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I have quite a few tobaccos that I tried out, some made my favorites list while most were just another tobacco. I also have quite a lot of flavors to add to the tobacco flavors and as you mentioned you can mix tobaccos together. The whole thing goes to personal taste, I'd go with adding burley, Virginia and Turkish.
 
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Could be just me, on mixing 150ml of Dark for PIPE at 6% for weekly use using v/g only, by the 5th day the flavour is really muted,so been adding 1drop of absolute to 20ml pre made mix to get something out of it,
any other user having this problem, or is my taste buds shot.
6 percent seems high to me. Overflavored?

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Temp and wattage you are using? I loke tobacco flavors and, use them in most of my mixes - too hot, too high a wattage and the tobacco nuances vanish, go even hotter and, it actually tastes like burning tobacco - YUCK! try colling it ot lowering the watts a bit.
 

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Could be just me, on mixing 150ml of Dark for PIPE at 6% for weekly use using v/g only, by the 5th day the flavour is really muted,so been adding 1drop of absolute to 20ml pre made mix to get something out of it,
any other user having this problem, or is my taste buds shot.

6% is way too much. I mix it at 3% and it's perfect.


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I have quite a few tobaccos that I tried out, some made my favorites list while most were just another tobacco. I also have quite a lot of flavors to add to the tobacco flavors and as you mentioned you can mix tobaccos together. The whole thing goes to personal taste, I'd go with adding burley, Virginia and Turkish.

So what's on your favorites list and which Virginia, burley, and Turkish do you prefer? It seems most companies have at least one version of each.

I do realize a lot of it is personal taste but I'm just trying to hedge my bets a little and to get my feet wet. I'm fairly experienced with DIY and premade tobacco juices(NETs, synths, and TA's) but I know DIYing tobaccos are a whole different ball game but despite reading most of this thread, Natural Tobaccos Part Deux, and other threads on the subject I'm still pretty unsure of what should be on my first order aside from the few that I've seen brought up a lot and mentioned earlier.

I'm sure there are some that most people agree are pretty good and some that most people agree are pretty lackluster or downright awful(though I'm sure there will be a few that love the ones most hate.) I just need somewhere to start really and don't want to end up making an easily avoidable mistake and ordering stuff that most people don't like nor can I really afford to order one of everything or get 10 different RY4s for example so I can find the best one and end up with a bunch of concentrates just sitting in a box or even ordering a bunch of stuff that is very similar when I can just ask those with a lot more experience.

With non-tobaccos it seemed to be a lot easier starting out. There are tons of guides and threads and stuff about what's generally considered the best creams or strawberry for example and which flavors are generally recommended for first time buyers. With tobacco flavorings there doesn't seem to be anything like that or at least not that I could find.
 

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So what's on your favorites list and which Virginia, burley, and Turkish do you prefer? It seems most companies have at least one version of each.

I do realize a lot of it is personal taste but I'm just trying to hedge my bets a little and to get my feet wet. I'm fairly experienced with DIY and premade tobacco juices(NETs, synths, and TA's) but I know DIYing tobaccos are a whole different ball game but despite reading most of this thread, Natural Tobaccos Part Deux, and other threads on the subject I'm still pretty unsure of what should be on my first order aside from the few that I've seen brought up a lot and mentioned earlier.

I'm sure there are some that most people agree are pretty good and some that most people agree are pretty lackluster or downright awful(though I'm sure there will be a few that love the ones most hate.) I just need somewhere to start really and don't want to end up making an easily avoidable mistake and ordering stuff that most people don't like nor can I really afford to order one of everything or get 10 different RY4s for example so I can find the best one and end up with a bunch of concentrates just sitting in a box or even ordering a bunch of stuff that is very similar when I can just ask those with a lot more experience.

With non-tobaccos it seemed to be a lot easier starting out. There are tons of guides and threads and stuff about what's generally considered the best creams or strawberry for example and which flavors are generally recommended for first time buyers. With tobacco flavorings there doesn't seem to be anything like that or at least not that I could find.
There no easy journey to find your flavour,myself having grown 10 tobacco varieties 5year barn cured, then the usual filter steeping process no joy there, most of the tobacco concentrates no joy there, all i'm after is Gitanes
cigarette flavour seems impossible, but we keep trying.
 

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Temp and wattage you are using? I loke tobacco flavors and, use them in most of my mixes - too hot, too high a wattage and the tobacco nuances vanish, go even hotter and, it actually tastes like burning tobacco - YUCK! try colling it ot lowering the watts a bit.
Don't think thats the problem i'm at 0.7ohm 3.2v, it's the juice quite gunky,may be i need lower ohms high voltage.
 

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I put together a list of tobaccos I use, Turkish by Flavors Express, the strongest tobacco flavor I've found, Virginia by Inawera, good tobacco flavor I use quite a bit of it, Cavendish by Inawera, nice tobacco flavor differs a little form the others, Gold Ducat by Inawera, They added something to make it different, Delux Tobacco by Hangsen, I haven't used that much of it but I remember it, Desert Voyager by Inawera, Seems like it would blend well with other tobaccos, Perique black, by Flavor art, I remember it having a very smoky taste again something to add at another tobacco.
I have another list of flavors to use as additives to the tobaccos, honey seems to be the best sweetener. I haven't done much with this yet. I did notice that Cinnamon candy gives me the same throat feeling that smoking my pipe gives which sounds interesting.
 
