this morning aswell.

In what way - I've not seen that?

 

[Brynglas]

In what way - I've not seen that?

The Mayor of Calais, is asking the French government to refuse us any access to deal with migrants.

 

[Brynglas]

Sturgeon says now that she's wanting to veto our out vote! ....

I dislike her more each day.

 

[Pictor]

The Mayor of Calais, is asking the French government to refuse us any access to deal with migrants.

What a stupid man! What good does he think that will do? - idiot.

I dislike her more each day.

We never liked her - far too bombastic with delusions of being more powerful throughout the whole country than she'll ever be. I dislike her intensely.

 

[Brynglas]

What a stupid man! What good does he think that will do? - idiot.

I expect more of it Trish, they think how dare we leave the EU.

 

[Pictor]

I expect more of it Trish, they think how dare we leave the EU.

We didn't need our PM to just leave things dangling in thin air over what has felt like a long drawn out weekend. We need reassurance and positive action.

Once they get things moving, perhaps dissenters - both here and afar - will shut up!
Let's hope tomorrow brings about the start of some action.

 

[Brynglas]

We never liked her

What? Not even when she used to be FANDABBYDOSEY.....

 

[e-pipeman]

She used to look like a Wookie - but then the "image" boys got to her.

There was bound to be a bit of dust kicked up over this decision. Fortunately there are more reasonable counsels (notably in Germany) whose voices will prevail over time. People keep saying that terrible things have happened to the Stock Market, but in fact they haven't. Things are settling down again already. The pound falling is wholly due to the usual betting that goes on by speculators when such a decision is in the offing. This, too, will right itself. Currency fluctuation isn't news - it is business as usual. The wailing from Main Stream Media is because, as part of the liberal elite, they have received a big kick in a delicate area.

 

[Brynglas]

- but then the "image" boys got to her.

They need sacking Pipe.