Sorry, I should have been more specific; I don't put the INW CC TA in the dry category either.
I was pointing my finger more towards the HS Cuban types I listed.
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Sorry, I should have been more specific; I don't put the INW CC TA in the dry category either.
I was pointing my finger more towards the HS Cuban types I listed.
Sorry mech I didn't get back here. It's been brutal since FDA dropped the bomp.
Right now my weapon of choice is 25AWG. I'd been using a lot of thin-wire twisted's and parallels. But this gauge gets the job done for me from .3-.8Ω (with 24 or 26 gauge for minor adjustments). Single or multi-coil, it's about coverage area. Whatever gauge and Ø combo give me the greatest flow for the device and wattage range I'm shooting for. Air is no problem with most devices today but I have to run wide open with the density of t.m.c.'s. These days for tab's generally run 17-25W, tightly 19-22W. For the latter tight range I love parallels. For the wide, 1x strand and twisted's which I can push to higher watt's if/as needed.
Parallels need to be built to target, even precision winds, as they're more apt to warp when pushed. And I guess that's the answer to the thin wire question. The greater surface area of thin-wire quads, particularly verticals (which I happen to have running, 454's and CEO's) can deliver some outstanding flavor. If too cool, not enough production it's too much flow. This won't help flavor. Check your thermal mW/mmw2 output's really there as you do wattage comp's. Easy to fool yourself on big winds with just the res. You need to look at it dimensionally and do the calc's (steam-engine's a great help).
Just dropped a post today on winding/oxidizing tensioned coils, a result which I think can rival that of alternative wiring schemes and TC. Again, the method can be used to stabilize the geometry and rigidity of spaced winds. You may not see as quick an oxidation result in pulse firing.
Well, back to the tests on that INA Cuban TA. It's excellent so far and I'm narrowing down to a preferred mix. Just got the Rustica and ECX TE absolute which I'd tried some time back. Lot of gear up. And it's madness with this deeming thing.
Good luck all.
So after buying a tester 15 ml bottle of 100mg/ml nic a while back and playing around I've come around to the idea of making my own juice. Much like making my own coils or using unregulated mods I guess I was making it out to be much more difficult than it actually is. I've been following this thread for a long time so I thought this would be the perfect place to ask.
What are some must have tobacco flavors and complimentary flavors that you would consider to be essential for an initial decently sized order? I love tobaccos and I've enjoyed NETs, TAs, synths, and hybrids so I'm pretty open to everything.
So essentially, if you were starting over from scratch what would be on your first orders?
Also, I'm not really interested in making my own NETs and such at this point until I get a little more experienced.
What are some must have tobacco flavors and complimentary flavors that you would consider to be essential for an initial decently sized order? I love tobaccos and I've enjoyed NETs, TAs, synths, and hybrids so I'm pretty open to everything.
So essentially, if you were starting over from scratch what would be on your first orders?
Also, I'm not really interested in making my own NETs and such at this point until I get a little more experienced.
Well, back to the tests on that INA Cuban TA. It's excellent so far and I'm narrowing down to a preferred mix. Just got the Rustica and ECX TE absolute which I'd tried some time back. Lot of gear up. And it's madness with this deeming thing.
Good luck all.
I bought the INA Cuban TA for one recipe that EdT586 posted here (copied below). Haven't used that TA in anything else just yet, but I should as this recipe is one of my favourite vapes now. I just finished my 3rd bottle of it so it's come to the point where I'll mix 100ml next time (thanks a lot to EdT586). Only thing is I dropped the flavouring amounts to drops instead of %s because I can't stand strong liquids. I work in %s with my Hangsen tobaccos and drops with the INA ones. I prefer using %s but I only recently started experimenting with lots of INA tobaccos, so a bit of a learning curve at the moment while I get used to using them. Thanks for your long and really informative post, I appreciate it loads and will do some reading and thinking before I reply to that part
Recently tried Inawera coffee tobacco 7drops in 5ml VG test batch ........ It's a clean dark coffee tobacco Vape even after 2days of mixing . Best n smooth coffee tobacco Vape I've ever Vaped [emoji108]
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I bought the INA Cuban TA for one recipe that EdT586 posted here (copied below). Haven't used that TA in anything else just yet, but I should as this recipe is one of my favourite vapes now. I just finished my 3rd bottle of it so it's come to the point where I'll mix 100ml next time (thanks a lot to EdT586). Only thing is I dropped the flavouring amounts to drops instead of %s because I can't stand strong liquids. I work in %s with my Hangsen tobaccos and drops with the INA ones. I prefer using %s but I only recently started experimenting with lots of INA tobaccos, so a bit of a learning curve at the moment while I get used to using them. Thanks for your long and really informative post, I appreciate it loads and will do some reading and thinking before I reply to that part
I'm kinda of the same view (@EdT586), to use Cuban in combo with some dark tab's. And I'm using the basic framework of FA CS and Virginia to test a variety of dark tabs. With you on that TA. Sad as I've sampled some beautiful NET's that might disappear. I'd like to fashion an all-day alt to the analog with a strong cuban emphasis. Def have a predilection for Virginia blends. The other a convincing but not too spicy or robust Cuban leaf cigar recipe. Those two would make a reserve I could live with. That's kind of been my thinking since I started dabbling and have used FA mostly considering the political climate towards vaping all along. Now INA's interested me as being another likely to remain accessible if things go really stupid. It would seem the timetable's been stepped up and I'm glad those instincts got me started on this thread. Good luck mech.