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Don't think thats the problem i'm at 0.7ohm 3.2v, it's the juice quite gunky,may be i need lower ohms high voltage.

Voltage is not the same as wattage. Are you using a sub ohm coil on a non variable wattage device? If so that is the problem. You need wattage with sub ohm. If you cannot set thew WATTS not volts to at least 30, then you need either a better device or, higher resistance coils. (coils over 1 ohm resistance.)
 
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Having been up & down on %, 6% is for me
Well I think you'll have to expect short coil life on that. Honestly, Dark gunk mine pretty quickly at 3.3%, so I imagine that 6% will really gunk quickly.

I also went through a period where I just burned out on the flavor. Set it aside a couple of months then came back to it.

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I just look up starting percentages with an ECF search and the comments on the vendor site where I order and start there. If it's too highly flavored I add unflavored mix. If it's weak I add more flavor in half to one percent amounts.

The key is to keep records on your final mix % so you can recreate it later. Let it steep appropriately and retest.
 
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Voltage is not the same as wattage. Are you using a sub ohm coil on a non variable wattage device? If so that is the problem. You need wattage with sub ohm. If you cannot set thew WATTS not volts to at least 30, then you need either a better device or, higher resistance coils. (coils over 1 ohm resistance.)

FWIW ...

Wattage settings are easy because the mod automatically takes resistance into account to set voltage for a given resistance to achieve the wattage setting we dial in. It's all interrelated and the vape is no different with variable voltage or variable wattage. What counts is the correct voltage across a given resistance.

My "subohm" coil is .83 ohms at 10 watts. That's 2.88v. Sometimes, I add a wrap or two and go lower. The mod automatically lowers the voltage a little when I do that.

Power = voltage^2/Resistance
 
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So what's on your favorites list and which Virginia, burley, and Turkish do you prefer? It seems most companies have at least one version of each.

I do realize a lot of it is personal taste but I'm just trying to hedge my bets a little and to get my feet wet. I'm fairly experienced with DIY and premade tobacco juices(NETs, synths, and TA's) but I know DIYing tobaccos are a whole different ball game but despite reading most of this thread, Natural Tobaccos Part Deux, and other threads on the subject I'm still pretty unsure of what should be on my first order aside from the few that I've seen brought up a lot and mentioned earlier.

I'm sure there are some that most people agree are pretty good and some that most people agree are pretty lackluster or downright awful(though I'm sure there will be a few that love the ones most hate.) I just need somewhere to start really and don't want to end up making an easily avoidable mistake and ordering stuff that most people don't like nor can I really afford to order one of everything or get 10 different RY4s for example so I can find the best one and end up with a bunch of concentrates just sitting in a box or even ordering a bunch of stuff that is very similar when I can just ask those with a lot more experience.

With non-tobaccos it seemed to be a lot easier starting out. There are tons of guides and threads and stuff about what's generally considered the best creams or strawberry for example and which flavors are generally recommended for first time buyers. With tobacco flavorings there doesn't seem to be anything like that or at least not that I could find.

I'm partial to nutty flavors and Hangsen brand as far as tobacco can't be beat for authentic tobacco taste. Among the Hangsen tobacco line what hits the spot for me as far my passion for nutty tobaccos is the highway and No.5 tobaccos. That along with a little inawera chocolate and some home made dark American Virginia Net and I'm in vaping heaven.
 

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Woop, not tried No.5 danny will give ago, As for my dark for pipe muted taste, new set up for me being
24g 5 wraps on 3.5mm dia build 0.5 at 23w=3.4v flavours back, the minus is the clouds, partner is not impressed,banished to outside vaping lol,have noticed with the large diameter spaced coil less gunk but only had a days use so far so will see.
 
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My favorite tobacco changes constantly as do other juices I vape. Same old Same old gets swapped out daily for something else. I like Hangsen Highway and Inawera 555 gold. Hangsen Tobacco is good, but only if there's a .25 or .5 percentage of FA Black Fire or Tobacco Absolute added.

FA Western or Purilum Sweet Tobacco are good if you want a change to something with a mild sweetness.

Lately, FA Cuban Supreme has been a good change for me. It's a light and tasty vape with subdued spices and a little touch of sweet tobacco. I'm thinking that it's going into my rotating daily vape list. After doing a 10ml test batch I did a 50ml bottle that's a week into steeping right now
absolute i like as a additive one drop to 20ml tobacco mix, not sure may have tried FA Black Fire, if the flavour is like a end of season barbecue then i have.
 
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absolute i like as a additive one drop to 20ml tobacco mix, not sure may have tried FA Black Fire, if the flavour is like a end of season barbecue then i have.

For me, FA Black Fire used in lower concentrations (like Tobacco Absolute) adds a faint woody note that resembles a plain tobacco something like a Red Marlboro, as opposed to Winston that has a sweet note.

It's different than Tobacco Absolute which adds a bolder nutty flavor.
 
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I used to think that Hangsen was the best for tobacco flavors but I see from looking over my list of favorite tobaccos that I have mostly Inawera. I also don't like the fact that where I buy flavors that Hangsen just says something like the best tobacco taste rather than a description while other manufactures will try to offer a description of the tobacco.
 
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