Great thread! After 3 years of paying out the nose for premium premix juice, for the first time I actually taste tobacco, LOL. I recently tried Mt Baker USA Tobacco, thought I liked it, so purchased the 236ml bottle. Realized I didn't like it and found this thread, and others. Having a large bottle of this on hand (didn't want to waste the $) I purchased some unflavored base and the following
10 drops Inawera Garuda/20 drops Hangsen Virginia Tobacco in 10ml base
I put 12 drops of this in a 20ml bottle of 50% Mt Baker USA Tobacco/50% Unflavored base. Since my solution in the Unflavored base alone without the Mt Baker USA Tobacco isn't strong enough, I'm thinking instead of making it stronger with these two ingredients, it's needs something more to get a reg classic analog flavor. Any suggestions? I'm gonna try stronger but I have a feeling it's gonna be missing something.
10 drops Inawera Garuda/20 drops Hangsen Virginia Tobacco in 10ml base
I put 12 drops of this in a 20ml bottle of 50% Mt Baker USA Tobacco/50% Unflavored base. Since my solution in the Unflavored base alone without the Mt Baker USA Tobacco isn't strong enough, I'm thinking instead of making it stronger with these two ingredients, it's needs something more to get a reg classic analog flavor. Any suggestions? I'm gonna try stronger but I have a feeling it's gonna be missing something.
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If you like an ashy taste, you can try Red USA from HS. Or else you could add some tobacco absolute.
I would suggest pulling 10ml from the MBV tobacco into 2 separate bottles. In one of the bottles add 1 or 2 drops per ml of INW DNB (dirty neutral base) and in the other add 2% Real Cig SC. Both available from BullCityVapor. Each of those those will get you a pretty smoky cigarette type vape.
With Inawera be careful with adding too much, the flavor stagnates after a certain point that it does not taste any stronger, but your coil will start gunking.
Thanks everyone for your suggestions.
"Tobacco Absolute Garuda WG-INW"
In reading these threads I've seen the suggestion to use a TA with what I think is already a TA. Is TA used loosely for non-TA's and there's products that are actual TA's?
Glad you said this, it's something that confuses me. In my 'Order Details' Inawera Garuda is called a TA.
"Tobacco Absolute Garuda WG-INW"
In reading these threads I've seen the suggestion to use a TA with what I think is already a TA. Is TA used loosely for non-TA's and there's products that are actual TA's?
Don't see why you couldn't combine TA's from different leaf or blended source. I took it to mean the common regular absolute that's offered. Let's see. Good question.
Good luck.
Until Inawera came along, we only had two types of TA, namely Nicotainia Tabacum and Nicotainia Rustica. The former was typically derived from Virginia leaves and the latter from Mapacho leaves, an exotic variety. But you are right, the term is used loosely these days to include extracts from several other varieties of leaves. And when you think of it, anything extracted from natural tobacco leaves is really a TA. The only difference is, some are more concentrated than others.
You can consider DNB for example to be a TA because according to it's description, it is made from leaves.
Thx Ex. For a minute there was thinkin' I was missin' out on somethin'!
Come to think of it Mac, any of Hangsen's tobacco flavors can also be considered an "Absolute." They are actually extracted from tobacco leaves. Hangsen calls them "essence" I think ...
To be honest, it get's hard to tell. LOL But I'll be getting back to you, fer sure!
Good luck.p.s. I just got a rude awakening about M-type which I'd just used very sparingly. Blew off a 100ml batch with my small TA % values. Totally sublimated every flavor. Thought I'd gotten spontaneous vaper tongue.
It must take some special kind of wits to use that stuff. Beyond me.
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Oh and, yes, do try it. Vaping it as I tap this and it's sooooooo good. Tastes vary, and this gunk coils a bit faster than some, but I don't think you'll be disappointed. And if ya don't like it, trade it to me
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